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1,182 - Donald - 11/14/2004 9:05:35 PM
- More Than Just Don's Numbers - Mark Eby - 11/15/2004 12:07:41 AM
- Meanwhile: - Donald - 11/14/2004 9:09:11 PM

ODB C'est morte! - p - 11/14/2004 9:50:19 PM

Torture houses - Tom Brosz - 11/13/2004 7:17:33 AM
- Links, please. (n/t) - DFM - 11/14/2004 5:31:24 PM
  - re: Links, please. - Tom Brosz - 11/14/2004 8:22:44 PM
- I thought you were talking about Ahu Ghraib and Guantanamo (n/t) - LJ - 11/13/2004 6:37:22 PM
  - It's just part of your programing (n/t) - gbaikie - 11/13/2004 11:01:43 PM
- It's just their way of having fun. Are you judging their culture? (n/t) - Gary - 11/13/2004 6:27:49 PM

1,178 - Donald - 11/14/2004 3:08:46 PM

Really, most sincerely dead. - Tom Brosz - 11/11/2004 4:20:10 AM
- Idiots celebrate by firing their guns into the air. - David F Mayer - 11/11/2004 10:12:35 PM
- Teh lead brick make me think of 'Aliens III' in the lead smelter scene. Someone told me that Arafat has put the 'fun' back in 'funeral' (n/t) - ebnelson - 11/11/2004 5:43:10 PM
  - "Aliens III?" The series ended after "Aliens." There were no further sequels. I have spoken! (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 11/11/2004 9:31:46 PM
- Reminds me of an old Clarence Darrow quote... - Larry J - 11/11/2004 5:35:04 PM
  - Being much less than perfect........ - Publius - 11/14/2004 4:41:53 AM
- No he's not! He's pining for the fiords! (n/t) - Jacob Samorodin - 11/11/2004 3:13:16 PM
- This just in, Arafat STILL dead! (n/t) - p - 11/11/2004 3:01:20 PM
- Can we make sure of that? - Larry J - 11/11/2004 2:24:01 PM
- The world has lost a good, noble man of peace... but on the bright side - R.L. - 11/11/2004 6:21:48 AM
- His body should be tossed into the nearest dumpster. - David F Mayer - 11/11/2004 6:14:31 AM
  - Run a sewage pipeline to the gravesite. Saves people the trouble of going all that way to piss on it. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 11/11/2004 9:32:58 PM
  - then do it yourself, big fella - Daniel - 11/11/2004 5:09:33 PM
- Good riddance - Donald - 11/11/2004 5:24:01 AM
  - The main thing is for him to be kept out of Jerusalem - Daniel - 11/11/2004 7:57:13 PM
    - The carrot and the stick - SteveS - 11/11/2004 8:48:44 PM

Okay, I'll go ahead and post it - FrankC - 11/12/2004 10:35:31 PM
- Awww, why'd you go and post that?! - R.L. - 11/13/2004 2:43:04 AM
  - Ooo! Ooo! Lindsey Lohan broke up with her boyfriend! - Mary Anne - 11/13/2004 3:00:23 AM
    - One of the things I doubt I'll ever understand... - Larry J - 11/13/2004 6:32:09 PM
    - Jessica Simpson has a Yeast infection- film at 11 - R.L. - 11/13/2004 3:32:31 AM
      - re: Jessica Simpson has a Yeast infection- film at 11 - p - 11/13/2004 3:02:47 PM
        
        I have had dogs that showed more intelligence than jessica simpson.... - R.L. - 11/13/2004 7:45:02 PM
        
        Who the hell are you talking about? - Tom Brosz - 11/13/2004 7:56:39 PM
        
        LOL (n/t) - R.L. - 11/13/2004 9:03:49 PM
        
        re: LOL - Tom Brosz - 11/13/2004 10:50:24 PM
        
        LOL......You really need to get out more guy,,,,,,,,,,,, (n/t) - Publius - 11/14/2004 4:20:51 AM
        
        I guess you won't answer the question on off-topic - Mark Eby - 11/14/2004 12:32:16 AM
  - crap story, crap guy - FrankC - 11/13/2004 2:49:18 AM

The greatest person in human history - gbaikie - 11/13/2004 11:29:52 AM
- Typical Arab hyperbole. It means nothing. Tomorrow the same guy might call Arafat an evil demon. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 11/14/2004 2:48:02 AM

1,172 - Donald - 11/13/2004 9:22:44 PM

A blogger from Mosul - Tom Brosz - 11/13/2004 9:01:33 PM

A modest proposal - p - 11/13/2004 3:38:53 PM
- Is that where they stand in front of election sites and shake their booties for their candidate? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 11/13/2004 7:42:56 PM

