Re: A reasonable answer

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Re: A reasonable answer

Tom Brosz — 9/15/2002 11:28:21 AM (archived)

And it's about time, too. ;)

Our lives would all have been simpler if the three guys actually had been bombers. I expect more information to come out of this in the near future, and we can judge this incident more accurately. Right now, we're just hearing CNN and the three men--and of course their inevitable lawyers--talking. I would really like to hear the cops' side of this.

Again, the line between security and freedom is a fuzzy one, and it moves around like a snake. I don't have any easy answers as to where that line is either.

Is an oppressive society, a la old Singapore, worth being able to go out at night without worry and walk clean streets? In the time of Khubla Khan, it was said that a virgin carrying a bag of gold could walk from one end of the Mongol Empire to the other in perfect safety. Is it worth living under a Khan for that kind of security?

Is a libertarian, free society worth the price of living more dangerously, of not having a "safety net" if things go wrong, and of maybe losing some lives and buildings to terrorists now and then?

The real answer is probably somewhere in between, although as I've said before, I tend to lean toward the "dangerous freedom" side.

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They lie. - Bowser - 9/14/2002 8:05:05 AM
- What we have not become - Tom Brosz - 9/14/2002 4:02:54 PM
  - You don't know what you're saying here, Tom. - Bowser - 9/15/2002 4:04:55 PM
- Re: No, it's what you seem to have become . . . - D. Spires - 9/14/2002 1:44:49 PM
- Mistakes and confusion are not lies. - ebnelson - 9/14/2002 12:14:03 PM
- Re: Starting to get annoying now - Tom Brosz - 9/14/2002 9:37:36 AM
  - Corky always was just annoying n/t (n/t) - p - 9/15/2002 3:39:56 PM
  - A fair question. - Bowser - 9/15/2002 10:47:23 AM
    - Re: A reasonable answer - Tom Brosz - 9/15/2002 11:28:21 AM
  - Read your Anne Rand a little closer - Scott - 9/15/2002 10:26:30 AM
    - Re: Too many facts in today's media . . . - D. Spires - 9/16/2002 1:27:41 PM
  - If you were kept handcuffed in the back of a police car... - Mary Anne - 9/14/2002 10:55:42 AM
    - In reality it's a great tribute to America and our constitutional freedoms - Matt Burley - 9/14/2002 12:21:43 PM
    - MA, if you had reason to beleive someone was carting tnt into your town - ebnelson - 9/14/2002 12:17:08 PM
    - Re: handcuffed - Tom Brosz - 9/14/2002 11:05:02 AM
      - More than CNN - Mary Anne - 9/14/2002 11:42:33 AM
        
        Re: Why . . . ? - D. Spires - 9/14/2002 2:21:44 PM
        
        Who wouldn't be pissed - FrankC - 9/14/2002 12:41:06 PM
        
        I think you have a good handle on this. § (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/14/2002 12:22:10 PM
        
        Re: More than CNN - Tom Brosz - 9/14/2002 11:59:36 AM
        
        The photo shop girl had good evidence - Mary Anne - 9/14/2002 12:46:23 PM
- She lies - Anne Leftleaner - 9/14/2002 9:24:03 AM
  - Yes, it is all part of a skull & crossbones consiracy. § (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/14/2002 12:19:19 PM
  - Thank you for posting the article link. - Mary Anne - 9/14/2002 10:26:41 AM
    - Re: "Innocent until proven guilty" . . . - D. Spires - 9/14/2002 1:59:49 PM
      - Re: warrant - Mary Anne - 9/14/2002 2:18:44 PM
        
        The real problem is we are being bombarded with misinformation from both sides - Scott - 9/15/2002 10:10:51 AM
        
        Re: No overreaction at all . . . - D. Spires - 9/16/2002 1:22:17 PM
        
        Detention and investigation is completely lawful. - ebnelson - 9/14/2002 4:35:43 PM
        
        Re: I understand this, Mary Anne, but . . . - D. Spires - 9/14/2002 2:32:26 PM
        
        Yes but I'm sure somewhere there is a bad cop saying... - Scott - 9/15/2002 10:15:56 AM
        
        Re: At what point was it 'out of control' . . . ? - D. Spires - 9/16/2002 1:21:00 PM

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