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Catching up with Saddam - "Study: 100,000 Iraqis died in war, aftermath - Science journal say coalition caused majority of violent deaths" - Bowser - 10/28/2004 7:20:14 PM
- Ahh Bowser, why did you have to go and ruin it all? - Lindy - 10/29/2004 5:33:35 AM
- Odd numbers. - Tom Brosz - 10/28/2004 9:20:11 PM
- A crime against humanity - Donald - 10/28/2004 7:57:11 PM
  - re: Will President John Kerry and the US pony up and pay $250 Billion in war reparations? - A. Liberal - 10/28/2004 10:16:25 PM
- re: Catching up with Saddam - "Study: 100,000 Iraqis died in war, aftermath - Science journal say coalition caused majority of violent deaths" - Jack Herer - 10/28/2004 7:33:54 PM

One small, inconsequetial swing State lining up solidly for Kerry. - Bowser - 10/29/2004 4:45:29 AM

Off the beaten path... - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/29/2004 3:51:53 AM

Explosives Story Won't Disappear - Donald - 10/28/2004 1:50:44 PM
- Great thread - they all lined up. (n/t) - Bowser - 10/28/2004 7:21:49 PM
  - Not anymore (n/t) - reswob - 10/29/2004 3:27:09 AM
- Coordinated media buttmonkey attack fell flat... - Tom Brosz - 10/28/2004 4:53:19 PM
- Kerrybots conceed story may not be factual but still run ads - p - 10/28/2004 4:14:29 PM
- This October surprise has already lost its punch - Gary - 10/28/2004 3:56:50 PM
- And becoming enlightened - SteveS - 10/28/2004 3:33:31 PM
- According to ABC News, the amount of missing explosives may be 3 tons - Larry J - 10/28/2004 2:23:17 PM
- Kerry will wish it would soon enough, when this blows up in his face. - REB - 10/28/2004 2:15:49 PM

A Kerry endorsement - Mary Anne - 10/28/2004 1:40:06 AM
- re: And put John Edwards a heartbeat away from the Presidency? - Scott Evil - 10/28/2004 1:18:30 PM
  - People who supported McKinley weren't too thrilled by his Vice Presidential pick either. - Mary Anne - 10/28/2004 1:42:26 PM
    - I think we have a pretty good view of John Edwards. And Teddy stands miles higher than little John could ever hope. - ebnelson - 10/28/2004 2:57:52 PM
- re: A Kerry endorsement - gbaikie - 10/28/2004 11:16:33 AM
  - Your analysis doesn't take into account that the publication is neither leftist nor liberal, but conservative conservative conservative. - Mary Anne - 10/28/2004 1:37:05 PM
    - re: Your analysis doesn't take into account that the publication is neither leftist nor liberal, but conservative conservative conservative. - gbaikie - 10/28/2004 6:50:11 PM
    - No. And this clarifies that a lot of liberals really have no idea what conservatism is all about. - Tom Brosz - 10/28/2004 5:29:03 PM
      - Holy smoke! Did I miss Pat Robertson saying something I wanted to hear, when I was on vacation??? (n/t) - alcaray - 10/29/2004 12:17:25 AM
      - Calling Pat Buchanan "scary" is putting him on a pedestal? - Mary Anne - 10/28/2004 7:32:28 PM
- A Bush endorsement - Tom Brosz - 10/28/2004 5:56:07 AM
  - Ah! I see you still believe in "equal time". - Mary Anne - 10/28/2004 10:40:38 AM
- I don't see an important trend here... - Tom Brosz - 10/28/2004 5:07:29 AM
  - Of course you don't. - Mary Anne - 10/28/2004 10:38:00 AM
- Bush has behaved like a caricature of what a right-wing president is supposed to be - Lindy - 10/28/2004 3:36:06 AM
  - You may not really love him, Lindy. - Mary Anne - 10/28/2004 10:45:38 AM
- Read Zel Miller's (D, GA) Comments? (n/t) - Mark Eby - 10/28/2004 1:46:53 AM
  - His name doesn't receive a byline in the current issue or the preview. - Mary Anne - 10/28/2004 1:56:16 AM
    - PS: I don't get it delivered. If subscribers get more content, then I will not have seen it. (n/t) - Mary Anne - 10/28/2004 1:57:53 AM
      - Was Referring To Convention Comments - Mark Eby - 10/28/2004 2:51:48 AM

