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re: More fallout from Newsweek's screwup

Davin L. — 5/16/2005 9:50:21 PM (archived)

Davin, they trust us even less than they did before, thanks to Newsweek. This should piss you off.

REB, there is a LOT that pisses me off about the state of world affairs. Newsweek getting burned by a reliable source and retreacting is the LEAST of my worries.

You can't say 'Newsweek screwed up because they were wrong'. Journalistic organizations are fallible by nature. They are 'screwing up' only if they don't go through some procedure to check the veracity of their sources. It appears (at least if they are telling the truth about it) that they checked their source twice before publication.

If you can show that they fell short of Due Diligence, then make a case. Your original claim, recall, was that they made something up. Its apparent that they didn't, and that their original souce screwed them. If YOU want to blame someone, then blame that person and insist that the DOD/Pentegon find him and punish him and stick him in some dungeon somewhere.

If you want a 'pissed off' from me ion this, then there you go. I'm pissed off that someone who should have known better lied.

Davin L.

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Newsweek does it again. - Tom Brosz - 5/15/2005 10:25:26 PM
- I find it amazing..... - Lindy - 5/20/2005 3:32:13 PM
  - re: I find it amazing..... - Tom Brosz - 5/20/2005 4:50:03 PM
- More from Mudville Gazette - Tom Brosz - 5/18/2005 5:43:25 AM
- Simple engineering test disproves Newsweek's contention - p - 5/17/2005 6:22:16 PM
  - You know, if anyone wants to bet me... - alcaray - 5/19/2005 10:42:43 PM
  - Red herring. Not the real issue. - Tom Brosz - 5/17/2005 8:40:40 PM
    - OMG! - p - 5/17/2005 9:11:45 PM
      - re: OMG! - Tom Brosz - 5/17/2005 9:22:02 PM
        
        Including one post on this thread........;-) (n/t) - Tony - 5/17/2005 9:40:41 PM
  - Simple english test - Tony - 5/17/2005 7:12:08 PM
  - Didn't anyone at Newsweek have the brains to question this? - Larry J - 5/17/2005 6:41:32 PM
    - Ten bonus points to Larry for getting this week's catchphrase in the post. (n/t) - Tony - 5/17/2005 7:00:25 PM
      - Too bad the catch phrase just happens to be true this time - Larry J - 5/17/2005 9:53:03 PM
      - This week's catchphrase - Tom Brosz - 5/17/2005 8:43:07 PM
        
        I don't believe Newsweek thought at all - Larry J - 5/17/2005 9:51:48 PM
        
        re: I don't believe you think at all - tony - 5/18/2005 1:18:27 AM
        
        Look in the mirror... - Larry J - 5/18/2005 1:20:26 PM
        
        Aint me who trots out latest talking points like they were original thgoughts..... - Tony - 5/18/2005 1:24:14 PM
- Newsweek offers reparations - p - 5/16/2005 8:21:46 PM
  - Newsweek officially retracts story - Sam F. - 5/17/2005 8:41:15 AM
- re: Newsweek does it again. - REB - 5/16/2005 7:20:31 PM
  - "Thanks a lot Newsweek. There is blood on your hands." - David F Mayer - 5/17/2005 5:39:24 PM
    - Sold more magazines.... - Tony - 5/17/2005 7:01:47 PM
      - It got them publicity. More magazines WILL be sold. - David F Mayer - 5/18/2005 1:30:24 PM
        
        For this to work..... - Tony - 5/18/2005 2:58:52 PM
        
        They were testing the waters. - David F Mayer - 5/19/2005 12:08:32 PM
  - Keep your outrage consistent with the facts, at least... - Davin L. - 5/16/2005 8:36:00 PM
    - Then they should expose the source. - Scott Evil - 5/16/2005 10:35:27 PM
      - I agree with one thing you said: - DL - 5/16/2005 10:43:10 PM
        
        This may be a 1st... Lets not keep that streak going! - Scott Evil - 5/16/2005 10:49:31 PM
    - Facts: Like Newsweek saying US troops burned the Koren (Qur'an) when they did not, which results in Afgan violence. - REB - 5/16/2005 8:57:38 PM
      - LOL Now book burning is up there with death, torture and rape? - Lindy - 5/17/2005 2:32:29 AM
        
        You don't understand the fanatical asshles who are out there. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 5/17/2005 5:40:18 PM
      - Wow, REB. Get the facts straight- it was about flushing the Koran/Qua'ran/Qur'an in a john (plus, I love the Irony) - Davin L, - 5/16/2005 9:08:27 PM
        
        Yes, Newsweek falsely claimed American troops had flushed the Koran down the toilet. I was thinking burned. You got me there you. - REB - 5/16/2005 9:27:13 PM
        
        How do you flush the koran down the toilet? That's a pretty thick wad of paper. - SDF - 5/17/2005 3:53:37 PM
        
