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Robert — 9/15/2003 3:25:02 PM (archived)

You put it very well, Lee, and I built on your post to reply to Mark and SM. This is all about politics, not engineering; not about the future, but about fixing what's broken today.

Another observation the CAIB report made over and over is that the Shuttle was by no means operational as NASA liked to think; it's still an experimental vehicle. We haven't yet achieved routine operations in LEO, and we have no chance at all of getting back to the Moon, let alone advancing to Mars, until we deal with that sad reality.

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Bill to restore vision for Human spaceflight - Delbert - 9/12/2003 10:58:03 PM
- CAIB Report roots - Robert - 9/15/2003 12:28:34 AM
  - Begin With The End In Mind - Steven Covey - Mark Eby - 9/17/2003 1:24:42 PM
    - The end in mind - Robert - 9/17/2003 3:11:34 PM
      - For Each And Every Truism There Is An Equal And Opposite Truism ;-) - Mark Eby - 9/17/2003 4:05:24 PM
  - re: Don't take this personally - just noticed your 1st person perspective - Success_Machine - 9/15/2003 1:00:36 PM
    - What's the "we" crap, Kemosabe? - Robert - 9/15/2003 3:18:42 PM
      - Which is why we need a generic space program. - Lee - 9/15/2003 6:24:22 PM
        
        re: a generic space program. - Tom Brosz - 9/16/2003 1:38:41 AM
        
        Only as far as England? - nick Hoffman - 9/16/2003 3:23:45 PM
        
        Dead On Nick - But Few Seem To Have Got It - Mark Eby - 9/17/2003 1:29:37 PM
        
        The heart of the matter - Robert - 9/15/2003 7:31:30 PM
        
        Now this is an enjoyable conversation. - Lee - 9/16/2003 4:27:00 AM
        
        Yes it is - Robert - 9/16/2003 5:25:48 PM
        
        You Just Gave Several Good Example Of Why One Size Does Not Fit All - Mark Eby - 9/17/2003 1:57:47 PM
        
        But isn't that what you're saying? - Robert - 9/17/2003 3:23:34 PM
        
        No - Mark Eby - 9/17/2003 3:52:50 PM
        
        I think we're on the same wavelength. - Lee - 9/18/2003 4:11:51 AM
        
        I thought about showing a picture of Discovery, - Lee - 9/17/2003 3:40:05 AM
        
        re: The heart of the matter - Delbert - 9/15/2003 7:44:14 PM
        
        Yes - Robert - 9/15/2003 8:01:43 PM
        
        re: Let me restate my question - Success_Machine - 9/16/2003 1:24:59 AM
        
        'We' is a concept, not a number (n/t) - Robert - 9/16/2003 3:13:12 AM
        
        re: Spacefaring civilization is also a concept - Success_Machine - 9/16/2003 3:54:32 AM
        
        The most profound concept - Robert - 9/16/2003 5:00:53 PM
        
        Here's a few thoughts to kick around. - Lee - 9/16/2003 4:44:53 AM
        
        Counting me, at least two. ;) (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/16/2003 1:39:52 AM
  - The good thing about baby steps - Lee - 9/15/2003 5:30:23 AM
    - Exactly - Robert - 9/15/2003 3:25:02 PM
      - Saturn V Was Far More Experimental Than Shuttle - Mark Eby - 9/17/2003 1:17:35 PM
  - The Problem With Baby Steps Is Risk Of Incompletion - Mark Eby - 9/15/2003 3:50:28 AM
    - How to cook a lobster - Robert - 9/15/2003 3:09:50 PM
      - Not The Way To Go If You Care About The Deficit - Mark Eby - 9/17/2003 12:55:41 PM
        
        PS For Tom - Mark Eby - 9/17/2003 1:00:31 PM
- re: I have a better idea of a technological challenge - Success_Machine - 9/14/2003 1:23:50 PM
- This Is The Problem When You Have Politicians Set Technical Goals - Mark Eby - 9/13/2003 12:08:43 AM
  - You don't get it - Tom Brosz - 9/13/2003 2:19:40 AM
    - Mark is not the only one - E.P. Grondine - 9/13/2003 5:25:54 PM
    - I wouldn't even mind baby steps, - Lee - 9/13/2003 5:06:20 AM
      - Lee's got a point. How many times do we have to learn how to walk, anyway? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/13/2003 5:12:12 AM
    - Extremely Faulty Conclusion - Mark Eby - 9/13/2003 2:50:07 AM
      - Note carefully Mark's complete inability to perceive the obvious - E.P. Grondine - 9/13/2003 5:29:56 PM
        
        No, It's Relatively Easy to Spot Your Obvious Errors - Mark Eby - 9/13/2003 7:57:57 PM
      - re: Extremely Faulty Conclusion - Tom Brosz - 9/13/2003 3:17:23 AM

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