"Missing Explosives Flap," continued... - Tom Brosz - 10/28/2004 6:17:15 AM
- The missing explosives scandal is that the DNC and the big meida once again thought they could lie in a coordinated fashion to trick Americans. (n/t) - ebnelson - 10/28/2004 1:22:34 PM
  - The fact that this is year old news says a lot in itself - SteveS - 10/28/2004 3:48:51 PM
    - I thought Bush said he has known about it for a few weeks (before story broke)? (n/t) - alcaray - 10/28/2004 10:45:38 PM
      - Iraqi authorities informed IAEA of the missing stockpile in Sept 03 as part of there verification obligation - SteveS - 10/28/2004 11:58:04 PM

Unless they can get it to Scalia, in Ohio they'll vote. "Judge Rebuffs GOP Effort to Contest Voters in Ohio" - Bowser - 10/28/2004 7:34:12 PM
- From the perspective of those who pay for voters with crack, yes, legal voting would be odd. - ebnelson - 10/28/2004 10:04:39 PM
- Democrats for election fraud - Larry J - 10/28/2004 9:33:35 PM
  - re: That might explain why my dog just recieved a draft notice. (n/t) - Wowser - 10/28/2004 10:26:30 PM
- re: In Ohio they'll vote. - Tom Brosz - 10/28/2004 8:22:00 PM
  - They'll have to get past the R "poll watchers". - Bowser - 10/28/2004 11:46:33 PM

Iraqis: Munitions site looted after U.S. arrived - Donald - 10/28/2004 8:29:54 PM
- Exclusive footage brings to light new questions about unguarded explosives in Iraq. - Eric - 10/28/2004 11:20:43 PM
- re: This just in: The UN leaked the location of the explosives to Al Queda so that they could be used against US Troops. (n/t) - Wowser - 10/28/2004 10:20:18 PM
- Military take on it - Tom Brosz - 10/28/2004 9:30:23 PM

Experts ponder missing Iraq weapons - Chris Vancil - 10/26/2004 11:38:13 PM
- NOW everybody's excited about weapons that are not accounted for? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 10/27/2004 12:42:22 AM
- Experts ponder misconception - SteveS - 10/27/2004 12:19:16 AM
  - re: What an absurd argument. - Chris Vancil - 10/27/2004 1:04:07 AM
    - That's funny - SteveS - 10/27/2004 12:58:11 PM
      - Funnier still is we went in to sercure WMD and they didn't bother to sercure this possible components. - Chris Vancil - 10/27/2004 10:20:43 PM
    - The Pentagon has stated that these explosives have not yet been used. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 10/27/2004 4:19:38 AM
      - re: And we should believe them because? They have egg on their collective face and sure to hell are not going to make it worse. (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 10/27/2004 10:00:59 AM
        
        Zero evidence. Zero. - Tom Brosz - 10/27/2004 7:00:32 PM
        
        re: So you are saying every attack they analyzed the traces of the explosives used? Your proof? (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 10/27/2004 10:23:19 PM
        
        BTW... - Tom Brosz - 10/28/2004 5:50:28 AM
        
        Yes. Most of the time they do. - Tom Brosz - 10/28/2004 5:47:50 AM
        
        re: I think you are wrong. Anyway it would take only one bombing for my statement to be true. (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 10/28/2004 11:11:20 PM

