Hate is a temporary biochemical brain state. Like all emotion its ultimate truth is in its passing and that it does pass. A wise human ascribes the proper moral place to emotion- specifically next to none. A healthy human feels the feeling and is grateful for it, and does not judge it, and does not, like a cargo cult, give it more place then it should hold. Emotion is a medium, not the message of consciosness.
What matters, morally and ethically, is choice and action. What matters is not the state, but the transition. The verb is the thing, to butcher the poet. These things have moral and ethical import. Its these things that matter.
To try to criticize the feeling is like trying to criticize the shine of the sun. It simply is what it is, and it is beyond who and what we ultimately are:
the rational animal, who feels deeply.
The ultimate point which you miss is that trying to define a moral hierarchy to emotion is like trying to define a moral hierarchy to the planets- foolish and ignorant. In the end, they are the same things- natural phenomenon, things of beauty to be experienced, things of wonder to be investigated.
Hideous things are done for love, and for hate, and for fear, and for anger and for ....
In the end, its not the emotional state that they were done for, but what was done that matters in the moral and ethical sense.
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a tutorial for an informed life. IE, the point Robert is trying to make and you are blindly dancing around without noticing is there
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- Notice to newcomers [Originally Posted to Off-topic by R.L. on 9/4/2005 5:35:26 AM]
- Scream obscenities at the messenger all you want.
- I'm not moderator here.
- Well coming from someone who told him to bring down with both feet on me.
- I encouraged him to come down with both feet on *racism*.
- Very good Mary Anne * Humanity 101 * now in session
- "quintessential embodiment"
- You now regret you clicked "post" on that one... ;-)
- Not really
- "Hate doesn't kill people, people kill people"
- Are you really helpless before your emotions?
- a tutorial for an informed life. IE, the point Robert is trying to make and you are blindly dancing around without noticing is there
- For me, this grates like hearing people say newk-you-ler: it is "massage"
- Your reference to
- "Hate doesn't kill people, people kill people"
- Not really
- You now regret you clicked "post" on that one... ;-)
- Lee appears to hate people based on their race.
- I don't hate them, just apathetic.
- re: I don't hate them, just apathetic.
- re: I don't hate them, just apathetic.
- If they merit it, then yes. (n/t)
- Catch-22
- It is an EVIL way to look at the world.
- No, it's simply an ignorant way to look at the world
- The majority of Humanity
- You might not notice...
- So 3.3 billion people vanish....
- Hey, Frank ...
- Up until 70 years ago, my view was the majority view amongst the cream of society.
- I hope you're playing Devil's Advocate, Lee...
- No, he is not... (n/t)
- Walked right into that one, didn't you? (n/t)
- Thanks for reminding me, then, that we have made some progress in the last 70 years! Looks like you are good for something after-all (n/t)
- I hope you're playing Devil's Advocate, Lee...
- Up until 70 years ago, my view was the majority view amongst the cream of society.
- Hey, Frank ...
- The majority of Humanity
- No, it's simply an ignorant way to look at the world
- It is an EVIL way to look at the world.
- Catch-22
- If they merit it, then yes. (n/t)
- Is it really?
- I don't hate them, just apathetic.
- "quintessential embodiment"
- Don't worry about his words, I can handle Shaka Lafon.
- Very good Mary Anne * Humanity 101 * now in session
- I encouraged him to come down with both feet on *racism*.
- Well coming from someone who told him to bring down with both feet on me.
- I'm not moderator here.
- Meanwhile, the stench from New Orleans continues to rise. [Originally posted to Off-Topic by Lee on 9/4/2005 2:40:55 PM]
- Heh, heh. [Originally Posted to Off-Topic by Bowser on 9/4/2005 11:48:49 AM]
- re: Notice to newcomers - RL Sometimes Has Reading Problems [Originally Posted to Off-Topic by Mark Eby on 9/4/2005 10:24:49 AM]
- hey - go easy on the throwback [Originally Posted to Off-Topic by Daniel on 9/4/2005 8:17:48 AM]
- I meant that in a GOOD way.... [Originally Posted to Off-Topic by R.L. on 9/4/2005 6:53:15 AM] (n/t)
- Scream obscenities at the messenger all you want.
