Sorry, Charlie...

Mary Anne — 9/6/2005 4:07:20 AM (archived)

Not falling for the Context Of No Context canard.

Ideas don't exist in a vacuum. People own them, and without the person who owns the idea, it's nothing.

The frame for this discussion is made of the ideas that you, the speaker, have already expressed. You've already painted on this canvas, and I'm not going to pretend it's blank to humor you because I've already seen the picture.

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Notice to newcomers [Originally Posted to Off-topic by R.L. on 9/4/2005 5:35:26 AM] - ***Moved from Off-Topic by Mary Anne (mo - 9/5/2005 1:13:17 AM
- Scream obscenities at the messenger all you want. - Lee - 9/5/2005 2:53:25 AM
  - I'm not moderator here. - Mary Anne - 9/5/2005 3:26:47 AM
    - Well coming from someone who told him to bring down with both feet on me. - Lee - 9/5/2005 4:05:37 AM
      - I encouraged him to come down with both feet on *racism*. - Mary Anne - 9/5/2005 4:16:30 AM
        
        Very good Mary Anne * Humanity 101 * now in session - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/5/2005 4:38:07 AM
        
        "quintessential embodiment" - Robert - 9/5/2005 4:02:36 PM
        
        You now regret you clicked "post" on that one... ;-) - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/6/2005 2:13:44 AM
        
        Not really - Robert - 9/6/2005 3:27:38 AM
        
        "Hate doesn't kill people, people kill people" - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/6/2005 4:09:05 AM
        
        Are you really helpless before your emotions? - Robert - 9/6/2005 5:29:12 AM
        
        I see hate as half an equation - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/6/2005 6:05:44 AM
        
        re: I see hate as half an equation - Robert - 9/6/2005 6:09:52 PM
        
        a tutorial for an informed life. IE, the point Robert is trying to make and you are blindly dancing around without noticing is there - DL - 9/6/2005 4:36:21 AM
        
        For me, this grates like hearing people say newk-you-ler: it is "massage" - alcaray - 9/6/2005 9:57:36 PM
        
        Wasn't referring to the venerable Mr. Mcluhan. I was pointing out the difference between the experience of X and and the content of X. (n/t) - DL - 9/6/2005 10:58:24 PM
        
        "Medium is the message" wasn't an attempt at a Mcluhan quote? (n/t) - alcaray - 9/6/2005 11:00:40 PM
        
        What I said is Emotion is the medium, not the message of consciousness. - DL - 9/6/2005 11:51:23 PM
        
        If you ever catch me saying we are made of star-junk... - alcaray - 9/7/2005 5:49:47 PM
        
        A break down - DL - 9/7/2005 7:07:39 PM
        
        Jeez, Louize - alcaray - 9/7/2005 10:18:42 PM
        
        correction - DL - 9/7/2005 7:15:51 PM
        
        Yeesh, Al, My statement is 180deg and 5 miles away from McLuhan- have you read him (thinking it doesn't sound like you have)? Why are you giving me static on this? (n/t) - DL - 9/7/2005 6:48:13 PM
        
        Your reference to - Publius - 9/6/2005 2:00:57 PM
        
        Lee appears to hate people based on their race. - Mary Anne - 9/5/2005 4:45:02 AM
        
        I don't hate them, just apathetic. - Lee - 9/5/2005 5:10:39 AM
        
        re: I don't hate them, just apathetic. - McFly - 9/5/2005 11:22:25 PM
        
        re: I don't hate them, just apathetic. - Robert - 9/5/2005 5:33:40 AM
        
        If they merit it, then yes. (n/t) - Lee - 9/5/2005 8:44:09 AM
        
        Catch-22 - Robert - 9/5/2005 4:06:15 PM
        
        It is an EVIL way to look at the world. - R.L. - 9/5/2005 9:00:21 PM
        
        No, it's simply an ignorant way to look at the world - Robert - 9/5/2005 9:54:24 PM
        
