re: Everyone believes in something and

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re: Everyone believes in something and

Johannes — 1/2/2005 12:14:46 AM (archived)

Sometimes that belief is based on something that can not be verified.

For instance if you believe that the "big bang" theory is correct, then you have several options for believing WHERE the space, mass, and energy came from and none of those theories can be "proven". Can anyone "prove" that mass has existed forever and will continue to do so? Can anyone "prove" that a creator does not exist?

My favorite "belief" is that space, mass, and energy were "created", and that "creation" happened seven "universal days" ago. A "universal day" is the time required for the universe to "begin" from a homogenous space/mass mixture (dark/night) go to the compressed state just before the big bang (light/day) and then expand again to the "maximum" point where the expansion stops and the "big crunch" begins.

If you can "prove" that this idea is wrong then please do so, I am willing to change my belief.

Johannes

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Tibetan Monks Remote View World's Dramatic Future - Lindy - 12/27/2004 5:21:42 PM
- How do people gain spiritual comfort from such doom and gloom bunk? - Scott Evil - 1/3/2005 6:37:24 PM
- 'Troubles ahead' is news? (n/t) - ebnelson - 12/29/2004 10:53:14 PM
- "Remote viewing Tibetan monks see Extra Terrestrial powers saving the World from destroying itself in 2012" - David F Mayer - 12/29/2004 5:52:01 PM
- Why do you believe this nonsense? (n/t) - R.L. - 12/28/2004 11:46:52 AM
  - re: Everyone believes in something and - Johannes - 1/2/2005 12:14:46 AM
  - A large majority of the world's population believes "such nonsense" - alcaray - 12/28/2004 7:04:58 PM
    - For the record... - Tom Brosz - 12/30/2004 12:06:50 AM
      - Sure their is Isiah and a slew of other prophets as well (n/t) - alcaray - 12/30/2004 4:04:09 PM
    - A large majority of the world's population is ignorant of Science (n/t) - David F Mayer - 12/29/2004 6:03:00 PM
      - Fine, then: a majority of people in the world who are not ignorant of science believe such "nonsense". (n/t) - alcaray - 12/29/2004 7:12:16 PM
        
        False. Belief in such nonsense is apodictic proof of ignorance of Science. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 12/30/2004 7:42:06 AM
        
        You want to explain Einstein's religious beliefs to me? (n/t) - alcaray - 12/30/2004 4:02:51 PM
        
        Not sure Einstein could explain his own religious beliefs. ;) (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 12/30/2004 6:29:41 PM
        
        Point: scientists can be Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, new agers, etc. - alcaray - 12/30/2004 7:20:07 PM
        
        Both points are true, but... - R.L. - 12/30/2004 9:01:46 PM
        
        Visions of Tibetan Monks are now "garbage"? - Lindy - 12/31/2004 12:10:20 AM
        
        Right! You wrote: "I'll bet this is garbage to you too. Because it's unverifiable." That MAKES it garbage. - David F Mayer - 12/31/2004 6:59:38 AM
        
        Yup.... see, you CAN learn, can't you?! - R.L. - 12/31/2004 1:11:13 AM
        
        Smart Ass - Lindy - 12/31/2004 2:21:47 AM
        
        You wrote: "Seeing as how the Vatican and many other religious followers have taken the Virgin Mary sightings at Medjugorje as a sign from the heavens, why do you have to make fun of it? Of them? Of… - David F Mayer - 12/31/2004 7:03:18 AM
        
        Ah, thus you must believe in ALL the vatican's teachings- otherwise you are equally dismissive of those that believe - R.L. - 12/31/2004 2:45:17 AM
        
        Whaaat? You assume wrong. - Lindy - 12/31/2004 5:14:59 AM
        
        So you just believe religious visions and not the religions? - R.L. - 1/1/2005 2:45:29 AM
        
        Aren't we all looking for "proof"? (n/t) - Lindy - 1/1/2005 9:28:51 AM
        
        Aren't we all looking for "proof"? (n/t) - Lindy - 1/1/2005 9:28:42 AM
        
        Anthropology is also a science - Fox - 12/30/2004 10:30:38 PM
        
        So when someone posts nonsense it is wrong to call it nonsense? - R.L. - 12/30/2004 11:24:06 PM
        
        re: When someone posts nonsense - Fox - 12/31/2004 1:18:33 AM
        
        See my reply in 'Community'- not wanting a flame war - R.L. - 12/31/2004 1:35:28 AM
        
        re: not wanting a flame war - Fox - 12/31/2004 1:58:54 AM
        
        Like I said - Davin L. - 12/31/2004 5:14:36 PM
        
        apologies to both of you - Fox - 1/1/2005 6:21:48 AM
        
        Some guy said some other guys said... Sounds like the pastor in the church I live next door to. (n/t) - alcaray - 12/30/2004 9:49:45 PM
        