PEST claims yet another 'victim' It's an epidemic!!! - p - 11/12/2004 1:20:30 AM
- Bush breaks 60 million vote mark... - Tom Brosz - 11/13/2004 1:50:36 AM
  - Finally, Carville says something that is worth agreeing with. (n/t) - ebnelson - 11/13/2004 6:41:57 PM
  - Me, I haven't stopped smiling & I don't intend to (n/t) - p - 11/13/2004 3:29:13 AM

Opportunity for Peace now that Arafat has finally croaked?? - David F Mayer - 11/12/2004 5:56:19 PM
- People get the politicians they deserve (n/t) - Gary - 11/13/2004 6:32:12 PM
- Skeptical - Donald - 11/12/2004 8:42:35 PM

10 Days Later Media Discovers Math - Mark Eby - 11/13/2004 4:23:41 PM

Conflict in Holland - phil - 11/12/2004 4:15:13 AM
- It brought up an interesting side-issue - alcaray - 11/12/2004 7:04:44 PM
  - re: It brought up an interesting side-issue - phil - 11/12/2004 8:42:11 PM
    - Also, mosques are being used for non-religious meetings. - Mary Anne - 11/13/2004 1:03:41 PM
      - re: Also, mosques are being used for non-religious meetings. - phil - 11/13/2004 3:13:33 PM
- Sooner or later - FrankC - 11/12/2004 6:16:53 AM
  - It's good to see European folks standing up for themselves. - Lee - 11/12/2004 8:20:57 AM
    - Anyone doubt that Lee would have applauded the burning and bombing of black churches 40 years ago? - R.L. - 11/13/2004 2:33:18 AM
      - Like I said the name calling isn't working anymore. - Lee - 11/13/2004 3:26:05 AM
        
        It's a name you have gone out of your way to make for yourself - R.L. - 11/13/2004 3:45:45 AM
        
        Scream all you want. - Lee - 11/13/2004 3:52:29 AM
        
        Trash like you have already lost - R.L. - 11/13/2004 4:25:55 AM

One of the post-election just-kiddings - alcaray - 11/11/2004 4:19:55 PM
- Now that they know for sure - Tony - 11/11/2004 5:48:21 PM
  - Well they did claim another "mission accomplished" the other day - alcaray - 11/11/2004 5:56:33 PM
    - Not to mention disbanding the police, National Guard, prison services... (n/t) - Tony - 11/11/2004 8:59:48 PM
      - Three years without an attack on America says something. - Tom Brosz - 11/11/2004 9:29:10 PM
        
        The MacGyver Factor - Robert - 11/12/2004 1:42:19 AM
        
        Yipes... - Tom Brosz - 11/13/2004 7:35:01 AM
        
        Cause and effect reversed? - Tom Brosz - 11/12/2004 3:32:58 AM
        
        Cause and effect can be manipulated - Robert - 11/12/2004 5:25:16 PM
        
        Thanks! - Tom Brosz - 11/12/2004 6:28:14 PM
        
        de nada - Robert - 11/13/2004 3:02:03 AM
- re: One of the post-election just-kiddings - phil - 11/11/2004 4:23:29 PM

MARINE SHOT IN 'FRIENDLY FIRE' - Eric - 11/13/2004 3:38:48 AM

Quagmire Update - Donald - 11/13/2004 1:33:08 AM
- 1,168 - Donald - 11/13/2004 1:34:26 AM

Post Election Stress Disorder FREE Counciling Available!!! - phil - 11/10/2004 11:52:16 PM
- "this is a normal psychological response to a severe and disillusioning situation. Any suggestion that this is not a serious problem arises from a political agenda." - Lindy - 11/11/2004 5:01:35 PM
  - re: "this is a normal psychological response to a severe and disillusioning situation. Any suggestion that this is not a serious problem arises from a political agenda." - phil - 11/11/2004 11:58:48 PM
    - "Learn to love, not hate." - Mary Anne - 11/12/2004 12:02:54 AM
      - "Crazy...hey but that's how it goes....Millions of people living as foes....But maybe it's not to late to learn how to love and forget how to hate." - alcaray - 11/12/2004 7:46:10 PM
        
        ~heh~ We'd have to amend the Constitution to allow non-nativeborns to be elected. - Mary Anne - 11/12/2004 10:49:58 PM
- You guys are lousy winners (n/t) - alcaray - 11/11/2004 12:39:10 AM
  - excuse me - FrankC - 11/11/2004 4:50:50 AM
    - The crowing started immediately. - Mary Anne - 11/11/2004 11:33:26 AM
      - Odd. My recollection was an awful lot of people all over the world saying "the idiots won!" Do I need to post links? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 11/11/2004 9:34:45 PM
      - What were we supposed to do, apologize? - Larry J - 11/11/2004 8:36:37 PM
        
