Now yer talking some sense. And you're already blaming Democrats.

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Now yer talking some sense. And you're already blaming Democrats.

Bowser — 10/12/2006 1:08:57 AM (archived)

Of course people would want to withdraw from Afghanistan. It's a non-nation to begin with, always has been more tribal than national, and the tribes have always kicked the shit out of anyone who tried to dominate them.

And will continue to do so. The US, NATO, call it what you will. It's a non-nation and you ain't gonna change that. Fer Crissake, you haven't even found OBL. How's that for powerful, smart, etc. And if he's found today, look at how long it took. Utter, abject, humilitating failure. The world's most powerful nation confronting a third-world hick.

You are already blaming Democrats for losing in Iraq. Think of that. Already blaming. The world's most powerful nation confronting a bunch of third-world hicks without WMDs, nukes, etc.

Bush hasn't done it in over 3 years, and has no plans for doing anything differently now. It can't happen the way he's doing it. What does it take to see that?

Naturally there will be an increase in "terrorism", whether the US stays or not. Bush's policies have created so much more hatred for the US that people everywhere will either be taking potshots at Americans or applauding those who do. That's irreversible for a long, long time, and will take a drastically changed foreign policy even then.

The answer isn't, "If it doesn't work, try it harder".

Arf

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Limiting Failure - alcaray - 10/11/2006 6:44:50 PM
- "Get all these palefaces out of here." (Unknown Marine--1975) - ER - 10/11/2006 8:19:53 PM
  - It won't happen while Bush is in office. - Scott Evil - 10/12/2006 3:51:45 PM
  - re: Why would a US withdrawal result in an all out civil war? - Raoul - 10/11/2006 9:22:48 PM
    - I hope you are right - alcaray - 10/12/2006 6:25:58 PM
      - re: What is so shameful - Raoul - 10/12/2006 7:31:43 PM
        
        Won't have that problem. President McCain did vote for the war. (n/t) - Murph the Smurf - 10/13/2006 1:35:11 PM
    - Really an Iraqi Civil War wouldn't be all bad... - Scott Evil - 10/12/2006 3:55:11 PM
      - Iraqi Shiites have little in common with Iran - Lee - 10/13/2006 6:55:13 AM
      - Relax ALCRAY... That was sarcasm... - Scott Evil - 10/12/2006 4:07:36 PM
        
        ok... Jesse Jackson Might get away with the "vaulted" slip up...But I expect arrows! - Scott Evil - 10/12/2006 4:09:35 PM
    - I'm afraid I must disagree, Raoul. - ER - 10/11/2006 11:42:21 PM
      - Postponement - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2006 1:00:22 AM
        
        Sticking to the Democrats will surrender theme I see. - Tony - 10/12/2006 2:35:36 AM
        
        Now yer talking some sense. And you're already blaming Democrats. - Bowser - 10/12/2006 1:08:57 AM
        
        Face it, Tom. The Islamists have Iraq. They've had it for 2 years. (n/t) - ER - 10/12/2006 1:05:54 AM
        
        re: Face it - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2006 1:40:21 AM
        
        Tom, THINK! - ER - 10/12/2006 2:23:54 AM
        
        You think. - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2006 2:44:00 AM
        
        Ahh, Tom - Publius - 10/12/2006 9:00:48 PM
        
        re: Ahh, Publius - Tom Brosz - 10/13/2006 1:44:11 AM
        
        re: You think. - ER - 10/12/2006 3:28:23 AM
        
        Think strategically for a moment... - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/12/2006 4:18:50 AM
        
        I don't agree. - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2006 4:23:36 AM
        
        You're not cynical enough Tom - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/12/2006 4:36:57 AM
        
        re: You think. - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2006 3:43:33 AM
        
        re: You think. - ER - 10/12/2006 4:43:10 AM
        
        re: You think. - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2006 5:14:06 AM
        
        bravo - Ian Cognito - 10/12/2006 3:39:29 AM
        
        Your side has no solutions at all. - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2006 3:44:33 AM
        
        Remember when Clinton used to submit proposed budgets to the Republican congress? - alcaray - 10/12/2006 5:42:19 PM
        
        We have the most important part of the solution in hand - Robert - 10/12/2006 4:27:49 PM
        
        Ah. The "we have a Secret Plan" gambit. - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2006 10:07:07 PM
        
        Ah, the "I got nothing either, but you're a weiner" gambit (n/t) - tony - 10/13/2006 2:21:14 AM
        
        Your side has no solutions. No plan, no nothin'. - Bowser - 10/12/2006 6:34:00 AM
        
        Balls - Ian Cognito - 10/12/2006 4:27:55 AM
        
        Actually, I must confess I agree with you on that comment. (n/t) - ER - 10/12/2006 3:54:24 AM
        
        which one? - I.C. - 10/12/2006 4:38:45 AM
        
        That wasn't directed at you. - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2006 4:04:25 AM
    - Good thought........ - Publius - 10/11/2006 9:38:43 PM
- "Quagmire" AND "Civil War" They've managed "both - and", not "either - or". - Bowser - 10/11/2006 8:06:10 PM

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