So the actual science doesn't matter to you...

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So the actual science doesn't matter to you...

RL — 11/4/2015 11:18:21 PM (archived)

I don't see the $725 million that Murdoch paid for National Geographic there... But I am sure his acquisition of it wont change a thing...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/national-geographic-society-sets-biggest-layoff-in-its-history/2015/11/03/2966e1b4-8252-11e5-a7ca-6ab6ec20f839_story.html

I'm sorry, but if you honestly believe the scientists are either knowingly or unknowingly engaged in a conspiracy that vast then there just isn't a hell of a lot I can say. What you allege is as absurd as the the Moon hoax conspiracy theorists, and is just as plainly contradicted by the facts...

You are engaging in the same fallacy... you can never be shown that your beliefs are wrong because any data showing you to be wrong is obviously part of the conspiracy.

Yet - just as the moon hoax nuts use NASA pictures to find "evidence" they were faked, you have no problem cherry picking press releases from NASA to prove AGW is just a figment of their imagination....

The very people most qualified to speak on the subject overwhelmingly say you are wrong- but that doesn't matter because, by your assertion, the people with the most knowledge and research on the climate are ALSO the most Deluded and/or Corrupt.

Sorry TB, there is no way to argue against that brand of crazy- and I think if you are able to take a step back you have to realize how silly it is, because I do think you are fairly bright. But the science if pretty unambiguous on this- you are wrong, and I think on some level you realize this- because unlike long ago you are steering this away from the science at every turn.

All I can say is I have looked at the data and I agree with the conclusions of the scientists. I have nothing to gain from saying so- And quite frankly it is very offensive that you make such accusations against scientists and engineers that do their jobs extremely well. And it shows more than a little cognitive dissonance coming from someone who in all other areas seems to have respect for the work of scientists.

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Where to watch tonight's Republican debate? - Robert - 10/28/2015 7:32:34 PM
- Chart 4 IS table 3 - RL - 10/31/2015 4:08:20 AM
  - Ah it looks like you wisely deleted your post ... - RL - 10/31/2015 4:09:31 AM
    - That wasn't the intention - RobVG - 11/1/2015 7:51:12 PM
    - Getting a bit cocky, aren't we? - TB - 10/31/2015 6:02:58 PM
      - Cocky...? - RL - 11/1/2015 4:24:37 PM
        
        Go review a few months of this board. - TB - 11/1/2015 8:56:47 PM
      - Looks like we're all back for the next year of marathon election coverage - BuckGalaxy - 11/1/2015 7:23:05 AM
        
        Hah! Not me. I've got work to do. - TB - 11/1/2015 3:30:38 PM
        
        Buckle up, kiddies - Robert - 11/1/2015 4:17:44 PM
        
        Funny you should ask. - TB - 11/1/2015 9:22:26 PM
        
        wow - Robert - 11/2/2015 1:29:34 AM
        
        How does that support your claim? - RL - 11/2/2015 12:38:10 AM
        
        You don't have to yell. I'm right here. - TB - 11/2/2015 3:45:16 AM
        
        Ok, lets recap... - RL - 11/2/2015 11:16:48 PM
        
        The NASA study does not say that AGW is false. - TB - 11/3/2015 8:49:39 PM
        
        Keep dancing... - RL - 11/4/2015 12:41:30 AM
        
        Don't burn yourself out, RL - mcfly - 11/4/2015 4:43:26 PM
        
        I have dealt with folks paid to misinform... - RL - 11/5/2015 12:06:59 AM
        
        Not dancing. - TB - 11/4/2015 3:13:32 AM
        
        So the actual science doesn't matter to you... - RL - 11/4/2015 11:18:21 PM
        
        And the rest doesn't matter to you. - TB - 11/5/2015 3:36:21 AM
        
        The science- not the politics that has been manufactured- is all that matters - RL - 11/5/2015 10:51:56 PM
        
        By the way... - RL - 11/4/2015 2:32:24 AM
        
        3) Most everyone is clueless - SDAI-Tech - 11/3/2015 8:18:22 AM
        
        You can't have it both ways, Techie, your agenda is showing. - ER - 11/3/2015 1:45:49 PM
        
