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Forget it, Lee.

Nobody wants to come within five miles of any real analysis or core philosophies here.

Having an entire population be wards of the State IS "civilised" now.

Still, you'd think if having the government run everything was the ticket to prosperity, those nations where the government ran everything would be serving as shining examples instead of horrible warnings.

Over in France, where market forces--which "civilised" people apparently don't believe in--have inserted themselves into the health care system, the state system is beginning to do exactly the sorts of things private insurance companies do. If an insurance company was a state-mandated monopoly.

So would any such system we end up with here.

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