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TB — 4/18/2009 10:06:21 PM (archived)

the idea was to allow younger citizens an option to diversify a tiny part of their contribution into an account they own themselves and can be passed to heirs. The ups and downs of the stock settle into a pretty steady growth measured over decades. It's a real wakeup call to figure out what kind of cash someone my age would be sitting on if I had been putting all of my Social Security contributions over the past forty years into the stock market. Even now.

As far as health care, there were health savings accounts, insurance company regulation reform, and other ideas brought up.

I think the problem is that any non-socialist ideas in these areas are simply dismissed out of hand by Democratic politicians, and treated just as though no ideas at all were proposed.

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Will any of you participate in any teabagging tomorrow? - alcaray - 4/14/2009 10:25:00 PM
- A summary of all the teabagging - alcaray - 4/15/2009 11:19:24 PM
  - A slightly less hysterical summary - TB - 4/15/2009 11:39:22 PM
    - Thank You Tom. I appreciate it. - Jody - 4/16/2009 3:29:01 PM
    - Wow! I hope nobody confuses non-mainstream with non-biased. - alcaray - 4/16/2009 12:37:49 AM
      - Well, nobody confuses mainstream with non-biased either any more. (n/t) - TB - 4/16/2009 12:50:00 AM
    - And the teabaggers are protesting...What? A 3% rise in the tax rate for millionaires? - Buck Galaxy - 4/16/2009 12:00:15 AM
      - I keep on channeling this image of Daffy Duck... - ER - 4/16/2009 2:26:43 AM
      - Most of them are protesting the tax cuts they got. Unwittingly because they still believe the big lies from the election. (n/t) - alcaray - 4/16/2009 12:39:17 AM
      - re: And the teabaggers are protesting...What? - TB - 4/16/2009 12:22:46 AM
        
        The difference in those numbers - Buck Galaxy - 4/16/2009 4:38:56 AM
        
        A bullshit graph from a bullshit source. - et - 4/16/2009 1:12:03 AM
        
        re: source is the CBO - TB - 4/16/2009 3:50:37 AM
        
        That's funny, the link says Pajamas media - et - 4/16/2009 1:57:16 PM
        
        Foul - RobVG - 4/17/2009 12:19:08 AM
        
        Cock - et - 4/17/2009 5:12:13 AM
        
        You liberals are a different bunch. - RobVG - 4/17/2009 2:47:59 PM
        
        They blame TB for all things black and white. - Jody - 4/17/2009 3:24:39 PM
        
        Did you read the CBO report I linked? (n/t) - TB - 4/17/2009 5:29:11 AM
        
        That's only part of the picture. - et - 4/17/2009 5:45:39 AM
        
        Graph 2 - et - 4/17/2009 5:47:31 AM
        
        Now put those next to each other at the same scale. (n/t) - TB - 4/17/2009 5:54:36 AM
        
        Oh...you mean like this? - SDAI-Tech1 - 4/17/2009 10:12:45 AM
        
        And it's always been a game for you... (n/t) - et - 4/17/2009 4:00:51 PM
        
        Hardly. - SDAI-Tech1 - 4/17/2009 9:23:28 PM
        
        You didn't even notice those were different scales, did you? (n/t) - TB - 4/17/2009 4:28:17 PM
        
        Oh, I see. It's a game to you... - et - 4/17/2009 5:58:52 AM
        
        One small point... - TB - 4/17/2009 4:52:44 AM
        
        I agree Rob... (n/t) - Jody - 4/17/2009 12:46:56 AM
        
        Republicans are not even trying to offer serious solutions to the nation's problems - Buck Galaxy - 4/16/2009 4:57:55 PM
        
        Yeah they are. They've essentially been shut down in Washington. - TB - 4/16/2009 6:25:16 PM
        
        Proving my point - Buck Galaxy - 4/17/2009 1:43:32 AM
        
        Well... - TB - 4/17/2009 4:24:59 AM
        
        Shouldn't GDP be roughly proportional to employment? - alcaray - 4/17/2009 7:09:47 PM
        
        New Deal Unemployment stats - Buck Galaxy - 4/17/2009 6:00:01 AM
        
        You have an odd definition of success. - TB - 4/17/2009 6:10:07 AM
        
        That is what et is talking about - Buck Galaxy - 4/17/2009 3:44:10 PM
        
        All right then. - TB - 4/17/2009 4:25:56 PM
        
        Buck was talking about the New Deal. Your graphs don't show it. - alcaray - 4/17/2009 7:15:45 PM
        