America the Vulnerable: How Our Government Is Failing to Protect Us from Terrorism - Chris Vancil - 10/28/2004 7:14:42 AM
- And the lefties, through the ACLU, resisting enforcement of our borders, and imposition of PC security procedures are helping just how? (n/t) - ebnelson - 10/28/2004 1:20:25 PM
  - re: You in your fear I'm right didn't read any of the story did you, Ed? Where did the terrorist strike us, Ed? You, Mark, Tom, Larry, Steve, Scott and all the rest don't get terrorism at all. You wa… (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 10/28/2004 2:09:19 PM
    - Fear of your being correct on anything political ranks below my fear of a black hole swallowing the universe. - ebnelson - 10/28/2004 3:01:18 PM
    - So, be specific. How could we "protect" all of America from terrorism? - Larry J - 10/28/2004 2:34:36 PM
      - re: Gees, you and Ed never read stuff do you? - Chris Vancil - 10/28/2004 10:43:49 PM
  - Undermining the Bill of Rights will not help fight terrorism. - Mary Anne - 10/28/2004 1:47:24 PM
    - Since they are not being undermined, you should be happy. (n/t) - ebnelson - 10/28/2004 4:28:08 PM
    - re: My greatest fear is what these yahoos will do after the next attack. If only they could think and be afraid at the same time. (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 10/28/2004 2:23:46 PM

October Surprise Anyone? - Perspective - 10/28/2004 3:37:02 AM
- Well, hello again - Mary Anne - 10/28/2004 2:01:57 PM
  - re: Timing - Tom Brosz - 10/28/2004 4:40:39 PM
- So once again, the big media, coordinating with the DNC, promoted a lie to hurt our President. - ebnelson - 10/28/2004 1:18:55 PM
- Article seems to be back up again. - Tom Brosz - 10/28/2004 6:39:36 AM
- Can't see the article right now, but an interesting idea - Tom Brosz - 10/28/2004 4:43:07 AM
- Who the fuck is perspective (n/t) - FrankC - 10/28/2004 4:18:26 AM
  - I remember him, Frank. - Mary Anne - 10/28/2004 1:48:45 PM
    - re: I remember him, Frank. - Perspective - 10/28/2004 7:54:08 PM
    - But it could be a "her" - Lindy - 10/28/2004 5:30:42 PM
  - Actually "perspective" has been a handle used before - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/28/2004 5:51:19 AM
    - re: Actually "perspective" has been a handle used before - Lindy - 10/28/2004 9:36:01 AM
  - I have a feeling you'll get an answer. - RobVG - 10/28/2004 4:30:41 AM

Attempted murder on Katharine Harris - Tom Brosz - 10/27/2004 7:03:45 PM
- I wonder if they'll let any Florida democrats on the jury (n/t) - E.P. Grondine - 10/27/2004 11:54:37 PM
- Notice the reaction of the lefties here. (n/t) - ebnelson - 10/27/2004 9:37:33 PM
  - re: Notice the reaction of the Floridians here. (n/t) - Mary Anne - 10/28/2004 12:14:26 AM
    - re: Notice the reaction of the Floridians here. - gbaikie - 10/28/2004 8:04:15 AM
      - How can I tell he wasn't a Democrat?..........He missed! (n/t) - Publius - 10/28/2004 7:03:27 PM
      - No. I'm referring to the opinion of people who live in the state where she has influenced public life most profoundly. - Mary Anne - 10/28/2004 10:48:02 AM
        
        Yes, Katherin did enforce the law strictly. That is why she won a seat in congress overwhelmingly. (n/t) - ebnelson - 10/28/2004 1:25:20 PM
        
        In an overwhelmingly Republican district. - Mary Anne - 10/28/2004 1:44:28 PM
      - Way off the mark.......... - Lindy - 10/28/2004 9:43:34 AM
- Obiously a hoax---a Democrat in a Cadillac? Get real. (n/t) - Publius - 10/27/2004 7:07:59 PM
  - Now I suppose she'll need Secret Service Agents - Lindy - 10/27/2004 9:20:23 PM

