I am not dishonestly doing anything. I've forthrightly quoted the article, including scientists own admissions that they don't understand the processes involved. I have expressed my own opinions (and that of a number of others) that the misunderstanding comes from certain basic premises (excluding discussion of electrodynamic processes, assumptions that plasma is "magnetizable" [the "frozen-in" condition of field lines in plasma] as if it's essentially a permanent magnet, the premise the magnetic field lines can be snipped and carried about in bits and pieces).
Do I think that magnetic fields are the result of electric currents? Yes.
Do I think that the strength of magnetic fields is dependent up on the strength of the underlying electric current? Generally, yes.
(Permanent magnets are a slightly different case, wherein the aligned dipoles ACT, according to the Ampèrian model, like a current flowing around the surface of a cylinder; though it's recognized that the charged particle motions are at the atomic level around individual nuclei, not in an actual "skin effect" current.)
Do I feel that where magnetic fields are seen and changes noted, that the underlying electric currents (that must be there by definition) should be discussed? Yes.
Have I provided references stating much the same? Also yes.
If you feel the above statements support the "electric star" hypothesis, that's your prerogative.
My question, when it gets down to it, is whether the above statements are more-or-less correct.
Are electric currents the source of magnetic fields? Are magnetic field strength and topology dependent upon current strength and geometry? If so, what can that tell us about magnetic structures we see in space? I simply want to know whether these things are true and whether they can help to resolve current "unknowns."
That's what I came here to discuss... Not your personal impression of my character, etc. etc.
Regards,
~Michael Gmirkin
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- Delete or move Gmirkin Garbage
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- You are taking a press release, and dishonestly implying that it lends creedence to your 'electric sun' nonsense...
- Until we change the rules or untill Robert release HZII, any number of nuts are welcome on offtopic. (n/t)
- re: You are taking a press release, and dishonestly implying that it lends creedence to your 'electric sun' nonsense...
- You are taking a press release, and dishonestly implying that it lends creedence to your 'electric sun' nonsense...
- moved (n/t)
- re: moved
- We have rules
- "Since the original post was intended to engender a rational scientific discussion of the issues " No, it wasnt....
- Angry much? Geez... Lighten up!
- re: Angry much? Geez... Lighten up!
- "Hopefully we can actually talk like human beings?"
- The Sun.
- Bzzzzzzzz.
- LOL- there you go! The 'peer' review it deserves...
- re: LOL- there you go! The 'peer' review it deserves...
- re: LOL- there you go! The 'peer' review it deserves...
- You won't be happy till it's move to flame? (n/t)
- My point precisely...
- A number of us on this board can guarantee that ARRELL is not Joshua Schroeder.
- Okay. :)
- However Michael...
- re: However Michael...
- Jody, its not 'pseudoskepticism'.... Its about knowing what one is talking about...
- re:pseudoskeptic, RL to T :-) (n/t)
- However Michael...
- Okay. :)
- A number of us on this board can guarantee that ARRELL is not Joshua Schroeder.
- My point precisely...
- re: Angry much? Geez... Lighten up!
- Angry much? Geez... Lighten up!
- Minor typo...
- re: moved
- re: Delete or move Gmirkin Garbage
