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How can an invention be a basic right?

Lee — 8/7/2009 3:57:04 AM (archived)

Healthcare is an invention. Medicine advances by discovery and innovation. There's nothing inherrent about it. If being healthy is a civil right, then has everyone who's died of a disease had their civil rights violated? Are we second class citizens because people in the future will have a cure for cancer, while those of us alive today are forced to endure it and die from it? Should timeism dictate which of us have access to medicine and treatments?

The notion that healthcare is a civil right is silly.

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The whole thread (51 posts)

What would happen if - - - ? - Bowser - 8/7/2009 2:46:08 AM
- That was interesting. - Bowser - 8/10/2009 4:23:02 AM
  - No imagine. - Lee - 8/10/2009 6:39:14 PM
  - re: "$oul$" - TB - 8/10/2009 3:51:17 PM
    - A good argument except for the fatal flaw. - Bowser - 8/11/2009 5:00:49 AM
      - re: fatal flaws - TB - 8/11/2009 4:43:00 PM
      - Great post Bowz - Lindy - 8/11/2009 1:17:33 PM
  - "On good days..." - Lindy - 8/10/2009 1:33:14 PM
- How can an invention be a basic right? - Lee - 8/7/2009 3:57:04 AM
  - re: How can an invention be a basic right? - Doug Ellison - 8/8/2009 7:51:13 AM
    - A good argument can be made - FrankC - 8/8/2009 7:45:31 PM
      - re: "Things that must be paid for by others are not inherent rights." - alcaray - 8/9/2009 1:15:16 AM
      - In my state - Eri - 8/8/2009 11:18:15 PM
      - Government health care - TB - 8/8/2009 10:03:30 PM
        
        It is a bad situation for those in the category of Eri and Alcaray - FrankC - 8/9/2009 3:42:45 AM
        
        re: It is a bad situation - TB - 8/9/2009 3:56:11 AM
        
        I.E. - Eri - 8/9/2009 4:02:07 AM
        
        Did she ever think of doing something other than being a masseuse? - Lee - 8/9/2009 12:57:22 PM
        
        Are you just stupid? - Eri - 8/9/2009 5:20:20 PM
        
        Oh I experienced it for a lot longer than a few months. - Lee - 8/10/2009 1:46:28 AM
        
        This is what my son is going to apply for... - Jody - 8/9/2009 6:19:13 PM
        
        Free insulin - TB - 8/9/2009 4:34:27 AM
        
        Dayam! - Eri - 8/9/2009 4:53:05 AM
        
        The booklets are already out there. - TB - 8/9/2009 5:00:01 AM
        
        Then why does no one know of these resources? - Eri - 8/9/2009 5:31:37 AM
        
        How do you know that? - TB - 8/9/2009 6:11:32 AM
        
        Because I know people who have been to the Pharmacy when they couldn't afford the drug. - Eri - 8/9/2009 5:21:49 PM
        
        Maybe this will help... - Jody - 8/9/2009 7:13:19 PM
        
        The problem with SS disability is it takes a minimum of 6 months to get it through - Eri - 8/9/2009 3:46:19 AM
        
        It's a good thing we're on flame. - Eri - 8/8/2009 11:10:40 PM
        
        I also don't qualify for either program. - alcaray - 8/9/2009 1:20:09 AM
        
        Options. - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/10/2009 1:25:52 AM
        
        SS disability - Eri - 8/9/2009 3:50:13 AM
        
        If you're actually disabled, you might qualify for Medicaid - TB - 8/9/2009 1:39:16 AM
        
        Medicaid Eligibility - Eri - 8/9/2009 3:57:32 AM
        
        What do you want? - TB - 8/9/2009 4:06:09 AM
        
        What do I want? - Eri - 8/9/2009 5:28:08 PM
        
        So, because what we have doesn't work, we sit on our hands and do nothing? - Eri - 8/9/2009 5:23:54 PM
        
        The whole frigging point is that it DOES work. - TB - 8/9/2009 6:42:51 PM
    - Are you saying that clean water and a house are innate and basic rights? - Lee - 8/8/2009 12:49:32 PM
      - Forget it, Lee. - TB - 8/8/2009 5:53:00 PM
        
        We're not in France; we're in the U.S. - Eri - 8/8/2009 11:24:06 PM
        
        re: Forget it, Lee. - Lindy - 8/8/2009 9:15:26 PM
      - re: Are you saying that clean water and a house are innate and basic rights? - Doug Ellison - 8/8/2009 2:03:32 PM
        
        Those are services, not rights. - Lee - 8/8/2009 11:25:54 PM
        
        That is the program. - alcaray - 8/8/2009 5:39:17 PM
        
        For God's sake, don't tempt him! (n/t) - Eri - 8/8/2009 5:33:45 PM
  - Not necessarily so. - Eri - 8/7/2009 4:17:31 AM
    - "Pursue" is not the same thing as "force others to give it to us." (n/t) - TB - 8/7/2009 12:52:23 PM
      - Nobody is standing there with a gun. - Eri - 8/7/2009 9:51:04 PM
        
        re: Nobody is standing there with a gun. - TB - 8/8/2009 12:45:49 AM

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