        Good God. - TB - 4/17/2009 8:04:58 PM
        
        You are clearly not interested in honest debate - Buck Galaxy - 4/17/2009 11:33:39 PM
        
        re: honest debate - TB - 4/18/2009 1:15:52 AM
        
        Fair enough - Buck Galaxy - 4/18/2009 3:13:07 AM
        
        Okay, let's clarify... - TB - 4/18/2009 5:43:32 PM
        
        re: Okay, let's clarify... - Buck Galaxy - 4/18/2009 9:50:42 PM
        
        Ideas - TB - 4/18/2009 10:06:21 PM
        
        re: Ideas - ER - 4/19/2009 3:17:21 AM
        
        Social Security - TB - 4/19/2009 4:27:07 AM
        
        If there is a loss of confidence in Social Security - ER - 4/19/2009 12:35:46 PM
        
        Trust - TB - 4/20/2009 3:55:55 AM
        
        Look at the polls. - TB - 4/20/2009 3:48:32 AM
        
        Polls don't mean crap. (n/t) - ER - 4/20/2009 10:35:53 AM
        
        Then where is your "loss of confidence" information coming from? (n/t) - TB - 4/20/2009 5:30:19 PM
        
        Ask anyone on Social Security. - ER - 4/20/2009 6:25:53 PM
        
        And... - TB - 4/20/2009 8:08:59 PM
        
        Okay, you lost me. - TB - 4/20/2009 8:02:50 PM
        
        You are deliberately misleading and then abusive when called on it. (n/t) - alcaray - 4/17/2009 9:10:22 PM
        
        Ever the diplomat, eh? - ER - 4/17/2009 8:26:35 PM
        
        My Solution - REB - 4/16/2009 6:02:29 PM
        
        The bailouts are a necessary evil - Buck Galaxy - 4/16/2009 6:19:15 PM
        
        I hope you are right Buck - REB - 4/16/2009 6:30:34 PM
        
        If everything we hear is the truth...you are correct Buck. (n/t) - Jody - 4/16/2009 5:14:46 PM
- I would love to protest the Bailouts. - REB - 4/15/2009 5:55:49 PM
- Nope...I drink my tea...hot and straight.... - Jody - 4/15/2009 3:21:09 PM
- She's laughing because she probably knows what "teabagging" means in online gameplay. - RobVG - 4/15/2009 12:40:17 AM
  - I don't know what it means in online gameplay. - alcaray - 4/15/2009 1:17:45 AM
    - Is that anything like roleplay?...heh - Jody - 4/15/2009 3:22:32 PM
    - Found it. It was ABC. - alcaray - 4/15/2009 1:45:40 AM
      - Conservatives are not opposed to deficits. - ER - 4/15/2009 10:44:48 AM
        
        You nailed it. (n/t) - RobVG - 4/16/2009 12:03:28 AM
        
        The gift that keeps on giving. - ER - 4/16/2009 1:10:34 AM
        
        Deficits are only a problem to Conservatives when discussing social programs. - Bowser - 4/15/2009 6:34:51 PM
        
        It's OK to have deficits to kill people, just not so that OUR people can live. (n/t) - Eri - 4/15/2009 6:54:46 PM
        
        Most government spending is social programs - TB - 4/15/2009 6:53:13 PM
        
        And tell me what the costs would be without them - azstrummer - 4/16/2009 3:38:08 AM
        
        The point, and there was one, - TB - 4/16/2009 4:37:33 AM
        
        So obviously you want to get rid of that social spending - azstrummer - 4/16/2009 2:28:12 PM
        
        Get rid of it? No. But just for starters, we could try not to double it. - TB - 4/16/2009 6:25:55 PM
        
        Actually, I doubt they'll take my advice - azstrummer - 4/17/2009 12:24:49 AM
        
        An interesting idea. - TB - 4/17/2009 5:27:10 AM
        
        It isn't that government has any special expertise in medical care. - azstrummer - 4/17/2009 2:53:06 PM
        
        re: government expertise - TB - 4/17/2009 4:01:26 PM
        
        I'd agree with some of what you say - azstrummer - 4/18/2009 2:18:00 AM
        
        And on distrust of government... - TB - 4/18/2009 8:32:48 PM
        
        Market - TB - 4/18/2009 6:31:59 PM
        
        This one is. - TB - 4/15/2009 4:56:32 PM
        
        As a general rule, the private sector will tend to put money into things that will return real profit. - ER - 4/16/2009 12:15:27 PM
        
        Tax patriotism - TB - 4/16/2009 8:03:14 PM
        
        This whole "ducked taxes" meme - azstrummer - 4/18/2009 2:33:32 AM
        
        re: This whole "ducked taxes" meme - TB - 4/18/2009 8:49:42 PM
        
        I knew there was a reason you failed to comment on Reich's article. (n/t) - ER - 4/17/2009 12:14:52 AM
        
        "As a general rule, the private sector will tend to put money into things that will return real wealth." - azstrummer - 4/16/2009 3:46:39 AM
        
        Amen! - Jody - 4/15/2009 3:19:42 PM
- Teabagging in Tricorns - ER - 4/14/2009 11:38:28 PM

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