        More bullpuckey, with a strawman argument thrown in to boot- AND a challenge to my patriotism - Davin L. - 5/16/2005 9:40:12 PM
        
        You are still trying to draw this argument away from the fact Newsweek screwed up which has caused violence in Afgan and hurt the US/Afgan relationship. - REB - 5/16/2005 9:45:42 PM
        
        LOL. No, your trying to draw this away from the fact - Davin L. - 5/16/2005 9:53:29 PM
    - correction - Davin L. - 5/16/2005 8:56:23 PM
      - Whatever. They caused violence in Afghanistan based on untruiths. - REB - 5/16/2005 8:59:37 PM
        
        No, all the OTHER, confirmed, reports are doing this- not newsweek - Davin L. - 5/16/2005 9:22:58 PM
        
        re: No, all the OTHER, confirmed, reports are doing this- not newsweek - Tom Brosz - 5/16/2005 9:46:01 PM
        
        I know! Why don't we discuss and debate what I said, not about what you WANT me to be saying!? - Davin L. - 5/16/2005 10:04:43 PM
        
        re: discuss and debate what I said - Tom Brosz - 5/16/2005 11:15:45 PM
        
        re: discuss and debate what I said - Davin L. - 5/17/2005 1:05:26 AM
        
        re: Media goals - Tom Brosz - 5/17/2005 4:29:04 AM
        
        Are you sure you want to get int the middle of this pissing contest, Tom? - REB - 5/16/2005 9:51:57 PM
        
        ROFL! (n/t) - SDAI-Tech1 - 5/17/2005 4:37:16 AM
        
        More fallout from Newsweek's screwup - REB - 5/16/2005 9:36:53 PM
        
        re: More fallout from Newsweek's screwup - Davin L. - 5/16/2005 9:50:21 PM
        
        "Whatever" ??? Is that like saying 'Fake but accurate' WRT your position on this?? Also, what about your double standard: - Davin L. - 5/16/2005 9:10:21 PM
        
        No, â€œWhateverâ€ is blowing off your rambling... - REB - 5/16/2005 9:32:13 PM
        
        So you can't defend yourself, except with bluster? - Davin L. - 5/16/2005 9:44:05 PM
        
        Defend myself against what? - REB - 5/16/2005 9:48:33 PM
        
        The fact that nothing you said has been accurate or factual - Davin L. - 5/16/2005 9:54:44 PM
  - re: Newsweek does it again. - p - 5/16/2005 7:52:25 PM
    - And what about your fake reporting of fake facts, not even remotely double checked? - Davin L. - 5/16/2005 9:25:40 PM
      - read your nutty brother's rants on the thread - p - 5/16/2005 10:03:05 PM
        
        Grow up, P - Davin L. - 5/16/2005 10:11:12 PM
        
        re: Grow up, P - p - 5/16/2005 11:59:22 PM
        
        Ohhh, now you have graduated to old TV serials for your insults - DL - 5/17/2005 1:15:33 AM
        
        re: Ohhh, now you have graduated to old TV serials for your insults - p - 5/17/2005 1:40:04 AM
        
        This is pointles. I've made my point to those who are capable of reason - DL - 5/17/2005 2:27:25 AM
        
        Oh, I forgot - DL - 5/16/2005 10:12:51 PM
- As someone else once said - Tony - 5/16/2005 5:13:06 PM
  - "False but accurate" the new MSM mantra (CBS, Newsweek...) (n/t) - p - 5/16/2005 7:48:35 PM
  - re: As someone else once said - Tom Brosz - 5/16/2005 5:32:37 PM
- Almost as bad as.... - Donald - 5/16/2005 1:53:24 PM
  - IOW, "Bush lied, soldiers died, taxpayers cried" - Sam F. - 5/16/2005 8:57:42 PM
- The story could be completely true and Newsweek would have had to do the same thing. (n/t) - Bowser - 5/16/2005 5:54:42 AM
  - So you think Newsweek is retracting the story just to sooth the Muslim rioters who can't handle the "truth"? - Scott Evil - 5/16/2005 1:55:13 PM
    - Blind hatred. - Bowser - 5/16/2005 3:32:00 PM
      - Why exactly do you think Newsweek had to retract the story (Assuming it was true)? - Scott Evil - 5/16/2005 6:11:21 PM
        
        The question asked was how you made that leap? - Bowser - 5/16/2005 8:15:29 PM
        
        re: go ahead and duck the question then Bigot. - Scott Evil - 5/16/2005 10:32:05 PM
  - re: The story - Tom Brosz - 5/16/2005 6:00:11 AM
- Religion - SDAI-Tech1 - 5/16/2005 4:15:01 AM
  - Stupidity within stupidity (I detest the MSM) - Gary - 5/16/2005 5:35:16 AM
- re: Newsweek does it again. - phil - 5/15/2005 10:37:24 PM

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