Exaggerating one's record is falsely claiming combat status

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Exaggerating one's record is falsely claiming combat status

Larry J — 8/19/2004 1:59:31 PM (archived)

Yes, John Kerry did serve in combat. No, he did not spend "Christmas in Cambodia" as he claimed many times. It's unlikely that he ever went into Cambodia, especially not to smuggle in Special Ops or CIA operatives. A Swiftboat was 55 feet long, loud, propellor driven*, and had full US Navy insignia - hardly the thing one would use for clandestine river operations. By his own book, it appears his first Purple Heart wasn't properly awarded because he admits that he hadn't come under fire, as discussed here.

Combat vets hold those who inflate their records in utter contempt, especially when they claim medals falsely.

*Most clandestine river operations used either shallow draft boats with a jet drive (less chance of fowling on river debris) or, even more likely, a native sampan.

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Hollywood preparing massive anti-Bush siege - Tom Brosz - 8/17/2004 4:28:35 PM
- cheap-film-wise, I think lots of folks are drooling over F911's success - alcaray - 8/18/2004 9:27:05 PM
- Hollywood makes what people will pay to see. Capitalism at work. - Bowser - 8/17/2004 7:24:38 PM
  - If that's the case, then explain 'Gigli', 'Reds', 'Ishtar' and a host of others - Larry J - 8/17/2004 10:01:47 PM
    - Are you serious? I suspect not. - Bowser - 8/18/2004 1:39:12 AM
      - Hollywood often makes movies that are absolute stinkers - Larry J - 8/18/2004 1:37:11 PM
        
        What was wrong with Get Shorty? - alcaray - 8/18/2004 9:24:39 PM
        
        It stank - Larry J - 8/19/2004 1:41:19 PM
        
        Read the book (n/t) - alcaray - 8/19/2004 3:48:11 PM
        
        re: Hollywood often makes movies that are absolute stinkers - Art Martin - 8/18/2004 6:31:12 PM
        
        What about the movie insulted you? - Larry J - 8/18/2004 6:41:23 PM
        
        re: What about the movie insulted you? - Art Martin - 8/19/2004 11:03:16 PM
        
        Charismatic leaders - Larry J - 8/20/2004 1:00:25 AM
        
        re: Charismatic leaders - Art Martin - 8/20/2004 6:23:32 PM
- Movie Title: Kerry's long war...Now that's funny - Scott Evil - 8/17/2004 4:47:25 PM
  - Oh... the Evil - SteveS - 8/18/2004 1:43:28 AM
  - 2 tours of duty Scott. Try to keep up. (n/t) - Tony - 8/17/2004 5:19:35 PM
    - re: You can't be serious... - Scott Evil - 8/17/2004 7:49:39 PM
      - OKaaaay - tony - 8/18/2004 1:56:09 AM
        
        Not all 'tours of duty' are created equal - Larry J - 8/18/2004 3:42:08 PM
        
        You just insulted pretty much a whole Navy-full of Viet Nam Vets (n/t) - alcaray - 8/18/2004 9:30:14 PM
        
        Try studying some military history - Larry J - 8/19/2004 6:00:16 PM
        
        Your personal attacks aside... - alcaray - 8/19/2004 6:36:03 PM
        
        It wasn't a personal attack, it was a statement of fact - Larry J - 8/19/2004 9:16:40 PM
        
        The problem here is either your reading comprehension... - alcaray - 8/19/2004 10:27:14 PM
        
        Instead of getting pissed at me... - Larry J - 8/20/2004 1:38:14 PM
        
        You are smoking like a whaler, now. This has nothing to do with your gaffe. (n/t) - alcaray - 8/20/2004 3:07:21 PM
        
        OK - Tony - 8/18/2004 4:11:49 PM
        
        "Next time any vet here says they served their country, I hope you dismiss it if they weren't actively being shot at." Like Bush? ;) (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/18/2004 6:15:03 PM
        
        Dunno. Does the current re-classification of service going on here count the National Guardsmen as Vets? :-) (n/t) - Tony - 8/18/2004 8:59:13 PM
        
        You set up the statement, not me. - Tom Brosz - 8/18/2004 11:14:41 PM
        
        Read this thread again. It's not me who is defining what counts as a "real" vet experience..... (n/t) - Tony - 8/19/2004 2:13:42 PM
        
        Wouldn't it be cool if Larry would say: "you are right, I misspoke" - alcaray - 8/19/2004 4:18:18 PM
        
        Why would I say something that obviously isn't true? - Larry J - 8/19/2004 6:00:48 PM
        
        If I were small-minded - alcaray - 8/19/2004 6:38:59 PM
        
        Not in my lifetime - Tony - 8/19/2004 4:36:15 PM
        
        You misunderstand - Larry J - 8/18/2004 6:07:06 PM
        
        Other than Harkin, who exactly is "Falsely claiming combat veteran status "? (n/t) - Tony - 8/18/2004 8:57:22 PM
        
        Exaggerating one's record is falsely claiming combat status - Larry J - 8/19/2004 1:59:31 PM
        
        You forgot Christmas in Cambodia ;-) - SteveS - 8/18/2004 2:01:58 AM
    - re: 2 tours of duty - Tom Brosz - 8/17/2004 6:36:30 PM
      - And where was George? - Mary Anne - 8/18/2004 3:22:43 AM
        
        That's kind-of the point - Scott Evil - 8/18/2004 1:34:18 PM
        
        Knee-jerk response #3 - Tom Brosz - 8/18/2004 7:28:58 AM
- "Then there's the media, which has dedicated itself to a Kerry victory." should be "Then there's the media, which have dedicated themselves to a Kerry victory." - David F Mayer - 8/17/2004 4:43:57 PM
  - should be "Then there are the media, which have dedicated themselves to a Kerry victory." (n/t) - DFM - 8/17/2004 4:45:01 PM

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