        Climate Change - SDAI-Tech - 11/4/2015 1:39:11 AM
        
        wow... - RL - 11/4/2015 2:28:35 AM
        
        Be my guest. - SDAI-Tech - 11/4/2015 2:48:27 AM
        
        There's a keeper...nice! - mcfly - 11/2/2015 1:31:06 AM
        
        Where's ER when you need him....n/t - RobVG - 11/1/2015 8:08:17 PM
        
        Working class hero. - hank - 11/1/2015 9:36:27 PM
        
        There you go, RL. A fresh example, made to order. - TB - 11/1/2015 9:52:00 PM
        
        I didn't order THAT... - RL - 11/2/2015 1:02:44 AM
        
        Believe me, that's been on the menu for a long time now. - TB - 11/2/2015 3:46:27 AM
      - "The Democrats are running a crook and a communist this year." - bowser - 11/1/2015 6:11:29 AM
- You've heard of youtube, right? - SDAI-Tech - 10/29/2015 11:10:35 AM
  - Please tell me more! - Robert - 10/29/2015 7:05:26 PM
    - Well... - SDAI-Tech - 10/30/2015 5:04:06 AM
      - Ewwww! You let your computer touch that thing? - Robert - 10/30/2015 4:39:46 PM
        
        I watched it live with no problems. - SDAI-Tech - 10/30/2015 10:53:50 PM
        
        As far as you know - Robert - 10/31/2015 3:05:17 AM
        
        Life always leads to death - SDAI-Tech - 10/31/2015 4:50:41 AM
        
        Perusing Past Problematic Prognostications - RL - 10/31/2015 4:07:03 PM
        
        Just to refresh your memories, Romney lost... - RL - 10/31/2015 4:13:52 PM
        
        Best to stretch out the journey as much as you can, then - Robert - 10/31/2015 5:53:19 AM
        
        If you want to use SDAI-tech's credit card to buy a CNBC subscription... - RL - 10/31/2015 3:37:50 AM
        
        Let's make a donation to Bernie. A large one, just to be ironic. - Robert - 10/31/2015 5:48:25 AM
        
        Use it for something better than that! - SDAI-Tech - 10/31/2015 4:54:08 AM
- Still shaking my head. - RobVG - 10/29/2015 6:27:14 AM
  - I watched it... - RL - 10/29/2015 10:27:59 PM
    - "WHY aren’t we doing THAT?!" - BuckGalaxy - 11/2/2015 3:07:46 AM
    - Well resoned n/t - RobVG - 10/29/2015 11:47:30 PM
  - High what? - Robert - 10/29/2015 7:14:16 PM
    - Would like to change witch hunt to "shooting gallery - RobVG - 10/29/2015 11:49:58 PM
    - Think what you wish, it was till a horrible forum and not the fault of the candidates. n/t - RobVG - 10/29/2015 11:45:20 PM
      - The panel - RL - 10/30/2015 10:29:14 PM
        
        minutiae n/t - RobVG - 10/31/2015 1:20:14 AM
        
        REALLY?! - RL - 10/31/2015 1:36:50 AM
        
        I might have to break down and get a Twitter account. - RobVG - 10/31/2015 2:18:29 AM
        
        You would be just as wrong on twitter- maybe more brief, but still wrong... - RL - 10/31/2015 3:22:53 AM
      - But the evening did have a clear winner - mcfly - 10/30/2015 9:04:50 PM
        
        Um, RNC pulled the NBC debate this evening. No beans to count. n/t - RobVG - 10/31/2015 1:14:19 AM
        
        Say, isn't Telemundo owned by NBC? - Robert - 10/31/2015 3:15:17 AM
        
        Can you imagine... - RL - 10/31/2015 3:42:47 AM
        
        I think you've achieved a level of paranoia adequate to our times - Robert - 10/31/2015 5:46:07 AM
        
        Doesn't address the matter at hand - mcfly - 10/31/2015 2:11:36 AM
      - Hey, why can't we edit title lines hmmmm? - RobVG - 10/29/2015 11:53:49 PM
        
        Title lines - TB - 10/30/2015 4:55:41 PM
        
        Isn't that funny... - RL - 10/30/2015 12:52:24 AM
  - One more witch hunt, more or less... - mcfly - 10/29/2015 6:07:42 PM
- I never took the "liberal media bias" seriously- untill tonight. n/t - RobVG - 10/29/2015 6:17:45 AM
  - Reasons for that. - bowser - 10/31/2015 12:44:07 AM
  - But the network wasn't motivated by "liberal media bias" - mcfly - 10/30/2015 9:27:57 PM
- Report from Boulder... - podrock - 10/29/2015 4:02:24 AM
- I don't think it matters much WHERE you watch it... - RL - 10/28/2015 10:07:45 PM
  - [snort] But I did get this screen capture of the idle stream - Robert - 10/28/2015 10:26:06 PM
    - Dang that's purdy... - mcfly - 10/29/2015 1:43:02 AM
- Wait for it - Robert - 10/28/2015 9:59:37 PM
- Ticket price - Robert - 10/28/2015 9:54:25 PM
  - About the same as a pro football game. - bowser - 10/29/2015 2:24:00 AM

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