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...and the Lockheed strike marches on...week 9 - Jody - 6/16/2012 4:50:36 PM
- When looking for jobs in the Aerospace field.... - VelociraptorBlade - 6/17/2012 8:07:26 AM
  - Re: When looking for jobs in the Aerospace field.... - Jody - 6/17/2012 1:27:50 PM
- Not sure if that's the link you want n/t - RobVG - 6/16/2012 8:30:16 PM
  - Re: Not sure if that's the link you want n/t - Jody - 6/16/2012 8:45:35 PM
    - Works now. The link fairy must have fixed it... n/t - RobVG - 6/17/2012 3:28:48 PM
      - Re: Works now. The link fairy must have fixed it... n/t - Jody - 6/17/2012 11:56:13 PM

The peculiar "science" of Christians. - bowser - 6/15/2012 6:11:23 AM
- Re: The peculiar "science" of Christians. - VelociraptorBlade - 6/17/2012 3:46:49 AM

They caught 'em at it this time. - bowser - 6/16/2012 12:24:35 PM

Watching Democrats. - bowser - 6/15/2012 9:12:06 PM
- Re: Watching Democrats. - Jody - 6/15/2012 9:34:50 PM
  - The heavy donors, state and federal combined, -here-. - TB - 6/15/2012 10:20:22 PM
    - you mean #2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 11, 12, 13, 16, 17, 19, 20, 22...(in 2008) - Robert - 6/15/2012 10:43:34 PM
      - I suppose we could define any business at all as a "megacorporation" - TB - 6/15/2012 11:10:14 PM
        
        Heh, heh. Right on track, TB. - bowser - 6/16/2012 1:50:31 AM
        
        Re: Heh, heh. Right on track, TB. - TB - 6/16/2012 2:10:50 AM

The function of the US military. - bowser - 6/13/2012 2:06:17 AM
- The Cold War. - RobVG - 6/13/2012 3:18:02 PM
- I used to want to be a defense contractor for DARPA - VelociraptorBlade - 6/13/2012 2:59:23 AM
  - A new addition to my list of downsides to mortality - FrankC - 6/14/2012 7:01:14 PM
    - Hey... - VelociraptorBlade - 6/15/2012 5:18:39 AM
  - Re: I used to want to be a defense contractor for DARPA - TB - 6/13/2012 3:27:15 AM
    - At this point in time, very few seem appealling. I'll work out a list later for you guys. - VelociraptorBlade - 6/13/2012 5:30:53 AM
      - Here's a few - FrankC - 6/13/2012 11:40:11 PM
        
        Any place in the Americas is out of question - VelociraptorBlade - 6/13/2012 11:59:41 PM
        
        Re: Any place in the Americas is out of question - podrock - 6/14/2012 12:59:51 AM
        
        Well, keep looking. - TB - 6/14/2012 12:30:44 AM
        
        I have found at least two... - VelociraptorBlade - 6/14/2012 1:39:36 AM
        
        An even better idea - FrankC - 6/14/2012 6:47:52 PM
        
        Here you go... - TB - 6/14/2012 3:32:25 AM
        
        interesting, but an obvious Capitalist scam - FrankC - 6/14/2012 6:43:05 PM
        
        It's fudging at least one stat - Robert - 6/14/2012 10:25:17 PM
        
        Thanks.... - VelociraptorBlade - 6/14/2012 4:22:21 AM
        
        You'll need to know German to emigrate to Liechtenstein. - TB - 6/14/2012 2:34:49 AM
        
        Well, that's a given - VelociraptorBlade - 6/14/2012 4:18:42 AM

The times cry for new statistics. - bowser - 6/12/2012 6:06:06 AM
- A nation of shopkeepers. - ER - 6/13/2012 5:49:54 PM
- The report can be found -here-. - TB - 6/12/2012 4:55:58 PM
  - Thanks, we needed that. - bowser - 6/13/2012 2:09:01 AM
    - Your phrase was the "rich getting richer, and the poor getting poorer." - TB - 6/13/2012 2:39:03 AM
      - I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. - bowser - 6/13/2012 2:52:57 AM
        
        First we change parameters, and then we change the time frame. - TB - 6/13/2012 3:56:06 AM
        
        Re: First we change parameters, and then we change the time frame. - Jody - 6/13/2012 2:54:58 PM
        
        It's not about hating the rich, at all. Even a little bit. - bowser - 6/13/2012 3:42:28 PM
        
        Re: It's not about hating the rich, at all. Even a little bit. - Jody - 6/13/2012 4:17:29 PM
        
        TB, you are such a flake. - bowser - 6/13/2012 4:38:13 AM

Another one bites the dust. - bowser - 6/11/2012 1:18:12 AM
- Re: Another one bites the dust. - TB - 6/11/2012 3:13:03 AM

