hold on there, sparky

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hold on there, sparky

Davin L. — 11/30/2004 5:44:33 PM (archived)

Can you explain how the ICC counts itself as credible when they not only use this language, but use seriously:

"94.5% of ICC States Parties Are Free or Partly Free"

I understand that the name 'partly free' is not an innovation of the ICC, that it was F.H. that came up with it to try to rank countries based on adherence to principles commonly seen as defining 'freedom' , but that 30% of the parties signing on to the ICC can not earn a "Free" rating, then why do you think that the ICC is anything more than where dictators can go to try to earn legitamacy?

Indeed, that the ICC has "only 5 not free " signitories out of roughly 100 is is telling. That means 5% of the ICC are bloodthirsty tyrants.

I am all for a an International Criminal Court- one that can hold US Citizens and US politicians as accountable as ANY other group, but the support of international criminal states of a particular International Criminal Court should give all of us pause.

I am not moved that the US has not signed onto THIS International Criminal Court notion, I AM moved, however, that our leadership expresses in general antipathy to the entire concept. Thats a criticism that can be made and made well.

Davin L.

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Ivory Coast Slaughter - p - 11/30/2004 3:36:44 PM
- re: Yes and... - Raoul - 11/30/2004 5:20:15 PM
  - Speaking of Africa & The Weasels, lest we forget, Rwanda - p - 11/30/2004 9:20:01 PM
    - re: Speaking of Africa & The Weasels, lest we forget, Rwanda - lingo - 1/19/2005 9:30:08 PM
    - Yeah right, it was the fault of France and Belgium, the Hutu's and Tutsie's had nothing to do with it? (n/t) - Publius - 12/2/2004 8:12:53 PM
    - re: Speaking of Rwanda v Iraq - Raoul - 11/30/2004 10:16:36 PM
      - The BIG difference is there is no known oil in Rwanda .... (n/t) - Publius - 12/1/2004 3:36:26 PM
        
        I would suggest that history shows the biggest differnece is that Belgium and the UN led the way in Rwanda. (n/t) - ebnelson - 12/2/2004 2:20:48 PM
      - Yeah That Makes It All Right - Mark Eby - 12/1/2004 1:22:50 AM
      - The difference between nice words and real deeds, and by the way, the war was provoked, and started by Iraq. Good luck next time - ebnelson - 11/30/2004 11:02:31 PM
    - re: Panties on heads is funny. - Scott Evil - 11/30/2004 9:53:27 PM
  - What does that have to do with French neo-imperialism and the acceptance of French slaughter of civilians? (n/t) - ebnelson - 11/30/2004 6:38:11 PM
  - hold on there, sparky - Davin L. - 11/30/2004 5:44:33 PM
    - This is a primary problem with the United Nations, too. - Tom Brosz - 11/30/2004 10:35:11 PM
      - The UN is not an alliance. Never was. Never was intended to be. - alcaray - 11/30/2004 10:57:16 PM
        
        re: The UN is not an alliance - Tom Brosz - 12/1/2004 1:49:11 AM
        
        So you think the UN equals a government? Or is your post moot? (n/t) - alcaray - 12/1/2004 5:33:11 PM
        
        re: So you think the UN equals a government? - Tom Brosz - 12/1/2004 10:41:45 PM
        
        You have spun this so increasingly far from any point tried to make about what you said! - alcaray - 12/2/2004 10:34:42 PM
        
        I'm talking about the U.N. as it actually is, and as it wants to become. - Tom Brosz - 12/3/2004 12:50:06 AM
        
        Now you can read the mind of an organization of member states! - alcaray - 12/3/2004 1:01:57 AM
        
        re: No. I read their reports. See thread above. - Tom Brosz - 12/3/2004 1:51:12 AM
        
        Much Too Subtle For Europhiles & UNaholics (n/t) - Mark Eby - 12/1/2004 3:37:30 AM
        
        Great thinking: I'll ad 'Europhiles' and 'UNaholics' next to BDS, Saddam Lover, Bush Hater, and - Davin L. - 12/1/2004 5:42:12 PM
        
        re: Great thinking - Tom Brosz - 12/1/2004 11:41:00 PM
    - Courts without accountability are another form of tyranny - Larry J - 11/30/2004 6:23:09 PM
      - turn your Auto-Disagreement mode off, Larry - Davin L. - 11/30/2004 8:15:45 PM
        
        And who is the UN accountable to? - Larry J - 11/30/2004 8:59:38 PM
        
        Gee, Larry- Thats kind of the whole point! - Davin L. - 12/1/2004 12:39:15 AM
        
        Circular argument - Larry J - 12/1/2004 3:09:57 PM
        
        Dear lord, you are just a combative old fellow looking for a fight. - Davin L. - 12/1/2004 3:43:20 PM
        
        re: Circular argument - gbaikie - 12/1/2004 3:32:03 PM
        
        re: Purpose and competences - Raoul - 11/30/2004 10:03:38 PM
        
        re: Purpose and competences - gbaikie - 12/1/2004 12:27:59 AM
      - re: the terrorists will hold the ICC accountable. - Scott Evil - 11/30/2004 6:41:37 PM
      - Think of it as a Supreme Court - who hold them accountable? (n/t) - Tony - 11/30/2004 6:24:26 PM
        
        Primarily the Congress - Larry J - 11/30/2004 7:17:32 PM
- You are VERY bad. Only thngs done by the USA or Israel count. France is above all that. No criticism allowed. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 11/30/2004 3:55:28 PM

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