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You're being silly.

Bowser — 7/30/2004 12:16:05 PM (archived)

War tends to be glamorized, and kids don't understand. Some people worship folks such as those great conservatives John Wayne and Arnold Schwartznegger (sp?) who dramatize it in such a way as to appeal to the immature.

And, I suppose, there is no way to understand it from afar. However, the person in a real war can see for themselves and learn.

And when that person sees the purpose wasn't noble, as it wasn't in Vietnam or Iraq, and that the suffering was a waste, that individuals, families, and villages were wiped out for no good reason except that in 'Nam a couple of American presidents didn't want to quit, or in Iraq the megalomania of another one develops even another perspective.

As St. Paul said, sort of, "When I was a child I had the interests of a child, and as an adult I had the interests of an adult."

Regarding war, some people never make the transition to adulthood.

Arf

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War requires sacrifice - Neocons want none - Art Martin - 7/29/2004 2:51:57 AM
- Reality. It's a new world and it's an old world. - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/5/2004 1:38:41 AM
  - re: Reality. It's a new world and it's an old world. - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/5/2004 9:20:31 AM
  - re: Reality. It's a new world and it's an old world. - Art Martin - 8/5/2004 5:02:19 AM
- Have you checked lately to see who is doing all the whining? - Tom Brosz - 7/29/2004 4:08:29 AM
  - re: Have you checked lately to see who is doing all the whining? - REB - 7/30/2004 3:05:37 PM
    - re: The most important matter..... - Raoul - 7/30/2004 6:32:09 PM
      - Okay, so even by your assumptions they now have one chance in four. Before, it was zero. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 7/30/2004 10:59:29 PM
  - re: How about.... - Raoul - 7/29/2004 9:20:55 PM
    - Not victims - Tom Brosz - 7/29/2004 10:13:31 PM
      - re: A handful= very few, isn't it? (n/t) - Raoul - 7/30/2004 4:37:38 PM
        
        "Handful" was the reporter's editorial comment. - Tom Brosz - 7/30/2004 5:59:43 PM
      - Tom, do you have children? - Art Martin - 7/29/2004 10:29:29 PM
        
        Two. - Tom Brosz - 7/30/2004 12:18:48 AM
        
        Same here - REB - 7/30/2004 3:41:13 PM
    - My military service wasn't about war - Art Martin - 7/29/2004 10:03:39 PM
      - Neocons as wanna-be soldiers? - Lindy - 7/31/2004 6:31:31 PM
      - It's not just an adventure - it's a job (n/t) - Fox - 7/30/2004 3:31:26 AM
      - There are still a hell of a lot of people enlisting right now. Are they assuming that the military has nothing to do with combat, too? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 7/30/2004 12:30:21 AM
        
        They do not understand. They listen to people like you, who don't understand. (n/t) - Bowser - 7/30/2004 3:56:07 AM
        
        Plus: - Mary Anne - 7/31/2004 3:54:43 AM
        
        Cripes. You too? - Tom Brosz - 7/31/2004 4:24:27 AM
        
        Oh, cripes yourself. - Mary Anne - 7/31/2004 4:42:59 PM
        
        re: Oh, cripes yourself. - Tom Brosz - 8/1/2004 2:31:22 AM
        
        You forget who I work with. - Mary Anne - 8/2/2004 4:05:28 AM
        
        re: You forget who I work with. - gbaikie - 8/3/2004 1:07:01 AM
        
        I never suggested the voting age be raised in the first place. - Mary Anne - 8/5/2004 12:55:22 PM
        
        Maybe both the enlistment AND the voting age should be raised. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/3/2004 4:54:09 AM
        
        Remember 1971? - Fox - 8/4/2004 8:27:39 PM
        
        Surprised nobody thought of it back then. - Tom Brosz - 8/5/2004 4:56:40 AM
        
        Surprised? Shouldn't be. The phrase is "cannon fodder" - Fox - 8/6/2004 2:26:37 AM
        
        re: Maybe both the enlistment AND the voting age should be raised. - SDG - 8/3/2004 8:27:48 PM
        
        Caution - Tom Brosz - 8/3/2004 10:56:54 PM
        
        re: Caution - SDG - 8/4/2004 12:09:46 AM
        
        In other words, you think they're idiots too. - Tom Brosz - 7/30/2004 4:58:09 AM
        
        You're being silly. - Bowser - 7/30/2004 12:16:05 PM
        
        You might want to stop digging. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 7/30/2004 5:53:58 PM
        
        And that's as childish as you've been in a long time. - Bowser - 7/31/2004 12:38:03 AM
        
        Really? - Tom Brosz - 7/31/2004 3:49:43 AM
        
        re: Ah, Really? - Raoul - 7/31/2004 5:53:59 PM
  - So Saudi Arabia is next on your hit list Tom? - Art Martin - 7/29/2004 3:25:33 PM
    - just curious - SDG - 8/3/2004 6:09:08 PM
      - re: just curious - Art Martin - 8/4/2004 12:19:27 AM
- Sure they do - just not their own. - Fox - 7/29/2004 3:52:03 AM
- Shrug your shoulders and move on if you want - Lee - 7/29/2004 3:47:09 AM
  - UFOlogy - Fox - 7/29/2004 4:18:25 AM
    - A bit from Lileks today on paranoia... - Tom Brosz - 7/29/2004 6:19:42 AM
      - Add Lileks to the list of morons... - alcaray - 7/29/2004 3:45:16 PM
        
        Do you honestly think... - Tom Brosz - 7/29/2004 4:10:42 PM
        
        I know... - alcaray - 7/29/2004 6:27:09 PM
        
        re: I know... - Tom Brosz - 7/29/2004 7:01:52 PM
      - Maybe you should marry Lileks. I could care less what the moron thinks. (n/t) - Art Martin - 7/29/2004 3:27:35 PM
    - re: UFOlogy - Tom Brosz - 7/29/2004 6:05:27 AM
    - Ah yes, the Who, paragons of the Democratic party. - Lee - 7/29/2004 4:44:40 AM
      - You, of course, prefer the "Horst Wessel Lied" - Fox - 7/30/2004 11:17:30 PM
        
        And people critcize me for obscure references. (n/t) - Lee - 7/31/2004 4:16:58 AM
        
        Rough translation is that he's calling you a Nazi again. - Tom Brosz - 8/2/2004 1:31:33 AM
        
        Learning "the lessons of history" is easier if you learn the history . . . - Fox - 8/1/2004 10:22:48 PM
        
        Or where the mistakes were made. - Lee - 8/2/2004 6:38:01 AM
        
        Okay, Lee. Getting creepy again. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/3/2004 5:32:36 AM
        
        Guess I saw one too many Vincent Price movies growing up. - Lee - 8/3/2004 7:04:08 AM
        
        No, your humor tends to the ignorant neonazi side... - R.L. - 8/3/2004 9:00:56 AM
        
        And your omnipotent messianic personality is a bit of a bore. - Lee - 8/3/2004 8:00:06 PM

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