Hate is negative value of anything and love is the absolute value. All negative numbers have an absolute value. Once on understands this process of establishing absolute value - the negative and the absolute create a balance.
Religionists can't come to this equation because in their world "pure evil" and "pure good" exist and they haven't recognized how limited and wrong that is. The world is far more complex than presented by Pat Robertson.
The give and take of life is created by love/hate and positive/negative views. Storms are caused by the meeting of hot and cold fronts. Societies are built upon the conflicts of earlier days. All negatives have this positive or "absolute" quantity inherent to them.
Murder, destruction, death...and yes hate. It's up to us to "find the silver lining" or discover this absolute - when we do we balance this hatred. It's not a matter of suppressing hate, but realizing that if we hate something we have a narrow focus that is excluding the good.
An early math student who knows nothing of the absolute value of a number can't understand how -35 will equal 35, for them such a process doesn't exist yet. If I hate racists, I don't see how racism actually helps provide a contrast and bring about growth in others.
I know what you're getting at. Hate is normal reaction to an incomplete data set. Once one plugs in the other data the hate is put in context and no longer has any weight.
Balance. The universe tries to achieve it, we try to achieve it, even though it's never truly able to be achieved. Perhaps the greater balance exists because of the fluctuations. So we struggle as we encounter new ideas and different people. Eventually we master such struggles and we move on to new ones. Never ending opportunities to learn.
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I see hate as half an equation
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- Notice to newcomers [Originally Posted to Off-topic by R.L. on 9/4/2005 5:35:26 AM]
- Scream obscenities at the messenger all you want.
- I'm not moderator here.
- Well coming from someone who told him to bring down with both feet on me.
- I encouraged him to come down with both feet on *racism*.
- Very good Mary Anne * Humanity 101 * now in session
- "quintessential embodiment"
- You now regret you clicked "post" on that one... ;-)
- Not really
- "Hate doesn't kill people, people kill people"
- Are you really helpless before your emotions?
- a tutorial for an informed life. IE, the point Robert is trying to make and you are blindly dancing around without noticing is there
- For me, this grates like hearing people say newk-you-ler: it is "massage"
- Your reference to
- "Hate doesn't kill people, people kill people"
- Not really
- You now regret you clicked "post" on that one... ;-)
- Lee appears to hate people based on their race.
- I don't hate them, just apathetic.
- re: I don't hate them, just apathetic.
- re: I don't hate them, just apathetic.
- If they merit it, then yes. (n/t)
- Catch-22
- It is an EVIL way to look at the world.
- No, it's simply an ignorant way to look at the world
- The majority of Humanity
- You might not notice...
- So 3.3 billion people vanish....
- Hey, Frank ...
- Up until 70 years ago, my view was the majority view amongst the cream of society.
- I hope you're playing Devil's Advocate, Lee...
- No, he is not... (n/t)
- Walked right into that one, didn't you? (n/t)
- Thanks for reminding me, then, that we have made some progress in the last 70 years! Looks like you are good for something after-all (n/t)
- I hope you're playing Devil's Advocate, Lee...
- Up until 70 years ago, my view was the majority view amongst the cream of society.
- Hey, Frank ...
- The majority of Humanity
- No, it's simply an ignorant way to look at the world
- It is an EVIL way to look at the world.
- Catch-22
- If they merit it, then yes. (n/t)
- Is it really?
- I don't hate them, just apathetic.
- "quintessential embodiment"
- Don't worry about his words, I can handle Shaka Lafon.
- Very good Mary Anne * Humanity 101 * now in session
- I encouraged him to come down with both feet on *racism*.
- Well coming from someone who told him to bring down with both feet on me.
- I'm not moderator here.
- Meanwhile, the stench from New Orleans continues to rise. [Originally posted to Off-Topic by Lee on 9/4/2005 2:40:55 PM]
- Heh, heh. [Originally Posted to Off-Topic by Bowser on 9/4/2005 11:48:49 AM]
- re: Notice to newcomers - RL Sometimes Has Reading Problems [Originally Posted to Off-Topic by Mark Eby on 9/4/2005 10:24:49 AM]
- hey - go easy on the throwback [Originally Posted to Off-Topic by Daniel on 9/4/2005 8:17:48 AM]
- I meant that in a GOOD way.... [Originally Posted to Off-Topic by R.L. on 9/4/2005 6:53:15 AM] (n/t)
- Scream obscenities at the messenger all you want.