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A bit more news from Australia... - Tom Brosz - 10/28/2004 9:40:13 PM
- Your Nixon quote is bizzarely irrelevant - Daniel - 10/29/2004 2:18:25 PM
  - Yeah, convince me that everybody in Australia predicted that winning margin. - Tom Brosz - 10/29/2004 9:51:07 PM
    - rmaybe not the actual margin - Daniel - 10/30/2004 2:42:00 AM
      - Nixon - Tom Brosz - 10/30/2004 7:44:34 PM
  - (should read 'hundreds of billions' not 'hundreds of trillions') (n/t) - D. - 10/29/2004 3:02:03 PM

"American Taliban" tape released - Tom Brosz - 10/30/2004 7:37:15 PM

Explosives seen after U.S. took Baghdad - Donald - 10/29/2004 12:54:38 PM
- re: Explosives contain nitrogen. Nitrogen is good fertilizer for hemp production. - Stoners for Kerry - 10/29/2004 2:47:36 PM
- Or maybe not - Larry J - 10/29/2004 1:24:08 PM
  - Of course... - Donald - 10/29/2004 1:51:54 PM
    - The Washington Post puts it in context - Larry J - 10/29/2004 2:03:33 PM
      - Exactly my point - Donald - 10/29/2004 2:10:46 PM
        
        Only a fool demands perfection from humans - Larry J - 10/29/2004 2:32:37 PM
        
        Perfection... - Donald - 10/29/2004 2:38:40 PM
        
        Depends on the timeline - Larry J - 10/29/2004 5:45:19 PM
- Yes, and putting a dent in all the wishful thinking of the Conservatives over here - Lindy-pissed and ready to chew heads - 10/29/2004 1:00:01 PM
  - re: Yes, and putting a dent in all the wishful thinking of the Conservatives over here - ebnelson - 10/29/2004 5:21:17 PM
    - What's a "wastoid"? - Lindy - 10/30/2004 6:16:56 PM
  - The issue is symbolic... - Donald - 10/29/2004 1:17:20 PM
    - Note the progression............... - Publius - 10/30/2004 2:41:47 PM

Let's have another AMEN, Brothers! "Nothing speaks louder about their values and what they stand for than Halliburton." - Bowser - 10/30/2004 4:26:50 AM
- On Praising the Lord and George Bush - Lindy - 10/30/2004 6:12:40 PM

Transcript of DOD press conference on the munitions - Tom Brosz - 10/29/2004 10:41:13 PM
- Is that Donald "I won't lie to you" Rumsfeld's DoD? - Bowser - 10/30/2004 4:37:56 AM
  - So you prefer to trust Dan "I won't lie to you" Rather's cBS? (n/t) - I wouldn't - 10/30/2004 5:18:05 PM

1,111 - Donald - 10/30/2004 2:02:15 PM
- Scratch that - Donald - 10/30/2004 4:02:47 PM

Kerry trips over self lying about his military records - phil - 10/29/2004 6:44:39 PM
- the military record going around here concerns the difference between Iraq and Viet Nam.... - Publius - 10/30/2004 2:33:52 PM
- The Rs always blame others for what they're doing. It's a great tactic. (n/t) - Bowser - 10/30/2004 12:36:06 AM
- Bush signed 180? (n/t) - Tony - 10/29/2004 7:01:45 PM
  - re: Bush signed 180? Not technically. - Tom Brosz - 10/29/2004 7:18:08 PM

October surprise - p - 10/30/2004 1:10:41 PM

"We have failed to listen and we have failed to persuade." â€” White House Advisory Group on Public Diplomacy for the Arab and Muslim World - Bowser - 10/30/2004 10:53:38 AM
- Thanks for the link (n/t) - McFly - 10/30/2004 12:39:37 PM

Bush strategy all wrapped up in the response to one issue. - Bowser - 10/30/2004 3:49:13 AM
- And on the other hand - "Liberal twists worthy of pretzel factory" - Bowser - 10/30/2004 4:36:21 AM

Apparently US troops in Iraq are under foreign command. - Bowser - 10/30/2004 3:38:22 AM