Pet Peeve #1 - Jody - 6/8/2012 4:26:48 PM
- There's nothing wrong with expecting reward - RobVG - 6/9/2012 5:31:49 PM
  - Re: There's nothing wrong with expecting reward - Jody - 6/9/2012 7:14:37 PM
- Re: Pet Peeve #1 - Jody - 6/8/2012 11:02:01 PM
  - What matters is that you gave... - podrock - 6/9/2012 3:57:46 AM
    - Re: What matters is that you gave... - Jody - 6/9/2012 5:45:44 AM
  - Jody, pause, take a deep breath and think. - bowser - 6/8/2012 11:16:33 PM
    - Re: Jody, pause, take a deep breath and think. - Jody - 6/9/2012 12:51:21 AM
      - I'm not sure I understand. - bowser - 6/9/2012 8:58:24 AM
        
        Re: I'm not sure I understand. - Jody - 6/9/2012 5:05:48 PM
- A similar story - bowser - 6/8/2012 9:02:35 PM
- From each according to their ability, to each according to their need - FrankC - 6/8/2012 8:31:03 PM

The price of conservatism or- "Boy did we take it inzzabut" - RobVG - 6/8/2012 1:50:34 AM
- Medical cannabis laws create a paradox - Robert - 6/8/2012 9:47:02 PM
  - The role of government. - bowser - 6/8/2012 11:07:13 PM
    - While I'm at it, there's that G--D-----d Woody Harrelson. - bowser - 6/8/2012 11:21:18 PM
- hate it when that happens - FrankC - 6/8/2012 3:21:45 AM

I sleep better knowing Exxon loves me so. - bowser - 6/8/2012 5:57:26 AM

We have it all right here. - bowser - 6/7/2012 5:34:50 AM

Using cell phones while driving. - bowser - 6/6/2012 11:30:54 PM
- Re: Using cell phones while driving. - Jody - 6/7/2012 3:09:22 AM

Pravda covers the Wisconsin election - TB - 6/6/2012 5:06:34 PM
- Something else I noticed in the media: - TB - 6/6/2012 10:39:04 PM
- TB, I didn't see Pravda, didn't see one communist. I did see MSNBC show a political concession. Your hallucinations are getting the better of you. - bowser - 6/6/2012 6:49:10 PM
  - Re: TB, I didn't see Pravda, didn't see one communist. I did see MSNBC show a political concession. Your hallucinations are getting the better of you. - TB - 6/6/2012 10:25:01 PM
    - It's a recurrent delusion, TB, and I know you won't accept responsibility for it. - bowser - 6/6/2012 11:03:35 PM
      - And you apparently haven't intellectually constructed a political or economic view since childhood. - TB - 6/6/2012 11:21:46 PM
        
        Many people who are locked up don't have that level of delusion. - bowser - 6/6/2012 11:37:52 PM
        
        I have, several times. As well as views on any number of issues. And you're right on one thing. - bowser - 6/6/2012 11:35:10 PM

Good bye Mt. Olympia. - Jody - 6/5/2012 3:47:15 PM
- Re: Good bye Mt. Olympia. - Jody - 6/5/2012 10:22:21 PM
  - Actually, Jody... - Robert - 6/6/2012 5:13:40 AM
- When you read these mainstream media articles, you need your handy translator: - TB - 6/5/2012 4:30:12 PM
  - How do you define "RINO"? - Robert - 6/5/2012 8:22:19 PM
    - Any Republican who might as well be a Democrat based on their voting records and ideas. - TB - 6/5/2012 9:01:05 PM
      - Do you recall a recent "discussion" about Republican extremism? - Robert - 6/6/2012 5:01:26 AM
        
        You kidding? - TB - 6/6/2012 5:20:46 AM
        
        There's a man named "Lugar" who would like you to answer Robert. - bowser - 6/6/2012 6:29:46 AM
      - A Republican who doesn't goose step well. Doesn't follow the Party line blindly. - bowser - 6/6/2012 4:31:00 AM
  - In a diverse society, with many different groups and agendas, compromise is necessary. - bowser - 6/5/2012 7:01:51 PM

Let's run this past one more time. - bowser - 6/6/2012 2:24:12 AM

Quote for the day. - bowser - 6/6/2012 2:15:25 AM

Women's pay. I guess it's in how you look at it. - RobVG - 6/5/2012 3:04:14 AM
- "Senate Republicans block pay equity bill" - bowser - 6/6/2012 1:05:12 AM
- I think they should get paid, something. - bowser - 6/5/2012 3:27:28 AM
  - No need for a sarcasm there... - RobVG - 6/5/2012 3:35:42 AM
    - I agree. - bowser - 6/5/2012 4:11:30 AM
      - I don't know... - RobVG - 6/5/2012 4:23:04 AM
        