A tale of two Georges........they are both leaders because they lead...... - Publius - 10/27/2004 7:05:52 PM
- You are using Seinfeld episodes? - ebnelson - 10/27/2004 10:36:11 PM
- re: A tale of two Georges........they are both leaders because they lead...... - REB - 10/27/2004 7:08:51 PM
  - Only a Republican would think George Washington owned the Yankees..... (n/t) - Publius - 10/28/2004 7:00:35 PM

Republican letters from home - Donald - 10/28/2004 1:12:28 PM
- Meanwhile: 1,110 - Donald - 10/28/2004 1:15:00 PM
  - Go, Herr Goebells, go! (n/t) - ebnelson - 10/28/2004 1:23:16 PM
    - If Donald is Goebells, then I guess you'd say Bush is Hitler. - Bowser - 10/28/2004 2:56:53 PM
      - You would guess wrong. Who is Don supporting with his lies, little puppy? - ebnelson - 10/28/2004 3:00:05 PM
        
        Now, eb, what lies. You still haven't come up with anything. - Bowser - 10/28/2004 3:22:14 PM
        
        Maybe if this is spoken very slowly, and very very simply, you might get it. - ebnelson - 10/28/2004 4:26:51 PM
        
        Now you're calling Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, et al. liars. And you're right. - Bowser - 10/28/2004 5:49:20 PM
        
        yawn. You run out of your capability envelope almost before you start. - ebnelson - 10/28/2004 6:39:51 PM
    - Boy, Ed.... - Donald - 10/28/2004 1:27:24 PM
      - Don't bother. Conservatives would rather ignore the dead GIs, pretend they don't really die. (n/t) - Bowser - 10/28/2004 2:57:55 PM
      - Nope, I just call it for what you do. - ebnelson - 10/28/2004 2:55:08 PM

60 Minutes' Sunday Night Conundrum - phil - 10/28/2004 1:20:45 PM
- re: 60 Minutes' Sunday Night Conundrum - Tom Brosz - 10/28/2004 4:16:32 PM
  - re: 60 Minutes' Sunday Night Conundrum - p - 10/28/2004 6:09:18 PM
- Hell, you'd complain if they showed Bush in his own stage-managed crowning glory. - Bowser - 10/28/2004 2:50:30 PM
- re: 60 Minutes' Sunday Night Conundrum - Scott Evil - 10/28/2004 1:23:56 PM
  - You forgot about the secret gay marriage of Cheney and Rumsfeld (n/t) - Gary - 10/28/2004 3:59:01 PM

Good Op-Eds about the election over at Command Post - Gary - 10/28/2004 4:15:11 PM

Who hates Osama Bin Laden even MORE than the USA? - David F Mayer - 10/28/2004 5:44:33 AM
- Some experts think Osama is in Iran - Gary - 10/28/2004 4:07:56 PM

Good news from Israel-Palestine neighborhood. The KING of TERRORISM may be on the way OUT! I certainly hope so. - David F Mayer - 10/27/2004 9:04:40 PM
- Lessee. Arafat won the Nobel Peace Prize, and Sharon is a war criminal. - Bowser - 10/28/2004 12:35:19 AM
  - re: Lessee. Arafat won the Nobel Peace Prize, and Sharon is a war criminal. - David F Mayer - 10/28/2004 5:51:41 AM
  - Typical Liberal (n/t) - Mark Eby - 10/28/2004 1:31:01 AM
- Why do you think this will make any difference? (n/t) - E.P. Grondine - 10/27/2004 10:46:41 PM
  - Yes. It just might. - Tom Brosz - 10/28/2004 5:10:27 AM
  - Because Arafat started the Intifada after he walked out of negotiations. Because Arafat is the number one terrorist in the World, ahead even of Bin Laden. When he dies, the Palestinian movement will… - David F Mayer - 10/27/2004 11:44:34 PM
    - Which negotiations? Why ahead of bin Laden? Won't the Palestinians still have one President? (n/t) - E.P. Grondine - 10/27/2004 11:47:48 PM
      - My answers - David F Mayer - 10/28/2004 5:55:42 AM
        