NASA photo analyst: Bush wore a device during debate - Eric - 10/29/2004 6:49:13 PM
- Amused - Donald - 10/30/2004 2:13:13 AM
- LOL! - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/30/2004 1:39:53 AM
- Please focus completely on this and his TANG service and the explosives. (n/t) - ebnelson - 10/29/2004 9:59:09 PM
- Kid I like your style. - Stoners for Kerry - 10/29/2004 8:54:06 PM
  - re: Kid I like your style. - Eric - 10/30/2004 1:02:03 AM
- Bush Wears a Flack Jacket at the Town Hall - opie - 10/29/2004 7:17:34 PM
  - Exactly. - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/30/2004 1:48:43 AM
  - With all the DU (and Guardian) nutcases out there, can you blame him? - Larry J - 10/29/2004 7:34:28 PM
- You people are insane. - Tom Brosz - 10/29/2004 7:08:34 PM
  - You're guy is just plain crooked. It's all about power, isn't it, with absolutely no other consideration. - Bowser - 10/29/2004 10:51:28 PM

You folks enjoying the show? - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/30/2004 1:23:13 AM

Study puts Iraqi deaths at 100,000 - Donald - 10/29/2004 12:57:25 PM
- re: Study puts Iraqi deaths at 100,000 - Tom Brosz - 10/29/2004 6:49:37 PM
- Third time this has popped up on this page, Donald. Haven't addressed any of the previous objections, either. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 10/29/2004 6:42:41 PM
  - re: Like John Kerry, Don can't handle people questioning his omnipotence. - Scott Evil - 10/29/2004 10:16:02 PM
- re: Who cares, John Kerry is going to cut the size of Government in half. - Stoners for Kerry - 10/29/2004 2:13:57 PM
- Why don't you repost this faulty study until you spam the whole page? - ebnelson - 10/29/2004 1:54:35 PM
  - re: Your knowledge is Pathetic. Education Secretary Ted Kennedy will see to that your children are better educated than you! - Stoners for Kerry - 10/29/2004 2:36:48 PM
  - You're in denial, Ed - Donald - 10/29/2004 2:07:54 PM
    - I would say the evidence shows you, and the BDS sufferers are. - ebnelson - 10/29/2004 5:19:53 PM
    - re: Bush is a war Criminal. Kerry will have Attorney General Elliot Spitzer prosecute Bush! - Stoners for Kerry - 10/29/2004 2:16:56 PM
      - Childish remarks - Donald - 10/29/2004 2:40:31 PM
        
        Do you still blame Bush for hurricanes? (n/t) - ebnelson - 10/29/2004 5:20:27 PM
        
        re: Bush is a war criminal. We all agree. - Stoners for Kerry - 10/29/2004 2:44:37 PM
        
        There are lots of alternatives to intelligent discussion. - alcaray - 10/29/2004 3:29:05 PM
        
        And the sufferers of Bush Derangement Syndrome utilize them all. (n/t) - ebnelson - 10/29/2004 10:00:32 PM

Meanwhile - "The American military and the interim Iraqi government are quickly losing control of this provincial capital, which is larger and strategically more important than its sister city of Fal… - Bowser - 10/28/2004 2:36:20 PM
- A comment from a soldier in Iraq - Tom Brosz - 10/29/2004 5:29:21 AM
- Hmm. Another way to tell when we're winning in Iraq... - Tom Brosz - 10/28/2004 4:09:44 PM
  - How can starting a thread be considered changing the subject? (n/t) - alcaray - 10/28/2004 10:42:49 PM
  - Conservative doublespeak - the worse it gets, the better we're doing. - Bowser - 10/28/2004 5:44:41 PM
    - Yeah. Zarqawi is all about getting Iraqis resources back to the Iraqis. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 10/28/2004 9:28:13 PM
      - re: Why is Zarqawi alive? We could ahve killed him three times in 2002! (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 10/28/2004 11:42:04 PM
        
        But he was operating in the peaceful, non-terror supporting country run by that nice guy, Saddam. (n/t) - ebnelson - 10/29/2004 12:44:18 AM
        
        re: Actually in 2002 he was operating out the northern Kurdish territory. An area we overflew daily. (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 10/29/2004 7:08:41 AM
- "Things are better in Iraq, King noted, than anyone would guess from the media coverage" from someone who was just over there. - REB - 10/28/2004 2:39:04 PM
  - Damned straight - folks ignore the 5% of the country which is safe for Americans. - Bowser - 10/28/2004 3:17:42 PM
    - It's a hell of a lot more than 5 percent. Do some homework. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 10/28/2004 4:17:38 PM
      - How much more? Where would you and your family walk down the street unguarded? (n/t) - Bowser - 10/28/2004 5:45:28 PM
        