        I don't know why it should be a political football. - bowser - 6/5/2012 6:45:53 PM
        
        Romney's ratings among women have been going up, despite the Democrats' best efforts. - TB - 6/5/2012 4:34:01 PM
        
        Romney has a chance. He can finish what Bush started. - bowser - 6/5/2012 6:49:12 PM

It must be just me. - bowser - 6/3/2012 7:08:01 PM
- Nope. On this one I'm on your side. - TB - 6/3/2012 8:08:48 PM

Latest creationism poll - TB - 6/2/2012 2:40:31 PM
- Crosstab: Creationism vs. Voodoo Economics - Robert - 6/2/2012 7:45:09 PM
  - Let's talk serious crosstabbing. - TB - 6/3/2012 6:05:46 AM
  - Not at all surprising but still interesting. - BuckGalaxy - 6/3/2012 1:34:40 AM
  - You were supposed to notice that pattern. - TB - 6/2/2012 8:21:56 PM
    - Re: You were supposed to notice that pattern. - Jody - 6/3/2012 2:54:01 AM
    - That's ironic in the context of a thread about creationism - Robert - 6/3/2012 1:31:13 AM
      - Incidentally... - TB - 6/3/2012 5:12:29 AM
      - I've studied the unreasoned "dark ages" of the past century. - TB - 6/3/2012 3:48:06 AM
- Scary. - bowser - 6/2/2012 4:28:33 PM
  - Re: Scary. - Jody - 6/2/2012 6:14:06 PM
    - So what? - bowser - 6/2/2012 8:11:02 PM
  - It's in the article - TB - 6/2/2012 4:33:19 PM

A good Christian argument against Darwin. - bowser - 6/2/2012 7:39:50 PM
- A technical point - Robert - 6/2/2012 9:08:39 PM
  - Sharpening it a little. - bowser - 6/2/2012 11:10:00 PM
  - If you really wanted to make sure a set of ideas was taken out of the gene pool... - TB - 6/2/2012 9:28:04 PM
    - I think this is an idea one would want to encourage. - bowser - 6/2/2012 11:10:42 PM
      - Uhhh, bowser... - Robert - 6/3/2012 1:25:19 AM
        
        TB dropped a comment regarding abortion, keeping it politically neutral. - bowser - 6/3/2012 5:19:43 AM
        
        Re: Uhhh, bowser... - TB - 6/3/2012 3:49:21 AM
- Re: A good Christian argument against Darwin. - Jody - 6/2/2012 7:50:30 PM

Jes sayin' II - Jody - 5/30/2012 12:10:38 AM
- Hmmmm. - TB - 5/30/2012 12:16:41 AM
  - TB, you have to be forced, even to act in your own welfare. - bowser - 5/31/2012 6:14:54 AM
    - Heh. - TB - 5/31/2012 2:04:19 PM
      - Didya read the part about dogs, morality and Conservatives. - bowser - 5/31/2012 3:55:45 PM
      - Re: Heh. - Jody - 5/31/2012 3:37:13 PM
        
        Now, check -this story- out. - TB - 6/1/2012 8:32:56 PM
        
        Re: Now, check -this story- out. - Jody - 6/2/2012 6:12:55 PM
  - Re: Hmmmm. - Jody - 5/30/2012 6:22:29 PM
  - I read that, and I didn't see race mentioned at all. And besides - - - - bowser - 5/30/2012 1:08:54 AM
    - That may be one theoretical definition of "liberalism." - TB - 5/30/2012 3:26:33 AM
      - The world is a community. Not just a bunch of wealthy people. - bowser - 6/1/2012 11:52:16 PM
        
        The idea of a country run by totalitarian thugs who claim to be doing it all for The People has been tried. - TB - 6/2/2012 12:38:26 AM
        
        There are qualities which makes man a Human. - bowser - 6/2/2012 7:58:17 PM
        
        Re: There are qualities which makes man a Human. - TB - 6/2/2012 8:13:27 PM
        
        That is quite possibly the most irrational thing I have ever read. - bowser - 6/2/2012 11:14:44 PM

Cut taxes, then borrow money to start and fight two wars. - bowser - 5/31/2012 4:43:35 PM
- Let's try this again. - TB - 5/31/2012 5:28:54 PM
  - Plain English. Easy questions. Cut taxes, start wars, borrow money, who is supposed to pay for those? - bowser - 5/31/2012 7:39:00 PM
    - It's actually kind of fascinating to watch this process. - TB - 5/31/2012 7:54:03 PM
      - Now I'm supposed to insult your intelligence by assuming you believe yourself??!! - bowser - 5/31/2012 10:47:33 PM
        