        hmmm.. - E.P. Grondine - 10/28/2004 2:49:49 PM

Cheney - Iraq is "a remarkable success story to date - - - " - Bowser - 10/27/2004 5:58:17 PM
- You really think Halliburton is controlling the oil? - ebnelson - 10/27/2004 10:26:58 PM
- re: Bush Cheney have taken Iraq with Fewer than 1500 US casualties. - Scott Evil - 10/27/2004 6:05:02 PM
  - Actually it looks like less than 900 Killed in Action, from Bowser's source. So Don is lying more than I realilzed. - ebnelson - 10/27/2004 10:34:44 PM
  - You just make things up, too, don't you. 19,000 CPA casualties, + Iraqis. - Bowser - 10/27/2004 8:33:29 PM
    - re: So US casualties really are way less than John Kerry's 80% lie figure... - Scott Evil - 10/28/2004 1:30:06 PM

Putting the blame where it belongs, on crazy mullahs. - David F Mayer - 10/28/2004 6:00:19 AM
- Ah, the Religion of Peace (n/t) - p - 10/28/2004 12:53:57 PM

"Missing Explosives" flap falling to bits - Tom Brosz - 10/27/2004 7:34:18 PM
- Yeap It's A Crime If Bush Missed It Amidst A Period Of Chaos, But No Problem For International Agencies To Ignore in KerryFland (n/t) - Mark Eby - 10/28/2004 1:36:03 AM
- Just like the TANG scam. - ebnelson - 10/27/2004 10:02:13 PM
- Roger Simon comments on the Sun article - Tom Brosz - 10/27/2004 8:27:58 PM
  - re: Roger Simon comments on the Sun article - gbaikie - 10/27/2004 10:44:56 PM
  - You wrote: "If Iraq succeeds, the U.N. takes a major hit. If Bush is elected, there's a chance of that happening. If Kerry is, there isn't." I disagree - David F Mayer - 10/27/2004 9:07:37 PM
    - I think I'm right. - Tom Brosz - 10/28/2004 5:13:16 AM
    - That's Not What His Supporters Think - Mark Eby - 10/28/2004 1:44:21 AM
    - David, don't bet on that. - ebnelson - 10/27/2004 10:48:18 PM
- More here... - Tom Brosz - 10/27/2004 8:14:10 PM

First U.S. Unit at Iraq Site Did Not Hunt Explosives - Donald - 10/28/2004 2:49:29 AM
- The rest of the article... - Tom Brosz - 10/28/2004 4:58:05 AM

The Streets will run with blood - FrankC - 10/27/2004 6:28:29 PM
- Terror Warning - Lindy - 10/28/2004 3:49:15 AM
  - Anyone know of a terrorist attack that coincided with any significant event? - RobVG - 10/28/2004 4:44:02 AM
    - Well, I guess there were the elections in Spain. Anything else? (n/t) - RobVg - 10/28/2004 4:54:56 AM
- We have been at war for many years. We woke up to that on 911. - ebnelson - 10/27/2004 10:29:43 PM
- Doesn't sound like ABC is "holding" it very tightly - Tom Brosz - 10/27/2004 6:54:02 PM
  - re: any idiot can put on a mask and make a tape - Scott Evil - 10/27/2004 7:41:50 PM

Typical conservative." - - - administration wants to hear only scientific results that "fit predetermined, inflexible positions." - Bowser - 10/28/2004 12:52:36 AM
- Yeap - Mark Eby - 10/28/2004 1:32:23 AM

U.S. may add troops for Iraqi elections? - Chris Vancil - 10/27/2004 10:21:22 AM
- It worked well in Afghanistan. Why not in Iraq? (n/t) - ebnelson - 10/27/2004 2:00:58 PM
  - At least in Afghanistan the US controls the entire capital, if nothing else. - Bowser - 10/27/2004 4:24:14 PM
    - Baghdad is a huge part of Iraq's population. - ebnelson - 10/27/2004 11:41:24 PM
      - And the Green Zone is a little itsy bitsy part of that. (n/t) - Bowser - 10/28/2004 12:38:26 AM

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