        Most of Kurdish territory. Some of the South. Do some research. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 10/28/2004 9:44:11 PM
        
        And that's what you call good news. Mission Accomplished sort of stuff. (n/t) - Bowser - 10/29/2004 4:22:41 AM
        
        Your 5 percent figure was a truckload of elephant crap. That's the only thing I was addressing. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 10/29/2004 7:21:38 PM

100,000 - Donald - 10/28/2004 8:09:17 PM
- And you still Pres. Bush for hurricanes? - ebnelson - 10/28/2004 9:14:19 PM
  - The president is a verb, too? - alcaray - 10/28/2004 10:31:31 PM
    - Can be, but try this: Don blames Pres. Bush for Hurricanes. - ebnelson - 10/28/2004 11:22:19 PM
      - That was me, Ed. And it was a joke. Kind of like you. (n/t) - LJ - 10/29/2004 4:01:59 PM
        
        No, Donald posted it. - ebnelson - 10/29/2004 5:22:14 PM
    - "After Tuesday, Kerry will be Bushed." (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 10/28/2004 10:52:24 PM
      - Careful counting those chickens! (n/t) - alcaray - 10/28/2004 11:07:27 PM
        
        Here's some hope for sanity. - Bowser - 10/28/2004 11:26:14 PM
        
        re: Chicken-counting? My predictions: - Tom Brosz - 10/28/2004 11:20:10 PM
        
        You have been busy! - alcaray - 10/28/2004 11:57:52 PM
        
        Busy? Not really. - Tom Brosz - 10/29/2004 12:16:18 AM
        
        Hey, I need the handycap! (n/t) - alcaray - 10/29/2004 12:20:05 AM
        
        re: Hey, I need the handycap! - gbaikie - 10/29/2004 5:49:53 AM
        
        I should be able to get better odds than that from the guy who thinks Bush will win California (n/t) - alcaray - 10/29/2004 3:30:34 PM
        
        Bush win California? Probably not. - Tom Brosz - 10/29/2004 7:19:33 PM
      - re: "After Tuesday, Bush will be Kerried away." (n/t) - Mary Anne - 10/28/2004 11:03:36 PM
- re: Oh, really? - Tom Brosz - 10/28/2004 8:26:18 PM
  - Really - Donald - 10/28/2004 8:34:42 PM
    - Apparently, actually applying the faculty of reason to this data means nothing to you. - Tom Brosz - 10/28/2004 9:17:13 PM
      - Death rates - LJ - 10/28/2004 10:45:43 PM
        
        Oops - source - LJ - 10/28/2004 10:51:41 PM
        
        Which specific link did you use? - Tom Brosz - 10/28/2004 11:09:35 PM
      - Tom, just more lies to try and slander the President with. - REB - 10/28/2004 9:21:33 PM
        
        Media is in full-bore Kerry defense mode. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 10/28/2004 9:27:05 PM

Amen, Brother! "Munitions Issue Dwarfs the Big Picture" PTL - Bowser - 10/29/2004 2:46:08 PM
- Iraq is a large country. Much ammo was hidden by Saddam Hussein's regime. We have not yet found it. So? What is the point? (n/t) - David F Mayer - 10/29/2004 6:59:35 PM
- Armed riot police clear several blocks for Bush's unexpected visit - Lindy - 10/29/2004 6:19:16 PM
- Yes, the munitions scam gives us great insights into how irresponsible and untruthful Kerry and the MSM are. (n/t) - ebnelson - 10/29/2004 5:17:16 PM

NASA Scientist: Bush Stifles Global Warming Evidence - Donald - 10/29/2004 2:36:52 PM
- You werent hoping for a rational discussion, were you? (n/t) - alcaray - 10/29/2004 6:33:55 PM
- Bush's message to scientist who disagree with him... - Eric - 10/29/2004 3:54:47 PM
  - re: Bush's is blocking important science involving hemp and childhood sleep apnia. - Stoners for Kerry - 10/29/2004 4:36:08 PM
    - Stoner for Bush - Stoner - 10/29/2004 5:35:14 PM
      - You guys are so derivative. - ebnelson - 10/29/2004 5:42:14 PM
- re: John Kerry will save NASA from Bush's militaristic goals. - Stoners for Kerry - 10/29/2004 2:41:08 PM