        No. Be gracious. - Mary Anne - 11/11/2004 8:42:08 PM
  - Look in a mirror - p - 11/11/2004 3:07:01 AM
    - And I said it before: - Mary Anne - 11/11/2004 11:37:44 AM
      - victimhood nirvana - p - 11/11/2004 3:15:35 PM
        
        "leftist paradise"??? - Mary Anne - 11/11/2004 3:28:59 PM
        
        re: "leftist paradise"??? - phil - 11/13/2004 12:38:23 AM
        
        The mantra. - Mary Anne - 11/13/2004 1:23:40 AM
  - Sounds like they have Narcissistic Personality Disorder... - Larry J - 11/11/2004 2:03:14 AM
    - re: I have all 9 of those traits... - Scott Evil - 11/11/2004 2:39:51 PM
    - I could make that fit you guys, too. - Mary Anne - 11/11/2004 11:56:04 AM
      - I have to agree with you Mary Anne.......... - Lindy - 11/11/2004 2:44:18 PM
      - re: I could make that fit you guys, too. - Larry J - 11/11/2004 2:32:35 PM
        
        There's enough childish demonizing going on on both sides. - Mary Anne - 11/11/2004 3:12:38 PM
    - Sounds like a description of the US of A - LJ - 11/11/2004 2:35:49 AM
  - Hear, hear! (n/t) - Mary Anne - 11/11/2004 12:42:48 AM
- Gotta believe that Darwin is looking down and smiling.. - FrankC - 11/11/2004 12:18:23 AM

WINNING IN THE RED STATES - gbaikie - 11/13/2004 12:43:39 AM

Generosity Index by state - p - 11/10/2004 3:02:16 PM
- Checking the Technical Notes - Mary Anne - 11/10/2004 5:59:28 PM
  - re: "Cash isn't everything" - Fox - 11/12/2004 10:13:53 PM
  - re: Technical Notes - Tom Brosz - 11/10/2004 8:06:33 PM
- Possibly because the guvmint taketh from the blue and giveth to the red? - Tony - 11/10/2004 3:17:09 PM
  - Wow...what happened to Social Responsiblity? - Tom Brosz - 11/10/2004 5:06:16 PM
    - Just occurred to me......... - Tony - 11/12/2004 5:18:23 PM
      - You're right, of course. - Tom Brosz - 11/12/2004 7:06:54 PM
    - Well pardon me Tom n Steve - Tony - 11/10/2004 5:15:25 PM
      - You might be joking. - Tom Brosz - 11/10/2004 7:51:33 PM
      - Well, I did give respect in the form of a ? - SteveS - 11/10/2004 5:57:55 PM
  - Isn't this a personal income reflection? - SteveS - 11/10/2004 4:32:53 PM

How is Fallujah coming? Any recent updates? (n/t) - David F Mayer - 11/12/2004 6:25:59 PM
- Never mind Fallujah, watch Mosul (n/t) - Tony - 11/12/2004 7:28:54 PM
- Try this link too. - Tom Brosz - 11/12/2004 6:46:15 PM
- re: recent updates - Tom Brosz - 11/12/2004 6:43:38 PM

Greens and Libertarians call for Ohio recount (Green's Press Release) - Chris Vancil - 11/12/2004 12:28:20 AM
- Remember Venezuela? - Tom Brosz - 11/12/2004 6:32:08 PM
- Whatever makes your spirit soar... - FrankC - 11/12/2004 5:46:03 PM
- re: What makes all you fools think that you can figure out how we in the VRWC fixed this election? - Scott Evil - 11/12/2004 2:44:54 PM
- The fantasies aren't going to work this time. - Tom Brosz - 11/12/2004 3:59:32 AM
  - It wasn't a fantasy LAST time. - Buck Galaxy - 11/12/2004 5:02:33 PM
    - Yes. It was. - Tom Brosz - 11/12/2004 6:01:38 PM
      - re: Please don't. - Scott Evil - 11/12/2004 6:08:27 PM
  - re: They can recount to their hearts delight...They don't understand the true scope of the VRWC. - Scott Evil - 11/12/2004 2:53:45 PM
    - I thought the Libertarians were charter members (n/t) - alcaray - 11/12/2004 4:17:14 PM
- Professional losers DO seem to think alike, don't they? (n/t) - p - 11/12/2004 1:22:23 AM