        And furthermore... - R.L. - 12/30/2004 11:21:07 PM
        
        Yeah, and in the magic of logos..... - Publius - 1/2/2005 3:54:41 PM
        
        re: Yeah, and in the magic of logos..... - Lindy - 1/2/2005 6:22:33 PM
        
        Jeez, it was a joke - your statement sounded like a description of someone preaching the New Testament - alcaray - 12/30/2004 11:41:17 PM
        
        Ah, I see, so since a lot of people believe in nonsense any nonsense posted here should not be challenged... sounds like a SWELL idea! (n/t) - R.L. - 12/30/2004 11:12:30 PM
        
        No. - alcaray - 12/30/2004 11:37:24 PM
        
        I dont see many christians here spouting bible verses here... - R.L. - 12/30/2004 11:54:59 PM
        
        In other words, you took it personally, and consequently dish it out personally. (n/t) - Fox - 12/31/2004 1:22:09 AM
        
        No, that was neither stated nor implied... - R.L. - 12/31/2004 1:45:43 AM
      - Science? - Lindy - 12/29/2004 6:43:59 PM
        
        Common sense, Lindy. - Tom Brosz - 12/29/2004 8:43:05 PM
        
        As publius always says "The one thing about common sense is that it is so uncommon". - Lindy - 12/29/2004 9:37:21 PM
        
        90% were identified. The rest had insufficient data to be identified. So what? (n/t) - David F Mayer - 12/30/2004 7:44:17 AM
        
        re: As publius always says "The one thing about common sense is that it is so uncommon". - p - 12/29/2004 11:36:03 PM
        
        You ignored oxytocin.................................... (n/t) - Publius - 1/2/2005 3:48:13 PM
        
        When loony new age nonsense is able to build a spacecraft and calculate its orbit then we can talk... - R.L. - 12/29/2004 8:14:02 PM
        
        re: Science? as opposed to WHAT??? - phil - 12/29/2004 6:57:05 PM
  - Believe? - Lindy - 12/28/2004 4:14:40 PM
    - "Toy Story" was a good movie, too. - Tom Brosz - 12/28/2004 8:11:55 PM
- typical loserville philosophy - phil - 12/27/2004 9:27:12 PM
- The invisible leprechauns living under my bed disagree... - Tom Brosz - 12/27/2004 9:03:37 PM
  - And what will happen when you let the Fairies come out of the closet? (n/t) - Publius - 12/30/2004 7:47:48 PM
  - leprechauns under the bed? - Daniel - 12/28/2004 12:05:47 AM
    - re: leprechauns are capitalist. - Tom Brosz - 12/28/2004 12:57:41 AM
      - So you say they are harboring Weapons of Bed Destruction!? Lets Invade!!! - Davin L. - 12/29/2004 9:12:06 PM
        
        If I can detect a MOAB going off under my bed, does that make me a princess or something? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 12/29/2004 9:17:33 PM
        
        If there is more going on under your bed than on top of it, as you suggest......... - Publius - 1/1/2005 4:22:23 PM
        
        Yeah, you try getting some action with a load of hard-drinking leprechauns under your bed. - Tom Brosz - 1/1/2005 11:11:00 PM
        
        Now I understand.............. - Publius - 1/2/2005 3:46:26 PM
        
        re: Now I understand.............. - Tom Brosz - 1/2/2005 7:46:06 PM
        
        I hear that they are so surgical that you could not. (n/t) - alcaray - 12/29/2004 11:30:03 PM
      - begorrah! (n/t) - D. - 12/28/2004 1:26:52 AM
  - As do the Biblical prophets... - alcaray - 12/27/2004 9:58:14 PM
    - Well, the more obscure pagan gods offer us a reprieve. - Mary Anne - 12/28/2004 2:16:47 AM
      - re: Well, the more obscure pagan gods offer us a reprieve. - ebnelson - 12/29/2004 10:51:36 PM

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