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TB — 11/2/2015 3:45:16 AM (archived)

In 2016, about 20 percent of NASA's budget is going to climate-related studies, and of course, in the departments of NASA that specialize in it, the number is close to 100 percent.

Hundreds of billions around the world are flowing into scientific organizations and industries whose fiscal health now depends on climate change being a human-caused crisis.

This is a massive industry. It survives only as long as the AGW thesis holds up. And yet, everyone in that industry is seen as totally objective.

I suspect very little of that money flows to anyone who either believes that the warming in the period since the Little Ice Age isn't caused by human activity, or that the effects will not be disastrous. It's not too surprising that a pro-AGW consensus among climate scientists and others feeding at this trough is fairly easy to come by.

My point stands. If studies funded by oil companies are open to skepticism, then for the exact same reasons so are studies funded by governments and industries that stand to gain vast amounts of power and/or money from "fixing" the crisis.

Spend a little time at this site. Sorry, but "Follow the money" applies to everybody.

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Where to watch tonight's Republican debate? - Robert - 10/28/2015 7:32:34 PM
- Chart 4 IS table 3 - RL - 10/31/2015 4:08:20 AM
  - Ah it looks like you wisely deleted your post ... - RL - 10/31/2015 4:09:31 AM
    - That wasn't the intention - RobVG - 11/1/2015 7:51:12 PM
    - Getting a bit cocky, aren't we? - TB - 10/31/2015 6:02:58 PM
      - Cocky...? - RL - 11/1/2015 4:24:37 PM
        
        Go review a few months of this board. - TB - 11/1/2015 8:56:47 PM
      - Looks like we're all back for the next year of marathon election coverage - BuckGalaxy - 11/1/2015 7:23:05 AM
        
        Hah! Not me. I've got work to do. - TB - 11/1/2015 3:30:38 PM
        
        Buckle up, kiddies - Robert - 11/1/2015 4:17:44 PM
        
        Funny you should ask. - TB - 11/1/2015 9:22:26 PM
        
        wow - Robert - 11/2/2015 1:29:34 AM
        
        How does that support your claim? - RL - 11/2/2015 12:38:10 AM
        
        You don't have to yell. I'm right here. - TB - 11/2/2015 3:45:16 AM
        
        Ok, lets recap... - RL - 11/2/2015 11:16:48 PM
        
        The NASA study does not say that AGW is false. - TB - 11/3/2015 8:49:39 PM
        
        Keep dancing... - RL - 11/4/2015 12:41:30 AM
        
        Don't burn yourself out, RL - mcfly - 11/4/2015 4:43:26 PM
        
        I have dealt with folks paid to misinform... - RL - 11/5/2015 12:06:59 AM
        
        Not dancing. - TB - 11/4/2015 3:13:32 AM
        
        So the actual science doesn't matter to you... - RL - 11/4/2015 11:18:21 PM
        
        And the rest doesn't matter to you. - TB - 11/5/2015 3:36:21 AM
        
        The science- not the politics that has been manufactured- is all that matters - RL - 11/5/2015 10:51:56 PM
        
        By the way... - RL - 11/4/2015 2:32:24 AM
        
        3) Most everyone is clueless - SDAI-Tech - 11/3/2015 8:18:22 AM
        
        You can't have it both ways, Techie, your agenda is showing. - ER - 11/3/2015 1:45:49 PM
        
        Climate Change - SDAI-Tech - 11/4/2015 1:39:11 AM
        
        wow... - RL - 11/4/2015 2:28:35 AM
        
        Be my guest. - SDAI-Tech - 11/4/2015 2:48:27 AM
        
        There's a keeper...nice! - mcfly - 11/2/2015 1:31:06 AM
        
        Where's ER when you need him....n/t - RobVG - 11/1/2015 8:08:17 PM
        
        Working class hero. - hank - 11/1/2015 9:36:27 PM
        
        There you go, RL. A fresh example, made to order. - TB - 11/1/2015 9:52:00 PM
        
        I didn't order THAT... - RL - 11/2/2015 1:02:44 AM
        
        Believe me, that's been on the menu for a long time now. - TB - 11/2/2015 3:46:27 AM
      - "The Democrats are running a crook and a communist this year." - bowser - 11/1/2015 6:11:29 AM
- You've heard of youtube, right? - SDAI-Tech - 10/29/2015 11:10:35 AM
  - Please tell me more! - Robert - 10/29/2015 7:05:26 PM
    - Well... - SDAI-Tech - 10/30/2015 5:04:06 AM
      - Ewwww! You let your computer touch that thing? - Robert - 10/30/2015 4:39:46 PM
        