Kerry lied to the American people about the missing explosives in Iraq. - Scott Evil - 10/29/2004 4:31:56 PM
- Stoner for Bush - stoner - 10/29/2004 5:28:33 PM
- Just like the TANG scam, the Kerrykrats have been lying about this President and this war for years. (n/t) - ebnelson - 10/29/2004 5:16:09 PM

Amazing doc about linking AlQ to Saddam - alcaray - 10/29/2004 5:25:49 PM

A U.S. soldier is coming forward Friday to say a team from the 3rd Infantry Division took about 250 tons... - Eric - 10/29/2004 5:22:33 PM

Find your polling place - Tom Brosz - 10/28/2004 10:50:19 PM
- re: All you democrats need to know is that they can vote at the place where they get their driver license renewed. - Scott Evil - 10/29/2004 3:27:52 PM

Spam and junk phone calls as a basis for systematic bias in polls - Gary - 10/28/2004 3:48:57 PM
- re: Spam and junk phone calls as a basis for systematic bias in polls - Chris Vancil - 10/28/2004 11:03:26 PM
- "too stupid to get unlisted telephone numbers " ??? - Tony - 10/28/2004 6:23:27 PM
  - Apologies. I didn't phrase that right. - Gary - 10/28/2004 7:06:48 PM
    - I paid for an unlisted number, and have gotten several calls from pollsters, and spam calls asking me to change my phone service... - R.L. - 10/29/2004 6:59:24 AM
      - My favorite telemarketer story - Larry J - 10/29/2004 2:17:30 PM
    - Telemarketers don't have to use phone books - Larry J - 10/28/2004 10:05:08 PM
- From today's Washington Post... - Larry J - 10/28/2004 5:30:42 PM
- Maybe a little - FrankC - 10/28/2004 5:28:23 PM

Bush increases lead. - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/25/2004 1:19:22 AM
- re: Yes, and in other polls their even. Checkout the electoral college ones as well. What a close race! (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 10/25/2004 5:59:57 AM
- How Do You Loose To A President With Low Favorability Ratings? - Mark Eby - 10/25/2004 1:45:59 AM
  - Anyone but Bush? I'd rather vote for a ham sandwich? - Gary - 10/25/2004 3:19:29 PM
  - re: Fear is the mind killer. (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 10/25/2004 5:42:43 AM
    - Fear Is A Survival Mechanism - Mark Eby - 10/26/2004 2:11:41 AM
      - re: Fear Is A Survival Mechanism - Chris Vancil - 10/26/2004 10:30:32 PM
        
        If You Were Thinking You Could Spot Kerry's BS - Mark Eby - 10/27/2004 12:41:08 AM
        
        re: If You Were Thinking You Could Spot Kerry's BS - Chris Vancil - 10/27/2004 10:57:55 PM
        
        Again What's Different Between Kerry & Clinton? - Mark Eby - 10/28/2004 3:02:09 AM
        
        re: Again What's Different Between Kerry & Clinton? - Chris Vancil - 10/28/2004 11:38:31 PM
        
        No Need To Accept Anything - Use The Brain I Know You Have Rather Than The Hatred - Mark Eby - 10/29/2004 1:19:03 AM
        
        re: The Hatred - Chris Vancil - 10/29/2004 8:05:47 AM
      - Fear is also a tool used to manipulate - LJ - 10/26/2004 4:57:08 PM
    - Smile, relax.... be happy :-) (n/t) - Gary - 10/25/2004 3:34:15 PM
      - re: As you are not taking that advise why give it? (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 10/25/2004 10:07:16 PM

Bush administration nixed bombing Zarqawi 3 times - Chris Vancil - 10/28/2004 10:29:28 PM
- Recycling again, huh? Ammo getting low? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 10/28/2004 10:50:56 PM
  - re: No Tom, seems my post disappeared. Try for once to reply to the contents. (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 10/28/2004 10:54:26 PM
    - Okay... - Tom Brosz - 10/28/2004 11:53:07 PM
      - re: Okay... - Chris Vancil - 10/29/2004 7:55:50 AM

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