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You're not cynical enough Tom

SDAI-Tech1 — 10/12/2006 4:36:57 AM (archived)

It's not "Screw the Iraqis" it "Here's some apples you can make applesauce or plant an apple orchard - or if you want you can throw them at each other. Do what you will."

Everybody wants it to work but folks overestimated the intelligence of the populace and so I think many are resigned to the buffer concept. When Rumsfeld announced that troop levels would remain stagnant through 2010 today, I read that as a form of resignation.

We wont leave Iraq, but we're not going to strongarm the masses into submission with huge US forces. Sadly, Iraq is a playground for psychotic kids/adults and it serves a valid purpose. Much like folks here play laser tag or paintball to get violence out of their systems, a locked down Iraq might refocus these folks on more vulnerable US civilian targets.

I don't like it Tom, but I have the feeling that the administration is just hunkering down to internal and external pressures.

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Limiting Failure - alcaray - 10/11/2006 6:44:50 PM
- "Get all these palefaces out of here." (Unknown Marine--1975) - ER - 10/11/2006 8:19:53 PM
  - It won't happen while Bush is in office. - Scott Evil - 10/12/2006 3:51:45 PM
  - re: Why would a US withdrawal result in an all out civil war? - Raoul - 10/11/2006 9:22:48 PM
    - I hope you are right - alcaray - 10/12/2006 6:25:58 PM
      - re: What is so shameful - Raoul - 10/12/2006 7:31:43 PM
        
        Won't have that problem. President McCain did vote for the war. (n/t) - Murph the Smurf - 10/13/2006 1:35:11 PM
    - Really an Iraqi Civil War wouldn't be all bad... - Scott Evil - 10/12/2006 3:55:11 PM
      - Iraqi Shiites have little in common with Iran - Lee - 10/13/2006 6:55:13 AM
      - Relax ALCRAY... That was sarcasm... - Scott Evil - 10/12/2006 4:07:36 PM
        
        ok... Jesse Jackson Might get away with the "vaulted" slip up...But I expect arrows! - Scott Evil - 10/12/2006 4:09:35 PM
    - I'm afraid I must disagree, Raoul. - ER - 10/11/2006 11:42:21 PM
      - Postponement - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2006 1:00:22 AM
        
        Sticking to the Democrats will surrender theme I see. - Tony - 10/12/2006 2:35:36 AM
        
        Now yer talking some sense. And you're already blaming Democrats. - Bowser - 10/12/2006 1:08:57 AM
        
        Face it, Tom. The Islamists have Iraq. They've had it for 2 years. (n/t) - ER - 10/12/2006 1:05:54 AM
        
        re: Face it - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2006 1:40:21 AM
        
        Tom, THINK! - ER - 10/12/2006 2:23:54 AM
        
        You think. - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2006 2:44:00 AM
        
        Ahh, Tom - Publius - 10/12/2006 9:00:48 PM
        
        re: Ahh, Publius - Tom Brosz - 10/13/2006 1:44:11 AM
        
        re: You think. - ER - 10/12/2006 3:28:23 AM
        
        Think strategically for a moment... - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/12/2006 4:18:50 AM
        
        I don't agree. - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2006 4:23:36 AM
        
        You're not cynical enough Tom - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/12/2006 4:36:57 AM
        
        re: You think. - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2006 3:43:33 AM
        
        re: You think. - ER - 10/12/2006 4:43:10 AM
        
        re: You think. - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2006 5:14:06 AM
        
        bravo - Ian Cognito - 10/12/2006 3:39:29 AM
        
        Your side has no solutions at all. - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2006 3:44:33 AM
        
        Remember when Clinton used to submit proposed budgets to the Republican congress? - alcaray - 10/12/2006 5:42:19 PM
        
        We have the most important part of the solution in hand - Robert - 10/12/2006 4:27:49 PM
        
        Ah. The "we have a Secret Plan" gambit. - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2006 10:07:07 PM
        
        Ah, the "I got nothing either, but you're a weiner" gambit (n/t) - tony - 10/13/2006 2:21:14 AM
        
        Your side has no solutions. No plan, no nothin'. - Bowser - 10/12/2006 6:34:00 AM
        
        Balls - Ian Cognito - 10/12/2006 4:27:55 AM
        
        Actually, I must confess I agree with you on that comment. (n/t) - ER - 10/12/2006 3:54:24 AM
        
        which one? - I.C. - 10/12/2006 4:38:45 AM
        
        That wasn't directed at you. - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2006 4:04:25 AM
    - Good thought........ - Publius - 10/11/2006 9:38:43 PM
- "Quagmire" AND "Civil War" They've managed "both - and", not "either - or". - Bowser - 10/11/2006 8:06:10 PM

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