The crimes of Yasser Arafat - Tom Brosz - 11/11/2004 11:17:34 PM
- well, he did win a Nobel peace prize, after all - Daniel - 11/12/2004 8:03:07 AM
  - Check out the current winner... - Tom Brosz - 11/12/2004 6:04:09 PM
- Thanks for the info (n/t) - David F Mayer - 11/12/2004 2:52:40 AM

Fallujah - Tom Brosz - 11/8/2004 5:29:36 PM
- More Bilal Hussein photos - Tom Brosz - 11/8/2004 9:47:02 PM
  - Except for the few photos of insurgents, he would have you believe Americans are targeting civilians. - ebnelson - 11/8/2004 11:05:45 PM
    - More "Propaganda crap from the Islamo-fascists." - Lindy - 11/9/2004 4:04:55 PM
      - Then Nazis who resisted the occuptaion were insurgents - ebnelson - 11/9/2004 5:16:59 PM
        
        Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11 nor were they an immediate threat to the US - Lindy - 11/9/2004 5:39:10 PM
        
        So we let them bomb us first? - ebnelson - 11/9/2004 7:20:15 PM
        
        There has been plenty of time to locate Saddam's plans for pre-emptive strike against the US (guffaw!) (n/t) - alcaray - 11/9/2004 10:11:09 PM
      - re: Propaganda crap - Tom Brosz - 11/9/2004 4:51:58 PM
        
        Who was Zarqawi BEFORE this war? - Lindy - 11/9/2004 5:46:39 PM
        
        re: Who was Zarqawi BEFORE this war? He was Al Qaeda's man to Baghdad, that is who. (n/t) - ebnelson - 11/9/2004 7:21:30 PM
        
        If we had never invaded Iraq, Zarqawi would be cutting heads off in Afghanistan. - Tom Brosz - 11/9/2004 6:28:48 PM
  - "Pretty much what you'd expect" - what do you mean, Tom? - LJ - 11/8/2004 10:03:25 PM
    - This. - Tom Brosz - 11/8/2004 10:16:24 PM
      - Saws versus 500 lb. bombs........... - Lindy - 11/9/2004 4:06:37 PM
        
        Tell ya what, Lindy. - Tom Brosz - 11/9/2004 4:57:19 PM
        
        Apples and Oranges - Lindy - 11/9/2004 5:50:03 PM
        
        Action vs inaction - Tom Brosz - 11/9/2004 6:23:27 PM
        
        I hope nobody notices the arrows clutched in the American Eagles claw - alcaray. - 11/11/2004 12:43:50 AM
        
        You see those as equivalent? Cripes. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 11/11/2004 2:25:35 AM
        
        I see them both as a symbol of warlikeness that should not be used to infer specific intentions. In that respect, equivalent. (n/t) - alcaray - 11/11/2004 5:10:24 PM
        
        Let me make sure I get this straight... - Tom Brosz - 11/12/2004 4:07:11 AM
        
        I said exactly what I meant twice before: no intent can be inferred from either symbol. - alcaray - 11/12/2004 4:34:45 PM
        
        Was it worth a shot? - Lindy - 11/10/2004 4:21:27 AM
        
        re: Look in a mirror - Scott Evil - 11/9/2004 6:02:03 PM
      - re: This. - LJ - 11/8/2004 10:27:16 PM
        
        Just something to keep in mind. - Tom Brosz - 11/8/2004 10:35:34 PM
- My guess is that most of the terrorists have fled. I have the suspicion that the USA is hitting empty targets. - David F Mayer - 11/8/2004 6:41:28 PM
  - To win, the insurgents have only to not lose---run away,fight another day........... (n/t) - Publius - 11/9/2004 5:11:29 PM
  - Are you suggesting that it's the equivalent of hitting jelly with a sledgehammer? (n/t) - Jacob Samorodin - 11/9/2004 4:34:19 PM
    - Good analogy........... - Lindy - 11/9/2004 5:51:25 PM
  - Belmont Club's take on this - Tom Brosz - 11/8/2004 9:14:23 PM
    - remember the lesson of Viet Nam...... - Publius - 11/9/2004 8:41:33 PM
      - You don't need popular support if you have fear. - Tom Brosz - 11/9/2004 9:32:21 PM
  - I'd like to think the Marines have thought of that. - Tom Brosz - 11/8/2004 7:33:08 PM
    - On "getting treatrment" for the "slippery bastards"............. - Lindy - 11/9/2004 4:19:30 PM
      - . (n/t) - . - 11/12/2004 4:13:41 PM

1,156 - Donald - 11/12/2004 2:16:01 PM

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