A page from the Jesus Seminar.
Better still, try this book from the same source: The FIve Gospels. I read it three (?) years ago, after being alerted to its existence by our own Mary Anne. Being a Jew, not burdened with the question of Divinity, I came away with a much deeper understanding of the difference between what Jesus probably did say, and what words were probably put in his mouth by later author/editors... as well as a philological history of the books themselves.
Stripped of the editorializing, the probable words of Jesus have a near Zen-like quality, and I also understand how he was able to attract followers, even if the miracle stories are merely stories.
The problem remains that, as far as I know, no contemporary records mention the man, the trial, or the execution. Absence of evidence is not always evidence of absence... and, also as far as I know, there are also no surviving writings from that period which deny the existence or acts of Jesus.*
In short, what historians classify as "primary sources" are missing from both sides of the question. The Gospels are anecdotal, despite protestations to the contrary.
[* - Rome did not act as Egypt did in earlier centuries -- ruthless campaigns to erase all knowledge of some persons -- so the lack of historical mention outside the Gospels cannot be attributed to such an effort by official policy. And, during the time of Jesus' life, and for a long while after, Rome was very tolerant of cults. The persecutions didn't start until later, when a scapegoat was deemed necessary. We Jews know all about that one...]
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- Oh screw the faucet..I will call a plumber...okay here I go.
- That seems better than "Oh, call a faucet..I will screw the plumber..." (n/t)
- "Sorry for the inconvienience" (n/t)
- My favorite god quote
- Perhaps...
- Duh!... (n/t)
- Well, Damn!
- Exactly
- Searching on that empty canvas
- Thanks!!!...I am going to try to tune in! (n/t)
- Did anyone catch the producers of "The Secret" on Oprah today? (n/t)
- Thanks!!!...I am going to try to tune in! (n/t)
- I guess that about Psalms it up for me (n/t)
- Nice.:) (n/t)
- I grok your meaning
- Personally, I worship leisure time...
- and untroubled sleep. (n/t)
- re: Oh screw the faucet..I will call a plumber...okay here I go.
- re: Oh screw the faucet..I will call a plumber...okay here I go.
- re: Oh screw the faucet..I will call a plumber...okay here I go.
- Before I continue reading these posts, I would like to latch on.
- Last post til after dinner.
- On the subject of the soul, from Stings point of view.
- re: Last post til after dinner.
- ...and
- Try this
- They did leave out several gospels that did not agree quite so much, though. (n/t)
- ...and
- re: Oh screw the faucet..I will call a plumber...okay here I go.
- re: Oh screw the faucet..I will call a plumber...okay here I go.
- Old Europe
- I haven't a clue what you're talking about.