        I watched it live with no problems. - SDAI-Tech - 10/30/2015 10:53:50 PM
        
        As far as you know - Robert - 10/31/2015 3:05:17 AM
        
        Life always leads to death - SDAI-Tech - 10/31/2015 4:50:41 AM
        
        Perusing Past Problematic Prognostications - RL - 10/31/2015 4:07:03 PM
        
        Just to refresh your memories, Romney lost... - RL - 10/31/2015 4:13:52 PM
        
        Best to stretch out the journey as much as you can, then - Robert - 10/31/2015 5:53:19 AM
        
        If you want to use SDAI-tech's credit card to buy a CNBC subscription... - RL - 10/31/2015 3:37:50 AM
        
        Let's make a donation to Bernie. A large one, just to be ironic. - Robert - 10/31/2015 5:48:25 AM
        
        Use it for something better than that! - SDAI-Tech - 10/31/2015 4:54:08 AM
- Still shaking my head. - RobVG - 10/29/2015 6:27:14 AM
  - I watched it... - RL - 10/29/2015 10:27:59 PM
    - "WHY aren’t we doing THAT?!" - BuckGalaxy - 11/2/2015 3:07:46 AM
    - Well resoned n/t - RobVG - 10/29/2015 11:47:30 PM
  - High what? - Robert - 10/29/2015 7:14:16 PM
    - Would like to change witch hunt to "shooting gallery - RobVG - 10/29/2015 11:49:58 PM
    - Think what you wish, it was till a horrible forum and not the fault of the candidates. n/t - RobVG - 10/29/2015 11:45:20 PM
      - The panel - RL - 10/30/2015 10:29:14 PM
        
        minutiae n/t - RobVG - 10/31/2015 1:20:14 AM
        
        REALLY?! - RL - 10/31/2015 1:36:50 AM
        
        I might have to break down and get a Twitter account. - RobVG - 10/31/2015 2:18:29 AM
        
        You would be just as wrong on twitter- maybe more brief, but still wrong... - RL - 10/31/2015 3:22:53 AM
      - But the evening did have a clear winner - mcfly - 10/30/2015 9:04:50 PM
        
        Um, RNC pulled the NBC debate this evening. No beans to count. n/t - RobVG - 10/31/2015 1:14:19 AM
        
        Say, isn't Telemundo owned by NBC? - Robert - 10/31/2015 3:15:17 AM
        
        Can you imagine... - RL - 10/31/2015 3:42:47 AM
        
        I think you've achieved a level of paranoia adequate to our times - Robert - 10/31/2015 5:46:07 AM
        
        Doesn't address the matter at hand - mcfly - 10/31/2015 2:11:36 AM
      - Hey, why can't we edit title lines hmmmm? - RobVG - 10/29/2015 11:53:49 PM
        
        Title lines - TB - 10/30/2015 4:55:41 PM
        
        Isn't that funny... - RL - 10/30/2015 12:52:24 AM
  - One more witch hunt, more or less... - mcfly - 10/29/2015 6:07:42 PM
- I never took the "liberal media bias" seriously- untill tonight. n/t - RobVG - 10/29/2015 6:17:45 AM
  - Reasons for that. - bowser - 10/31/2015 12:44:07 AM
  - But the network wasn't motivated by "liberal media bias" - mcfly - 10/30/2015 9:27:57 PM
- Report from Boulder... - podrock - 10/29/2015 4:02:24 AM
- I don't think it matters much WHERE you watch it... - RL - 10/28/2015 10:07:45 PM
  - [snort] But I did get this screen capture of the idle stream - Robert - 10/28/2015 10:26:06 PM
    - Dang that's purdy... - mcfly - 10/29/2015 1:43:02 AM
- Wait for it - Robert - 10/28/2015 9:59:37 PM
- Ticket price - Robert - 10/28/2015 9:54:25 PM
  - About the same as a pro football game. - bowser - 10/29/2015 2:24:00 AM

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