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TB — 4/17/2007 6:31:15 PM (archived)

It would be preferable if the teachers were armed, of course.

I'm not calling for policies to arm school personnel or students. I'm calling for policies that would not forbid a person from being armed if they wanted to be. I have no objections to rules and laws demanding carry licenses, training, and other reasonable restrictions.

The point is that an armed psycho entering what they are now calling "no-gun zones" (sometimes entire towns) can do so with the absolute assurance that he will meet no armed resistance from an honest person. Granted, a sufficiently suicidal nut would not be deterred by this--you can't deter a crazy person--but how many other troubled people, never mind outright criminals, might be?

The sky marshall program, however screwed up it might be, works under the principal that a hijacker can't be SURE that he's not dealing with armed "victims." It isn't necessary, or even desirable, to have a sky marshall on every plane, or a gun in every schoolroom.

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Last year at Virginia Tech - TB - 4/17/2007 1:35:41 AM
- Here we go again... - SDAI-Tech1 - 4/18/2007 12:40:25 AM
  - impacting psychosis manifestations - FrankC - 4/18/2007 2:44:34 AM
    - Somebody could test the theory that guns prevend breaking and entering. - The Artist formerly known as Scott Evil - 4/18/2007 2:12:19 PM
    - We do a lousy job with mental illness in this country. - Mary Anne - 4/18/2007 3:42:44 AM
- Gun control has been on my mind since this happened - FrankC - 4/17/2007 6:54:30 PM
  - re: Gun control has been on my mind since this happened - ER - 4/17/2007 7:45:26 PM
    - Guns in the old West - FrankC - 4/17/2007 8:56:58 PM
      - Please note: A gun "purchased on the street" is not illegal. - The Artist formerly known as Scott Evil - 4/17/2007 9:02:12 PM
        
        Handgun sales have to go through a licensed dealer. This is Federal law. - Mary Anne - 4/18/2007 1:08:06 PM
        
        That sounds right..... - FrankC - 4/18/2007 4:57:46 PM
        
        Still... I gotta find a $100.00 Glock. - The Artist formerly known as Scott Evil - 4/18/2007 6:48:53 PM
        
        Mine cost $500 - Lee - 4/19/2007 6:50:35 AM
        
        That must be fairly new... The last gun I purchased... - The Artist formerly known as Scott Evil - 4/18/2007 2:04:59 PM
        
        PS - Mary Anne - 4/18/2007 2:31:17 PM
        
        But just in case...My memory has been refreshed... - The Artist formerly known as Scott Evil - 4/18/2007 2:51:26 PM
        
        Well they better get going! - The Artist formerly known as Scott Evil - 4/18/2007 2:39:43 PM
        
        Not all licensed dealers are shop owners. - Mary Anne - 4/18/2007 2:27:58 PM
        
        yes and no - FrankC - 4/18/2007 1:51:16 AM
        
        Filed off SERIAL NUMBERS? - carl - 4/17/2007 11:34:11 PM
        
        Evidence of paranoid schizoness - The Artist formerly known as Scott Evil - 4/18/2007 2:13:47 PM
  - I blame the Student loan program. - The Artist formerly known as Scott Evil - 4/17/2007 7:37:03 PM
- did you read the article? your headline is very wrong (n/t) - I Cognito - 4/17/2007 5:37:19 PM
- No. - The Artist formerly known as Scott Evil - 4/17/2007 5:17:22 PM
  - I agree - azstrummer - 4/17/2007 7:21:37 PM
    - re:Does this mean the smoke has cleared? (n/t) - SteveS - 4/17/2007 8:22:11 PM
      - re: re:Does this mean the smoke has cleared? - azstrummer - 4/17/2007 8:32:24 PM
        
        re: re:Does this mean the smoke has cleared? - SteveS - 4/17/2007 9:02:04 PM
        
        Clarification - azstrummer - 4/17/2007 10:05:41 PM
        
        re: Clarification - TB - 4/18/2007 1:49:24 AM
  - re: No. - TB - 4/17/2007 6:31:15 PM
    - Arm the teachers and all the teachers are targets. - Mary Anne - 4/18/2007 1:26:29 PM
      - The teachers are targets anyway. - TB - 4/19/2007 3:42:28 AM
    - Dear God...An Armed Teachers Union? - The Artist formerly known as Scott Evil - 4/17/2007 7:11:22 PM
      - On second thought, I'm gonna wait until I hear Barak Obama's stance before I make up my mind... - The Artist formerly known as Scott Evil - 4/17/2007 8:57:03 PM
- Taking this to flame (n/t) - azstrummer - 4/17/2007 3:14:34 PM
  - az took things too far in his post...but - Doug Ellison - 4/17/2007 4:16:32 PM
    - I'll tell you what I told R.L. - TB - 4/17/2007 4:51:57 PM
      - how sad - Doug Ellison - 4/17/2007 5:28:56 PM
      - Left, Schmeft. Politics is obviously more important to you than lives. What a pathetic display! (n/t) - Fed Up - 4/17/2007 5:12:01 PM
      - Yeah, keep telling everyone. Dig your hole. - azstrummer - 4/17/2007 4:59:18 PM
        
        Will you please spare us the false indignation? - The Artist formerly known as Scott Evil - 4/17/2007 7:20:13 PM
        
        Nope - azstrummer - 4/17/2007 7:25:05 PM
        
        OK - The Artist formerly known as Scott Evil - 4/17/2007 7:28:23 PM
- Look around the world and ask yourself: why does it mainly happen in the US? - Raoul - 4/17/2007 9:04:37 AM
  - Argh! Can't we wait until the people are buried before we do this? - Yeti - 4/17/2007 4:22:49 PM
- Way to go, Tom. Really admirable. (n/t) - Yeti - 4/17/2007 3:18:19 AM
  - If you want to discuss it, go ahead. - TB - 4/17/2007 4:14:31 AM
    - Sit and spin, Tom. I'm not going to have a political discussion with you when the bodies are not even cold. (n/t) - Yeti - 4/17/2007 4:18:32 AM
      - The New York Times and other outlets are. Tell them. (n/t) - TB - 4/17/2007 4:23:14 AM
        
        BuBuBut Moooommmyy!!!! They did it too!!! (n/t) - Yeti - 4/17/2007 4:59:23 AM
        
        Don't be a fool. - TB - 4/17/2007 5:14:46 AM
        
        Don't have the ethical process of a 5 year old. (n/t) - Yeti - 4/17/2007 4:24:25 PM
        
        Dont be an ass - ARRELL - 4/17/2007 6:48:02 AM
        
        You have one good point... - TB - 4/17/2007 4:38:15 PM
        
        As I said, Tom: "Oh I know you will whine that others are exploiting it- dont bother" - ARRELL - 4/17/2007 4:57:28 PM
        
        Indignation is not a good substitute for discussion. - TB - 4/17/2007 5:12:51 PM
        
        Remember that episode of All in the Family... - . - 4/17/2007 2:00:58 PM

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