I don't think anyone is seriously calling the IM messages phony.

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I don't think anyone is seriously calling the IM messages phony.

Tom Brosz — 10/5/2006 6:21:09 PM (archived)

Simple common sense, again. If phony, why did Foley dive off the plank almost immediately?

I have seen no evidence, either in how the messages were formatted or anything else, to imply that the original IM messages (separate issue from the e-mails) were fake.

I have seen evidence that they were acquired somehow and dispersed for political reasons, long after the fact, probably using a blog constructed specifically for this single purpose.

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Ahhh... the 'bububut Mommey He Did It Too' argument. Almost as good as a Yeti - YetiMaster DL - 10/5/2006 7:01:31 AM
- Today's spin du jour - Robert - 10/7/2006 5:18:58 PM
- A pox on them all - FrankC - 10/5/2006 10:13:18 PM
  - refreshing and encouraging - FrankC - 10/5/2006 10:20:23 PM
    - Well, we started out OK, Dad... - Mary Anne - 10/5/2006 11:49:10 PM
      - ...but then human nature reared its ugly head. - Robert - 10/7/2006 5:12:20 PM
        
        Shutting down the Flame board - Mary Anne - 10/7/2006 11:05:30 PM
        
        It was a suggestion... - Ribert - 10/8/2006 4:24:43 PM
        
        re: Shutting down the Flame board - DarthYeti - 10/8/2006 12:40:03 AM
- Okay, now what? - Tom Brosz - 10/5/2006 9:56:31 PM
  - ABC see Drudge, and raises. - Tom Brosz - 10/5/2006 10:30:49 PM
    - one group is going to get burned badly soon - tony - 10/6/2006 2:06:24 AM
      - I agree. Maybe both. And something on future elections... - Tom Brosz - 10/6/2006 2:46:27 AM
  - A note to Scott - Tom Brosz - 10/5/2006 10:04:28 PM
    - Yes Sir. - Scott Evil - 10/6/2006 1:30:51 PM
      - I found an explanation - Tony - 10/6/2006 4:55:57 PM
- re: Ahhh... the 'bububut Mommey He Did It Too' argument. Almost as good as a Yeti - YetiMaster - 10/5/2006 4:22:29 PM
  - Agree - Tony - 10/5/2006 4:51:59 PM
    - re: Agree - YetiMaster - 10/5/2006 6:35:57 PM
      - Hastert's story hasn't changed... But lie away... - Scott Evil - 10/5/2006 6:43:20 PM
        
        Ah. I'm a liar now. I'll remember that. - YetiMaster - 10/5/2006 7:27:29 PM
- Uh oh. The innocent minor appears to have been 18 at the time of the IM's. - Scott Evil - 10/5/2006 1:28:20 PM
  - Irresponsible and Reprehensible - Tony - 10/5/2006 2:56:03 PM
    - Not really. - Scott Evil - 10/5/2006 3:01:45 PM
      - Backtracking already? - Tony - 10/5/2006 3:25:46 PM
        
        And another thing for you left wingers to contemplate... - Scott Evil - 10/5/2006 3:59:37 PM
        
        Source was a Republican - Tony - 10/5/2006 5:20:53 PM
        
        To reveal evidence of a possible crime is not aiding and abetting. - Mary Anne - 10/5/2006 4:57:15 PM
        
        What if no crime took place? - Scott Evil - 10/5/2006 6:11:56 PM
        
        If no crime took place, Mr. Foley has merely sexually harassed an employee. - Mary Anne - 10/5/2006 6:18:26 PM
        
        do you have evidence that Foley sexually harassed an employee? - Scott Evil - 10/5/2006 6:25:06 PM
        
        Oh, read the emails. It's all right there. - Mary Anne - 10/5/2006 6:40:39 PM
        
        it could be... Or it might be something else... - Scott Evil - 10/5/2006 6:50:25 PM
        
        somebody tell me this was a parody...... (n/t) - tony - 10/6/2006 1:36:57 AM
        
        take a breath, Scott - alcaray - 10/5/2006 6:57:48 PM
        
        Don't worry, I'm breathing... But before the election, the Democrats will be begging Mark Foley to forgive them and Come back to the House of Representatives. - Scott Evil - 10/5/2006 7:03:10 PM
        
