re: Why would a US withdrawal result in an all out civil war?

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re: Why would a US withdrawal result in an all out civil war?

Raoul — 10/11/2006 9:22:48 PM (archived)

If the US were to withdraw, it would be a victory for all Iraqis opposed to the US occupation.
One thing the occupation has caused is Iraqi nationalism. The insurgents will join the nationalists and definitely not fight them.
In fact, the insurgents are willing to talk to the current government provided the US left Iraq (this I read in a IHT article I posted earlier).
If some factions were to go on with killing Iraqis (being Iraqis themselves), they'd be quickly confronted with its absurdity.

And why would a civil war expand? The common enemy, the US, would be gone!
If the Shi-ites were at the head, one way to appease the Sunnis would be to spare Saddam's life.

All this "if the US left Iraq, it would get worse" argument is nothing but war propaganda aimed at hiding the one obvious consequence: the humiliation of defeat.

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Limiting Failure - alcaray - 10/11/2006 6:44:50 PM
- "Get all these palefaces out of here." (Unknown Marine--1975) - ER - 10/11/2006 8:19:53 PM
  - It won't happen while Bush is in office. - Scott Evil - 10/12/2006 3:51:45 PM
  - re: Why would a US withdrawal result in an all out civil war? - Raoul - 10/11/2006 9:22:48 PM
    - I hope you are right - alcaray - 10/12/2006 6:25:58 PM
      - re: What is so shameful - Raoul - 10/12/2006 7:31:43 PM
        
        Won't have that problem. President McCain did vote for the war. (n/t) - Murph the Smurf - 10/13/2006 1:35:11 PM
    - Really an Iraqi Civil War wouldn't be all bad... - Scott Evil - 10/12/2006 3:55:11 PM
      - Iraqi Shiites have little in common with Iran - Lee - 10/13/2006 6:55:13 AM
      - Relax ALCRAY... That was sarcasm... - Scott Evil - 10/12/2006 4:07:36 PM
        
        ok... Jesse Jackson Might get away with the "vaulted" slip up...But I expect arrows! - Scott Evil - 10/12/2006 4:09:35 PM
    - I'm afraid I must disagree, Raoul. - ER - 10/11/2006 11:42:21 PM
      - Postponement - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2006 1:00:22 AM
        
        Sticking to the Democrats will surrender theme I see. - Tony - 10/12/2006 2:35:36 AM
        
        Now yer talking some sense. And you're already blaming Democrats. - Bowser - 10/12/2006 1:08:57 AM
        
        Face it, Tom. The Islamists have Iraq. They've had it for 2 years. (n/t) - ER - 10/12/2006 1:05:54 AM
        
        re: Face it - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2006 1:40:21 AM
        
        Tom, THINK! - ER - 10/12/2006 2:23:54 AM
        
        You think. - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2006 2:44:00 AM
        
        Ahh, Tom - Publius - 10/12/2006 9:00:48 PM
        
        re: Ahh, Publius - Tom Brosz - 10/13/2006 1:44:11 AM
        
        re: You think. - ER - 10/12/2006 3:28:23 AM
        
        Think strategically for a moment... - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/12/2006 4:18:50 AM
        
        I don't agree. - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2006 4:23:36 AM
        
        You're not cynical enough Tom - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/12/2006 4:36:57 AM
        
        re: You think. - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2006 3:43:33 AM
        
        re: You think. - ER - 10/12/2006 4:43:10 AM
        
        re: You think. - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2006 5:14:06 AM
        
        bravo - Ian Cognito - 10/12/2006 3:39:29 AM
        
        Your side has no solutions at all. - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2006 3:44:33 AM
        
        Remember when Clinton used to submit proposed budgets to the Republican congress? - alcaray - 10/12/2006 5:42:19 PM
        
        We have the most important part of the solution in hand - Robert - 10/12/2006 4:27:49 PM
        
        Ah. The "we have a Secret Plan" gambit. - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2006 10:07:07 PM
        
        Ah, the "I got nothing either, but you're a weiner" gambit (n/t) - tony - 10/13/2006 2:21:14 AM
        
        Your side has no solutions. No plan, no nothin'. - Bowser - 10/12/2006 6:34:00 AM
        
        Balls - Ian Cognito - 10/12/2006 4:27:55 AM
        
        Actually, I must confess I agree with you on that comment. (n/t) - ER - 10/12/2006 3:54:24 AM
        
        which one? - I.C. - 10/12/2006 4:38:45 AM
        
        That wasn't directed at you. - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2006 4:04:25 AM
    - Good thought........ - Publius - 10/11/2006 9:38:43 PM
- "Quagmire" AND "Civil War" They've managed "both - and", not "either - or". - Bowser - 10/11/2006 8:06:10 PM

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