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re: Purpose and competences

gbaikie — 12/1/2004 12:27:59 AM (archived)

You are missing Larry's excellent point:
"If courts without accountability are such a good idea, why bother to elect legislatures? Just let unelected and unaccountable courts make all the laws as they see fit. "

In America who makes laws?
Our Congress passes laws and requires the President to sign it- unless they override the President's veto (2/3rd of vote needed). But the Congress isn't the sole body which makes laws, our Supreme Court also makes laws. A simple example is the Miranda rights {MIRANDA v. ARIZONA, 384 U.S. 436 (1966) -http://publicdefender.cjis20.org/miranda.htm}. There is a constant American debate about whether the Supreme Court is or is not passing too many laws [liberal vs strict]. For instance you can not hope to understand the American debate about Gay marriage without being aware of this aspect.
Nor is the law making limited to Congress or the Supreme Court, as example the whole debate about abortion- swirls around the State vs Federal power [Roe vs. Wade]. And in reality making laws isn't even limited to govt- individuals by challenging a law in affect make laws.
Or anytime anything is new to the world [for example the upcoming suborbital transportation] those involved will be making laws.

ICC is an abomination similar enough to muslim "clerics" issuing Fatwas.

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Ivory Coast Slaughter - p - 11/30/2004 3:36:44 PM
- re: Yes and... - Raoul - 11/30/2004 5:20:15 PM
  - Speaking of Africa & The Weasels, lest we forget, Rwanda - p - 11/30/2004 9:20:01 PM
    - re: Speaking of Africa & The Weasels, lest we forget, Rwanda - lingo - 1/19/2005 9:30:08 PM
    - Yeah right, it was the fault of France and Belgium, the Hutu's and Tutsie's had nothing to do with it? (n/t) - Publius - 12/2/2004 8:12:53 PM
    - re: Speaking of Rwanda v Iraq - Raoul - 11/30/2004 10:16:36 PM
      - The BIG difference is there is no known oil in Rwanda .... (n/t) - Publius - 12/1/2004 3:36:26 PM
        
        I would suggest that history shows the biggest differnece is that Belgium and the UN led the way in Rwanda. (n/t) - ebnelson - 12/2/2004 2:20:48 PM
      - Yeah That Makes It All Right - Mark Eby - 12/1/2004 1:22:50 AM
      - The difference between nice words and real deeds, and by the way, the war was provoked, and started by Iraq. Good luck next time - ebnelson - 11/30/2004 11:02:31 PM
    - re: Panties on heads is funny. - Scott Evil - 11/30/2004 9:53:27 PM
  - What does that have to do with French neo-imperialism and the acceptance of French slaughter of civilians? (n/t) - ebnelson - 11/30/2004 6:38:11 PM
  - hold on there, sparky - Davin L. - 11/30/2004 5:44:33 PM
    - This is a primary problem with the United Nations, too. - Tom Brosz - 11/30/2004 10:35:11 PM
      - The UN is not an alliance. Never was. Never was intended to be. - alcaray - 11/30/2004 10:57:16 PM
        
        re: The UN is not an alliance - Tom Brosz - 12/1/2004 1:49:11 AM
        
        So you think the UN equals a government? Or is your post moot? (n/t) - alcaray - 12/1/2004 5:33:11 PM
        
        re: So you think the UN equals a government? - Tom Brosz - 12/1/2004 10:41:45 PM
        
        You have spun this so increasingly far from any point tried to make about what you said! - alcaray - 12/2/2004 10:34:42 PM
        
        I'm talking about the U.N. as it actually is, and as it wants to become. - Tom Brosz - 12/3/2004 12:50:06 AM
        
        Now you can read the mind of an organization of member states! - alcaray - 12/3/2004 1:01:57 AM
        
        re: No. I read their reports. See thread above. - Tom Brosz - 12/3/2004 1:51:12 AM
        
        Much Too Subtle For Europhiles & UNaholics (n/t) - Mark Eby - 12/1/2004 3:37:30 AM
        
        Great thinking: I'll ad 'Europhiles' and 'UNaholics' next to BDS, Saddam Lover, Bush Hater, and - Davin L. - 12/1/2004 5:42:12 PM
        
        re: Great thinking - Tom Brosz - 12/1/2004 11:41:00 PM
    - Courts without accountability are another form of tyranny - Larry J - 11/30/2004 6:23:09 PM
      - turn your Auto-Disagreement mode off, Larry - Davin L. - 11/30/2004 8:15:45 PM
        
        And who is the UN accountable to? - Larry J - 11/30/2004 8:59:38 PM
        
        Gee, Larry- Thats kind of the whole point! - Davin L. - 12/1/2004 12:39:15 AM
        
        Circular argument - Larry J - 12/1/2004 3:09:57 PM
        
        Dear lord, you are just a combative old fellow looking for a fight. - Davin L. - 12/1/2004 3:43:20 PM
        
        re: Circular argument - gbaikie - 12/1/2004 3:32:03 PM
        
        re: Purpose and competences - Raoul - 11/30/2004 10:03:38 PM
        
        re: Purpose and competences - gbaikie - 12/1/2004 12:27:59 AM
      - re: the terrorists will hold the ICC accountable. - Scott Evil - 11/30/2004 6:41:37 PM
      - Think of it as a Supreme Court - who hold them accountable? (n/t) - Tony - 11/30/2004 6:24:26 PM
        
        Primarily the Congress - Larry J - 11/30/2004 7:17:32 PM
- You are VERY bad. Only thngs done by the USA or Israel count. France is above all that. No criticism allowed. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 11/30/2004 3:55:28 PM

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