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Robert — 4/28/2008 5:38:17 PM (archived)

C'mon, you know how it works. The most recent example was the GOP running a smear ad in North Carolina, and McCain virtuously pretending to ask them to stop. It's all about deniability.

I never get tired of hearing Republican pundits these days casually using the word "swiftboating" to describe a smear campaign based on lies. We all knew the score in 2004, and even Republicans are admitting the true nature of the Swift Boat Veterans for "Truth". There was never any doubt that 2008 would bring a reprise of Republican swiftboating, this time based on the general theme of "He's black! He's Muslim! He's black!"; only the details remained to be resolved.

So far we've had a good old time dredging up posts from early 2003 to compare positions on Iraq, then and now. How about we search the messages from 2004 to read once again as RightWingers stridently defend Swift Boat Veterans for "Truth"? Anyone want to try to square the circle and explain how Republicans have come to adopt the term "swiftboating" to refer to smear campaigns?

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A thought-provoking anti-Obama smear - Robert - 4/28/2008 3:14:14 PM
- What are the odds? - RobVG - 4/30/2008 5:23:50 AM
  - Uhh, Rob... - Robert - 4/30/2008 5:28:34 AM
    - Still... - TB - 4/30/2008 2:26:33 PM
      - Uhh, Tom... - Robert - 4/30/2008 3:47:45 PM
        
        The one in this thread? - TB - 4/30/2008 4:35:06 PM
        
        We're getting a little confused here - Robert - 4/30/2008 5:09:21 PM
        
        "desperate battle against hope and unity" - TB - 4/30/2008 6:12:59 PM
        
        Now that's ironic - Robert - 4/30/2008 6:45:51 PM
        
        re: ironic - TB - 5/1/2008 4:06:19 PM
        
        That's the Illinois Senate, not the Congress. - TB - 4/30/2008 6:20:32 PM
        
        re: We're getting a little confused here - TB - 4/30/2008 5:57:13 PM
        
        "cough up the address" - Robert - 4/30/2008 6:36:30 PM
        
        re: mainstream - TB - 5/1/2008 4:56:29 PM
      - have to agree - SDG - 4/30/2008 3:22:33 PM
- I know a lot of right wingers - SDG - 4/29/2008 5:51:45 AM
- re: A thought-provoking anti-Obama smear - gbaikie - 4/28/2008 7:58:42 PM
- Excellent point - TB - 4/28/2008 6:02:05 PM
  - Not addresses, just names. We all know how you hate the lack of attribution. (n/t) - Bowser - 4/29/2008 3:59:30 AM
    - C'mon, name names TB. You'll feel better. - Bowser - 4/29/2008 5:21:46 PM
      - Your desperation is showing. - TB - 4/29/2008 6:17:00 PM
  - Yeah! Who are these people? Need names. - Bowser - 4/28/2008 11:30:24 PM
  - Who are these people? - azstrummer - 4/28/2008 10:24:19 PM
    - Rev. Wright and the Obama clan. - Lee - 4/29/2008 12:12:46 AM
    - U Peeple! - ER - 4/28/2008 11:30:18 PM
      - Whoa. - TB - 4/29/2008 1:08:49 AM
        
        Whoa, no - ER - 4/29/2008 2:29:28 AM
- Republican Republican Republican. - RobVG - 4/28/2008 4:58:44 PM
  - But to return to the point... - Robert - 4/28/2008 5:45:53 PM
    - There is such a thing as the Political Spectrum. - RobVG - 4/28/2008 6:10:25 PM
      - Robert's riding hard on one of those "weak man" arguments. ;) - TB - 4/28/2008 7:02:05 PM
        
        And what was the topic again? - Robert - 4/28/2008 10:55:00 PM
        
        re: And what was the topic again? - TB - 4/29/2008 1:18:50 AM
    - For example - Robert - 4/28/2008 6:07:37 PM
      - Nice try. - TB - 4/28/2008 6:21:03 PM
        
        Straw man - Yeti - 4/28/2008 7:17:58 PM
        
        Possibly. - TB - 4/28/2008 10:34:20 PM
        
        re: You have no idea what can be written off taxes in other countries - Yeti - 4/30/2008 4:24:22 PM
        
        (Well, red herring actually.) (n/t) - Yeti - 4/28/2008 9:59:24 PM
  - define "official" - Robert - 4/28/2008 5:38:17 PM
  - What does *flyover people* mean? (n/t) - Jody - 4/28/2008 5:35:04 PM
    - It's how RightWing demagogues rile up people in the middle of America (n/t) - Robert - 4/28/2008 5:38:54 PM
      - Sorry, the people of middle America are already "riled up" - RobVG - 4/28/2008 6:00:37 PM
        
        Are they bitter? (n/t) - alcaray - 4/28/2008 7:46:29 PM
        
        I have no idea what they taste like. (n/t) - RobVG - 4/29/2008 4:25:03 AM
        
        Well yeah - Robert - 4/28/2008 6:17:20 PM
- More conservative than America? - alcaray - 4/28/2008 4:42:53 PM
  - Cheney and Halliburton would certainly agree (n/t) - Robert - 4/28/2008 5:39:22 PM
  - TouchÃ©! - ER - 4/28/2008 5:15:56 PM
    - Where did you pull up "non-collectivist" for Arab states? (n/t) - TB - 4/28/2008 6:03:20 PM
      - Even the Taliban and OBL hate commies. - ER - 4/28/2008 8:54:52 PM
        
        Yeah, the Arab States are all about individual rights. (n/t) - TB - 4/28/2008 10:45:47 PM
        
        You've been saying that individual rights was something that liberals harped on. (n/t) - alcaray - 4/28/2008 11:37:04 PM
        
        Yeah, but they're really strong on property rights. (n/t) - ER - 4/28/2008 10:57:29 PM
        
        What could be more free market than baksheesh? (n/t) - alcaray - 4/28/2008 9:00:39 PM

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