        Re: Now I'm supposed to insult your intelligence by assuming you believe yourself??!! - TB - 6/1/2012 4:30:21 AM

What to do about gun violence? - RobVG - 5/31/2012 1:58:12 AM
- Lock and Key. - RobVG - 5/31/2012 3:17:28 PM
- It's impossible - too many folks need them for self-esteem. But, it could be started. - bowser - 5/31/2012 6:30:45 AM
- Re: What to do about gun violence? - Jody - 5/31/2012 3:26:40 AM
  - Last week a man was killed here by getting in the cross-fire. - RobVG - 5/31/2012 3:42:02 AM
- My Card - ER - 5/31/2012 2:59:39 AM

Climate change can bring down civilizations - RobVG - 5/30/2012 2:30:15 AM
- I wasn't aware that that's a controversial proposition. - Robert - 5/30/2012 6:47:34 PM
  - Re: I wasn't aware that that's a controversial proposition. - TB - 5/30/2012 7:02:30 PM

Getting serious for a moment. - bowser - 5/28/2012 7:07:11 AM
- Re: Getting serious for a moment. - Jody - 5/28/2012 7:00:38 PM
  - You had to hate Bush and Cheney, then. - bowser - 5/28/2012 8:39:28 PM
    - Re: You had to hate Bush and Cheney, then. - Jody - 5/29/2012 3:03:10 AM
      - Democrats character is everything, apparently. - bowser - 5/29/2012 3:24:13 AM
        
        Re: Democrats character is everything, apparently. - Jody - 5/29/2012 3:35:19 AM
        
        Re: Democrats character is everything, apparently. - TB - 5/29/2012 3:42:47 AM
        
        What is difficult? - bowser - 5/29/2012 5:06:28 AM
        
        Re: What is difficult? - Jody - 5/29/2012 3:26:21 PM
        
        And of course, there's sheer neutronium-level density. - TB - 5/29/2012 3:11:57 PM
        
        They just can't bring themselves to the logical conclusion- it was a lie. n/t - RobVG - 5/30/2012 2:41:52 AM
        
        God knows Obama wouldn't be the first author who baked his own biography to order. - TB - 5/30/2012 3:30:12 AM
        
        They wouldn't know..... n/t - RobVG - 5/30/2012 3:56:10 AM
  - Re: Getting serious for a moment. - Jody - 5/28/2012 8:04:09 PM
    - Welcome back! - Robert - 5/28/2012 9:51:33 PM
      - Re: Welcome back! - Jody - 5/28/2012 10:23:27 PM
- As always, you totally ignore the substantive criticisms. n/t - RobVG - 5/28/2012 5:07:38 PM
  - I'm not talking about disagreements over policy. Those are valid. - bowser - 5/28/2012 5:17:29 PM
    - Significant Democratic issues on Romney to date: - TB - 5/28/2012 6:40:49 PM
      - I think I said that was all the R's had on Obama. I know that's what I said. - bowser - 5/29/2012 12:00:33 AM
    - Just remember, "these Republicans" are a subset. n/t - RobVG - 5/28/2012 5:49:56 PM
      - I should have made that clearer. It's a tiered system. - bowser - 5/28/2012 6:57:21 PM
        
        You began with a flame and ended with a decent post. Thanks n/t - RobVG - 5/29/2012 2:33:22 AM
      - But how big a subset? - Robert - 5/28/2012 6:40:44 PM
        
        Nearly 50% of US voters are moderates - RobVG - 5/28/2012 7:06:49 PM
        
        50% are liberal and 50% are conservative - Robert - 5/28/2012 9:49:06 PM
        
        Do I actually have to import the damn chart? - TB - 5/28/2012 9:53:04 PM
        
        Almost missed you subtly trying to derail the conversation - Robert - 5/29/2012 2:13:13 AM
        
        I think you're flattering this discussion. - TB - 5/29/2012 3:14:57 AM
        
        I think you're evading the issue - Robert - 5/29/2012 3:19:21 PM
        
        "Radical??" Are you people even listening to yourselves? - TB - 5/29/2012 5:25:31 PM
        
        Percentages - TB - 5/28/2012 7:12:16 PM
- Re: Getting serious for a moment. - Jody - 5/28/2012 4:47:15 PM
  - Not to worry. - bowser - 5/28/2012 5:15:21 PM
  - Re: Getting serious for a moment. - Jody - 5/28/2012 4:49:15 PM
    - Re: Getting serious for a moment. - Jody - 5/28/2012 5:19:27 PM
    - Don't roll over on your back. - RobVG - 5/28/2012 5:14:42 PM

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