Boy Bowser, I couldn't agree more. The Soviet Union died, not as a result of anything the US did, but in spite of it. Any country which continually tries to expand it's borders and influence in the world simply gains as many problems as they do resources. It also certainly helped that the bordering countries to the Russian empire were predominantly radical Muslim states. Afghanistan, Ubekistan, all of those Islamic hot spots must have been a huge strain on not only the Russian military complex but also on the collective nerve of the the Soviet public. Yeah, we added a bit of fuel to their fire by arming the Mujahdeen but I'm certain history will show in a few decades that we did more damage to ourselves.
Almost all of our policies against the Russians, by both liberal and conservative administrations, did little but add fuel to the fire of the hardliners there. They eventually fell because of their own incompetence and greed. Even Jimmy Carter blew a golden opportunity in my mind. His boycott of the Moscow Olympics must have sent a sigh of relief to the KGB. If anything we should've instead subsidized millions of Americans to make the trip there instead of walking out. The seeds of discontent were already apparent in the USSR and to have scores of Americans invading their country and showing off their wealth and confidence would've been a public relations nightmare to Moscow.
It's high time we begin thinking outside the box in regard to our foreign policy. Simply strutting our chests and bombing countrysides might win some short term gains but in the long run, creativity and an insight into human nature has a far greater chance for success.
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- Ronald who?
- Posthumous hindsight
- Yet another remarkable HZ thread...starts good, becomes great...thanks guys (n/t)
- "The Press Slept While Reagan Rambled" -- FAIR
- Alot of us remember
- re: Republican "non-persons," continued.
- Both ways?
- re: Both ways?
- re: Both ways
- The Soviets copied the Soyuz and Progress from the US?
- re: The Soviets copied the Soyuz and Progress from the US?
- re: Defeating the Nazis alone
- No way. Without Lend Lease, the Soviets wouldn't have lasted past early 1943.
- Nazis lost at Moscow before Lend Lease began
- One other factor...
- re: and another
- Absolutely
- A lesson for all politicians.
- PS
- "And now Europe is paying for his stupidity"
- Just my opinion
- You are insane. (n/t)
- Seconded
- Not Hitler, but Germany.
- Hitler wasn't just a man...........
- Nazi Germany and Hitler are inseperable
- Kind of like slavery and America?
- your reply
- yes exactly like slavery and America?
- "His true crime was taking the spirit and heart of Europe and extinguishing it, ....."
- You actually understate the case when you say...
- Invading France?
- Kind of like slavery and America?
- re: Not Hitler, but Germany.
- Not Hitler, but Germany.
- Seconded
- You are insane. (n/t)
- Just my opinion
- A lesson for all politicians.
- Absolutely
- re: and another
- Missing Link --Barbarossa 1941 -Glantz
- One other factor...
- Perspective, again. (And the P-39 was a POS, but beautiful.)
- Nazis lost at Moscow before Lend Lease began
- An excellent summary of the land war
- No way. Without Lend Lease, the Soviets wouldn't have lasted past early 1943.
- re: Defeating the Nazis alone
- re: The Soviets copied the Soyuz and Progress from the US?
- The Soviets copied the Soyuz and Progress from the US?