        The majority of Humanity - Lee - 9/6/2005 1:13:30 AM
        
        You might not notice... - Robert - 9/6/2005 3:54:48 AM
        
        I've cursed on occasion in a thread, but I do try not to. - Lee - 9/6/2005 4:20:55 AM
        
        re: I've cursed on occasion in a thread, but I do try not to. - Robert - 9/6/2005 6:16:49 PM
        
        So 3.3 billion people vanish.... - FrankC - 9/6/2005 2:04:39 AM
        
        Hey, Frank ... - Fox - 9/6/2005 3:37:31 AM
        
        Up until 70 years ago, my view was the majority view amongst the cream of society. - Lee - 9/6/2005 4:28:36 AM
        
        I hope you're playing Devil's Advocate, Lee... - McFly - 9/8/2005 2:20:52 AM
        
        No, he is not... (n/t) - R.L. - 9/8/2005 4:57:51 AM
        
        Walked right into that one, didn't you? (n/t) - Robert - 9/6/2005 6:12:04 PM
        
        Yes, for one who pushes such a trivialized view of evolution, its ironic (n/t) - DL - 9/6/2005 6:22:42 PM
        
        Thanks for reminding me, then, that we have made some progress in the last 70 years! Looks like you are good for something after-all (n/t) - DL - 9/6/2005 4:41:09 AM
        
        It's just a political fad. (n/t) - Lee - 9/6/2005 4:51:04 AM
        
        No, You are obsolete. Your only weapon is the noise of your resentment, and the idiots you can prey upon - DL - 9/6/2005 5:04:47 AM
        
        When the SW erupts into bloodshed, we shall see. - Lee - 9/6/2005 6:37:46 AM
        
        I can understand a little better now - FrankC - 9/6/2005 3:58:39 PM
        
        Craig Venter started off as a blue collar. - Lee - 9/7/2005 6:08:09 AM
        
        blue collar exceptions - FrankC - 9/7/2005 6:44:05 PM
        
        Missed the punchline, didn't you Lee. (n/t) - DL - 9/7/2005 6:38:54 PM
        
        Lee's 'kind' are not known for their quick wit... (n/t) - R.L. - 9/8/2005 1:04:31 AM
        
        Wow, better not let Mary Anne know you stole her Ice Pick - DL - 9/7/2005 3:41:34 AM
        
        ROTFL - R.L. - 9/7/2005 1:12:18 AM
        
        Preaching that old dogma of Race War, eh lee? - DL - 9/6/2005 1:01:18 PM
        
        Ask the US Attorney General about it. - Lee - 9/7/2005 6:11:05 AM
        
        Is it really? - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/5/2005 4:54:56 AM
        
        nicely said - FrankC - 9/5/2005 5:04:46 AM
        
        Thanks Frank. - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/5/2005 6:14:27 AM
        
        Yes. - Mary Anne - 9/5/2005 5:04:27 AM
        
        Don't worry about his words, I can handle Shaka Lafon. - Lee - 9/5/2005 4:23:30 AM
        
        Well, he can certainly call you a racist now. Since you have admitted you are one. - Mary Anne - 9/5/2005 4:28:37 AM
- Meanwhile, the stench from New Orleans continues to rise. [Originally posted to Off-Topic by Lee on 9/4/2005 2:40:55 PM] - *Moved from Off-Topic by MA (moderator)* - 9/5/2005 1:47:08 AM
- Heh, heh. [Originally Posted to Off-Topic by Bowser on 9/4/2005 11:48:49 AM] - *Moved from Off-Topic by MA (moderator)* - 9/5/2005 1:36:48 AM
  - I have to hand it to you [Originally Posted to Off-Topic by FrankC on 9/4/2005 12:13:38 PM] - *Moved from Off-Topic by MA (moderator)* - 9/5/2005 1:39:07 AM
    - I hope it is clear, that wasn't my intention [Originally Posted to Off-Topic by Daniel on 9/4/2005 5:04:20 PM] - *Moved from Off-Topic by MA (moderator)* - 9/5/2005 1:42:56 AM
      - No harm, no foul, Daniel. [Originally Posted to Off-Topic by Mary Anne (moderator) on 9/4/2005 5:22:35 PM] - *Moved from Off-Topic by MA (moderator)* - 9/5/2005 1:45:08 AM
        
