Re: R.L....
<The collective should exist to provide the individual a chance to provide for the collective.... It is an economically sound premise, and is thrifty....as well as humane...
Of course, you might have noticed that this is a completely circular argument. You might also notice that it applies equally well to the relationship between farmers and cattle, which is not a coincidence. Eliminate the collective concept (usually a fancy word for the State) and it works just fine by itself. Individuals by themselves, and in voluntary cooperation with other individuals, can provide for almost every need without the State.