And this will improve when the "big money" is all in Washington?

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And this will improve when the "big money" is all in Washington?

TB — 8/14/2009 4:07:15 PM (archived)

How has that worked for everything else the government does?

"...unnecessary procedures and operations, gross inefficiencies, outdated systems and needless complexity, a general lack of standardization, mountains of bureaucracy..."

Sit down with a cup of coffee or something and think about that for a while.

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Solutions for healthcare - TB - 8/12/2009 2:59:11 PM
- You gotta ration care to somebody - Baroke Obama - 8/14/2009 1:36:08 AM
  - Repeated lies. (n/t) - alcaray - 8/15/2009 9:44:23 PM
    - Which part is a lie??? Will it be illegal to leave the counrty for better care? (n/t) - Baroke Obama - 8/17/2009 1:19:42 PM
      - The lie is that in a proposed medical bill... - alcaray - 8/17/2009 5:16:15 PM
        
        Well they have to ration care somewhere... - Baroke Obama - 8/18/2009 4:27:20 AM
        
        Doesn't make sense. - alcaray - 8/18/2009 7:36:23 PM
        
        re: proposed medical bill - TB - 8/17/2009 5:52:43 PM
        
        The passage *provides* funds for end of life counseling. - alcaray - 8/17/2009 6:52:00 PM
        
        Sidebar - TB - 8/17/2009 6:26:26 PM
        
        You've never seen a for-profit, physician-owned hosptal in action! - z - 8/17/2009 7:58:26 PM
        
        Dentist - dtb - 8/17/2009 11:46:36 PM
        
        Have you? - TB - 8/17/2009 9:13:48 PM
        
        Sure, physicians at non-profits are pressured to overuse medical services, too - z - 8/18/2009 1:44:28 PM
        
        What exactly do you think surgeons do for a living? (n/t) - alcaray - 8/17/2009 6:53:23 PM
- Healthcare and unintended consequences - FrankC - 8/14/2009 1:16:45 AM
  - re: Healthcare and unintended consequences - Jack Herer - 8/14/2009 3:38:22 PM
    - Its not about money...Its about Logistics. - Baroke Obama - 8/17/2009 1:23:09 PM
    - Yes, and who's making big money in our current broken healthcare system? - z - 8/14/2009 3:52:32 PM
      - Well personally, I don't know a single doctor who is hurting for money... - Baroke Obama - 8/17/2009 1:29:05 PM
        
        One of the biggest problems with US healthcare... - z - 8/17/2009 3:39:28 PM
      - And this will improve when the "big money" is all in Washington? - TB - 8/14/2009 4:07:15 PM
- Which one of those health care ideas are endorsed by the GOP leadership? - Buck Galaxy - 8/13/2009 5:52:00 AM
  - Admmittedly the GOP does have a plan: Those who can pay get treated. - Baroke Obama - 8/14/2009 1:40:00 AM
    - The rich can always get better care. - alcaray - 8/14/2009 1:50:32 AM
      - Well I guess that depends on what we define as minimally adaquae - Baroke Obama - 8/14/2009 1:55:59 AM
        
        It is up to us to set the standard. (n/t) - alcaray - 8/14/2009 2:16:00 AM
        
        I wish it was up to us... But a bunch of foreigner's own the debt that we must finance to pay for our "Standard of care" - Baroke Obama - 8/14/2009 2:21:15 AM
        
        I might actually read your posts seriously if you knew how to spell the President's name. - Eri - 8/15/2009 12:18:48 AM
        
        re: You are correct. I should have more respect for the Leader. Thank you. (n/t) - Broke Obama - 8/17/2009 1:31:23 PM
        
        I don't think the Chinese care. Or maybe they want to sell us medical equipment? (n/t) - alcaray - 8/14/2009 4:16:28 AM
- Btw, more on costs (diabetes) - dtb - 8/12/2009 6:04:01 PM
  - re: Under my plan, Babies will be tested for diabetes. - Baroke Obama - 8/14/2009 1:43:19 AM
  - "Costs" and "expenses" are not the same thing. (n/t) - TB - 8/12/2009 6:12:02 PM
    - re: "Costs" and "expenses" are not the same thing. - dtb - 8/12/2009 6:23:06 PM
      - Insurance - TB - 8/12/2009 7:08:37 PM
        
        Forcing others to pay your medical bills! (n/t) - alcaray - 8/12/2009 8:11:38 PM
        
        There's no "force" here. I still have choices. So far. - TB - 8/12/2009 8:57:44 PM
        
        re: There's no "force" here. I still have choices. So far. - Marcia - 8/12/2009 10:28:28 PM
        
        re: There's no "force" here. I still have choices. So far. - Marcia - 8/12/2009 11:08:45 PM
        
        Fair enough - dtb - 8/12/2009 7:35:50 PM
        
        re: Fair enough - TB - 8/12/2009 8:09:54 PM
        
        On the "every man to himself" point, see Megan McArdle's blog for examples (n/t) - dtb - 8/12/2009 8:26:59 PM
        
        Any particular post? (n/t) - TB - 8/12/2009 9:09:14 PM
- Works for whole foods - dtb - 8/12/2009 4:38:06 PM
  - I used to think that until I had kids... - Baroke Obama - 8/14/2009 2:05:23 AM
  - re: Works for whole foods - TB - 8/12/2009 6:01:53 PM
    - Interesting related comments on the Tree of Liberty quote - Socrates II - 8/13/2009 2:08:55 PM
      - re: comments on the Tree of Liberty quote - TB - 8/13/2009 4:02:20 PM

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