        You want it both ways - Yeti Handler - 10/5/2006 7:32:07 PM
        
        OK, Buddy (n/t) - alcaray - 10/5/2006 7:11:27 PM
        
        OK, first the Democrats are brilliantly diabolical, and then they are morons. - Mary Anne - 10/5/2006 6:56:57 PM
        
        What crime could a page commit here? - Tony - 10/5/2006 6:17:46 PM
        
        the paige might be a victim of a crime... - Scott Evil - 10/5/2006 6:29:10 PM
        
        And learn to spell PAGE. - Mary Anne - 10/5/2006 6:45:47 PM
        
        I care. - Scott Evil - 10/5/2006 6:53:37 PM
        
        this one aint gonna last 5 minutes either (n/t) - Tony - 10/5/2006 4:31:25 PM
        
        good grief! (n/t) - alcaray - 10/5/2006 4:03:54 PM
        
        re: Backtracking already? - REB - 10/5/2006 3:41:36 PM
        
        I'm not back tracking... - Scott Evil - 10/5/2006 3:40:13 PM
        
        ah! It's Clinton's fault!! - Tony - 10/5/2006 4:33:48 PM
  - Misleading and inaccurate. - Tom Brosz - 10/5/2006 2:22:50 PM
    - Just a few days ago Clinton "lost his mind" when he expressed the paranoid delusion that Fox was biased. - alcaray - 10/5/2006 3:02:26 PM
      - Where did Fox News come into this? - Tom Brosz - 10/5/2006 4:54:05 PM
        
        Only as a part of a story that demonstrates the flexibility of your definition of paranoia. (n/t) - alcaray - 10/5/2006 5:41:15 PM
  - re: Here is the alledged victim of Foley's advances... - Scott Evil - 10/5/2006 1:39:14 PM
    - "Credit" is not a word I would use. - Mary Anne - 10/5/2006 3:11:20 PM
      - blog can be easily manipulated to create smears in an election season. - Scott Evil - 10/5/2006 3:22:39 PM
    - Hitting on pages is frowned on - E.P. - 10/5/2006 2:45:35 PM
      - True - Scott Evil - 10/5/2006 3:04:56 PM
        
        re: True - REB - 10/5/2006 3:44:23 PM
        
        Interesting. - Scott Evil - 10/5/2006 4:01:40 PM
        
        Individuals involved in the conversation can save IM sessions as computer files. - Mary Anne - 10/5/2006 5:14:16 PM
        
        yes they can also create phoney IM messages that then could be sold to ABC News. - Scott Evil - 10/5/2006 6:15:54 PM
        
        Timestamps. - Mary Anne - 10/5/2006 6:35:52 PM
        
        I don't think anyone is seriously calling the IM messages phony. - Tom Brosz - 10/5/2006 6:21:09 PM
        
        All it takes for them to be phoney is one redaction... - Scott Evil - 10/5/2006 6:36:26 PM
        
        Timing - Tom Brosz - 10/5/2006 5:36:10 PM
        
        We'll see what comes out in the investigation. - Mary Anne - 10/5/2006 5:54:06 PM
        
        Way to take the moral high ground right in the midst of October. - Scott Evil - 10/5/2006 6:19:57 PM
        
        The moral high ground is the last thing you should be mentioning. - Mary Anne - 10/5/2006 6:50:48 PM
        
        Says who? (n/t) - Tony - 10/5/2006 4:43:33 PM
        
        I am not sure how you would have tracked IM's 5 years ago. - REB - 10/5/2006 4:08:13 PM
        
        rI believe that was around 5 years ago. - REB - 10/5/2006 4:15:49 PM
        
        Access - Tom Brosz - 10/5/2006 5:05:37 PM

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