in the Soviet victory was Hitler's stupid racial policies. When the Germans rolled through places like the Ukraine, they were welcomed as liberators from Stalin's tyranny. It was just a few years after Stalin's forced starvation that resulted in an estimated 2 million deaths. Instead of capitalizing on that goodwill, the Germans started executing thousands and enslaving millions. The end result was, as you mentioned, a reawakening of Soviet patriotism. It also stiffened the resolve in other parts of the Soviet Union to resist the Germans.
As you mentioned, millions of Soviet soldiers were captured by the Germans in 1941. It wasn't long afterwards that Stalin made surrendering a state crime. Those Soviets who survived German captivity were sent home to imprisonment and forced labor after the war. One factor in the Soviet victory was Stalin's utter ruthlessness. While he is perhaps the biggest mass murderer of all history (with the possible exception of Mao), I doubt the Soviet Union would've survived the Nazi onslaught without Stalin.
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One other factor...
The whole thread (63 posts)
- Ronald who?
- Posthumous hindsight
- Yet another remarkable HZ thread...starts good, becomes great...thanks guys (n/t)
- "The Press Slept While Reagan Rambled" -- FAIR
- Alot of us remember
- re: Republican "non-persons," continued.
- Both ways?
- re: Both ways?
- re: Both ways
- The Soviets copied the Soyuz and Progress from the US?
- re: The Soviets copied the Soyuz and Progress from the US?
- re: Defeating the Nazis alone
- No way. Without Lend Lease, the Soviets wouldn't have lasted past early 1943.
- Nazis lost at Moscow before Lend Lease began
- One other factor...
- re: and another
- Absolutely
- A lesson for all politicians.
- PS
- "And now Europe is paying for his stupidity"
- Just my opinion
- You are insane. (n/t)
- Seconded
- Not Hitler, but Germany.
- Hitler wasn't just a man...........
- Nazi Germany and Hitler are inseperable
- Kind of like slavery and America?
- your reply
- yes exactly like slavery and America?
- "His true crime was taking the spirit and heart of Europe and extinguishing it, ....."
- You actually understate the case when you say...
- Invading France?
- Kind of like slavery and America?
- re: Not Hitler, but Germany.
- Not Hitler, but Germany.
- Seconded
- You are insane. (n/t)
- Just my opinion
- A lesson for all politicians.
- Absolutely
- re: and another
- Missing Link --Barbarossa 1941 -Glantz
- One other factor...
- Perspective, again. (And the P-39 was a POS, but beautiful.)
- Nazis lost at Moscow before Lend Lease began
- An excellent summary of the land war
- No way. Without Lend Lease, the Soviets wouldn't have lasted past early 1943.
- re: Defeating the Nazis alone
- re: The Soviets copied the Soyuz and Progress from the US?
- The Soviets copied the Soyuz and Progress from the US?