        fair enough [Originally Posted to Off-Topic by Daniel on 9/4/2005 6:07:35 PM] - *Moved from Off-Topic by MA (moderator)* - 9/5/2005 1:53:16 AM
    - I'll second that. [Originally Posted to Off-Topic by SDAI-Tech1 on 9/4/2005 12:54:23 PM] - *Moved from Off-Topic by MA (moderator)* - 9/5/2005 1:41:21 AM
- re: Notice to newcomers - RL Sometimes Has Reading Problems [Originally Posted to Off-Topic by Mark Eby on 9/4/2005 10:24:49 AM] - *Moved from Off-Topic by MA (moderator)* - 9/5/2005 1:27:06 AM
  - Hello. Please refer to my post, below. Thank you. [Originally Posted to Off-Topic by Mary Anne (moderator) on 9/4/2005 10:59:12 AM] - *Moved from Off-Topic by MA (moderator)* - 9/5/2005 1:33:10 AM
    - Gee It Looks Like Some Moderators Are Interfering With Free Speech - Mark Eby - 9/10/2005 9:06:47 PM
      - Ooops Looked In Wrong Place - Mark Eby - 9/11/2005 8:16:30 PM
- hey - go easy on the throwback [Originally Posted to Off-Topic by Daniel on 9/4/2005 8:17:48 AM] - *Moved from Off-Topic by MA (moderator)* - 9/5/2005 1:22:57 AM
  - If you want to call New Orleans a stable and cohesive society. [Originally Posted to Off-Topic by Lee on 9/4/2005 2:43:51 PM] (n/t) - *Moved from Off-Topic by MA (moderator)* - 9/5/2005 1:24:53 AM
- I meant that in a GOOD way.... [Originally Posted to Off-Topic by R.L. on 9/4/2005 6:53:15 AM] (n/t) - *Moved from Off-Topic by MA (moderator)* - 9/5/2005 1:16:18 AM
  - I'm glad to hear it. [Originally Posted to Off-Topic by Mary Anne (moderator) on 9/4/2005 8:36:13 AM] - *Moved from Off-Topic by MA (moderator)* - 9/5/2005 1:19:14 AM
    - hmm - Mark Eby - 9/5/2005 2:23:32 AM
      - Oh, shut up. - Mary Anne - 9/5/2005 3:45:46 AM
        
        Either You Misunderstood or I Did - Mark Eby - 9/5/2005 6:01:17 PM
        
        OK - Mary Anne (not Flame moderator) - 9/5/2005 6:31:00 PM
        
        Re: Bowser - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/6/2005 1:52:22 AM
        
        You have a lot of nerve, after your Scrooge-like turn of a couple days ago, - Mary Anne - 9/6/2005 3:05:21 AM
        
        Just pretend... - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/6/2005 3:31:50 AM
        
        Sorry, Charlie... - Mary Anne - 9/6/2005 4:07:20 AM
        
        Well... - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/6/2005 4:19:15 AM
        
        I think it's a stupid question. - Mary Anne - 9/6/2005 4:51:57 AM
        
        re: Just pretend... - Lindy - 9/6/2005 3:49:54 AM
        
        You don't support hate too? - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/6/2005 4:32:03 AM
        
        That tired old dog is far from hunting - DL - 9/6/2005 5:01:58 AM
        
        I think that's the real problem MA, reality just won't go away. - Lee - 9/5/2005 4:13:11 AM
        
        Read past the subject line once in a while. - Mary Anne - 9/5/2005 4:26:33 AM
        
        Let's start with the make up of the general prison population. (n/t) - Lee - 9/5/2005 4:33:53 AM
        
        Let's start with the number of blacks who have access to proper legal representation. - Mary Anne - 9/5/2005 4:41:42 AM
        
        Making excuses doesn't work either in the long run. - Lee - 9/5/2005 5:13:56 AM
        
        So what's your excuse for oil company execs turning this human tragedy into massive profits? - Buck Galaxy - 9/6/2005 4:34:23 AM

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