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SDG — 6/3/2004 6:27:02 PM (archived)

Interesting, I actually crawled through that sub when I lived in Bremerhaven for a few months. Here's the website It is very small. Hardly something to compare to our modern subs. As far as advanced weapons go, I don't think it could have turned the tide in the war. German wolfpacks were effective, but they used radio a lot to communicate. Because they thought their Enigma machine was uncrackable, the Germans relied on it heavily. The allies were reading everything that was broadcast. No matter how good the XXI was, it couldn't be very effective if the Allies knew where it was going to pop up due to broadcasting its coordinates across enigma.

A more important weaponthe Germans fielded at the end of the war was the ME262. The allied fighters couldn't touch 'em. Ironically, Hitler delayed the project because he wanted a bomber not a fighter. By the time they started fielding them the Luftwaffe was very short of pilots and fuel.

-Steve G.

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- Yet another remarkable HZ thread...starts good, becomes great...thanks guys (n/t) - McFly - 6/3/2004 6:44:28 PM
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- re: Republican "non-persons," continued. - Tom Brosz - 6/2/2004 5:47:04 AM
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- Both ways? - Bowser - 6/2/2004 4:25:09 AM
  - re: Both ways? - Art Martin - 6/2/2004 4:05:42 PM
  - re: Both ways - Tom Brosz - 6/2/2004 5:16:30 AM
    - The Soviets copied the Soyuz and Progress from the US? - Bowser - 6/2/2004 5:48:53 AM
      - re: The Soviets copied the Soyuz and Progress from the US? - SDG - 6/2/2004 6:23:54 AM
        
        re: Defeating the Nazis alone - S - 6/2/2004 6:31:22 PM
        
        No way. Without Lend Lease, the Soviets wouldn't have lasted past early 1943. - Lee - 6/2/2004 11:19:37 PM
        
        Nazis lost at Moscow before Lend Lease began - S - 6/3/2004 5:53:45 PM
        
        One other factor... - Larry J - 6/3/2004 6:21:21 PM
        
        re: and another - SDG - 6/3/2004 6:43:29 PM
        
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        A lesson for all politicians. - Lee - 6/4/2004 10:16:22 PM
        
        PS - SDG - 6/5/2004 5:43:41 AM
        
        "And now Europe is paying for his stupidity" - SDG - 6/5/2004 4:50:17 AM
        
        Just my opinion - Lee - 6/5/2004 6:46:00 AM
        
        You are insane. (n/t) - SDG - 6/5/2004 5:24:15 PM
        
        Seconded - Tony - 6/6/2004 12:31:31 AM
        
        Not Hitler, but Germany. - Lee - 6/6/2004 2:55:49 AM
        
        Hitler wasn't just a man........... - Publius - 6/9/2004 2:44:24 AM
        
        Nazi Germany and Hitler are inseperable - SDG - 6/7/2004 7:48:53 PM
        
        Kind of like slavery and America? - Lee - 6/8/2004 2:15:56 AM
        
        your reply - SDG - 6/9/2004 3:10:09 PM
        
        yes exactly like slavery and America? - SDG - 6/8/2004 4:23:52 PM
        
        "His true crime was taking the spirit and heart of Europe and extinguishing it, ....." - Tony - 6/8/2004 1:53:32 PM
        
        You actually understate the case when you say... - Larry J - 6/9/2004 1:47:44 PM
        
        Some corrections - Lee - 6/9/2004 10:41:31 PM
        
        Invading France? - Lee - 6/8/2004 8:18:42 PM
        
        Damn youre funny - Tony - 6/9/2004 1:26:03 AM
        
        Typical liberal symbolism over substance is probably the main reason. - Lee - 6/9/2004 3:35:46 AM
        
        Something I just noticed about that picture. - Lee - 6/10/2004 7:34:12 AM
        
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        Congratulations! You guys have actually managed to squeeze a thread so far to the side of the screen that each word has its own line! Now I can really piss people off with this bloated and unnecessar… - Tom Brosz - 6/9/2004 4:56:21 PM
        
        This post has two purposes... - McFly - 6/10/2004 4:43:14 PM
        
        Thanks McFly - Daniel L - 6/10/2004 7:17:57 PM
        
        re: Not Hitler, but Germany. - Tom Brosz - 6/6/2004 5:53:26 AM
        
        Missing Link --Barbarossa 1941 -Glantz - S - 6/3/2004 5:57:48 PM
        
        Perspective, again. (And the P-39 was a POS, but beautiful.) - Bowser - 6/3/2004 4:00:18 AM
        
        No it had Russians in it. - Lee - 6/3/2004 4:53:18 AM
        
        The scourge of the Red Hordes. - Lee - 6/3/2004 6:02:39 AM
        
        You didn't bother to read the post, did you? - Bowser - 6/3/2004 5:40:31 AM
        
        Nor did you. - Lee - 6/3/2004 6:05:34 AM
        
        An excellent summary of the land war - Larry J - 6/2/2004 7:56:46 PM
        
        Good points - S - 6/3/2004 7:01:57 PM
        
        Uh...we had the A-Bomb a year after D-Day. - Tom Brosz - 6/3/2004 1:27:40 AM
        
        It takes more than that - Larry J - 6/3/2004 3:05:57 AM
        
        And the type XXI U-boats were coming online at war's end. - Lee - 6/3/2004 5:12:44 AM
        
        re: And the type XXI U-boats were coming online at war's end. - SDG - 6/3/2004 6:27:02 PM
        
        We would have come up with counters to the new threat - alcaray - 6/3/2004 4:23:33 PM
        
        Come to think of it, Bremerton is a naval shipyard. (n/t) - RobVG - 6/3/2004 3:25:56 PM
        
        That's a little weird - RobVG - 6/3/2004 3:20:42 PM

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