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"Wrong War, Wrong Place, Wrong Time." - Tom Brosz - 10/7/2004 4:22:13 PM
- Of course he was wrong, Douglas MacArthur was a Republican..............n/t (n/t) - Publius - 10/7/2004 9:14:41 PM
- re: My guess is that you could find Greeks who said it...war is the last thing you do. - Chris Vancil - 10/7/2004 8:21:37 PM
- Seems to me.... - Art Martin - 10/7/2004 7:28:01 PM
  - I agree. - Tom Brosz - 10/8/2004 5:55:09 PM
  - Sigh. - Bowser - 10/7/2004 8:35:53 PM
  - re: MacAurther was a Perienial Pessimist, just like John Kerry. - Scott Evil - 10/7/2004 8:23:23 PM
    - And what part of North Korea did McArthur want to nuke? - Bowser - 10/8/2004 3:52:15 AM
      - MacAurther was a Perienial Pessimist, just like John Kerry - Scott Evil - 10/8/2004 3:31:14 PM
  - re: Couldn't agree more... - Chris Vancil - 10/7/2004 8:17:43 PM
- And the point? - Bowser - 10/7/2004 6:16:07 PM
- Yet the dems get away with that and so much worse today. - ebnelson - 10/7/2004 4:38:55 PM
  - re: Yes, and Bush get away with worse and so much more. (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 10/7/2004 8:24:15 PM
    - such as? (n/t) - ebnelson - 10/7/2004 9:52:46 PM
      - re: You realize you're admitting that you don't read other people's posts here. (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 10/9/2004 2:29:45 AM

Party of tolerance update: Demothugs invade and ransack Republican office in Wisconsin - ebnelson - 10/6/2004 8:34:25 PM
- OK, we have links. - Mary Anne - 10/7/2004 10:48:39 AM
  - So now you blame the victim as well? - ebnelson - 10/7/2004 3:48:18 PM
    - One day you'll learn to read again. - Mary Anne - 10/7/2004 11:52:17 PM
      - It is so obvious that you appreciate Cervantes................n/t (n/t) - Publius - 10/8/2004 8:11:28 PM
    - read it again (n/t) - alcaray - 10/7/2004 4:56:02 PM
      - I did. she blames the dad for the union thug's attack on his daughter. (n/t) - ebnelson - 10/7/2004 6:29:50 PM
        
        I did not at first comprehend the depth of your misunderstanding - alcaray - 10/7/2004 6:45:22 PM
        
        I knew precisely what Mary Anne was referring to - ebnelson - 10/7/2004 9:55:43 PM
        
        read the thread. The "demothug" was the son of the "victim". (n/t) - alcaray - 10/7/2004 10:55:07 PM
        
        That was a theory. Ever proven? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 10/8/2004 5:44:06 PM
        
        No more than the West Allis story has been. No police complaint, you see. - Mary Anne - 10/8/2004 9:54:02 PM
  - re: we have links. - Tom Brosz - 10/7/2004 3:36:55 PM
    - If I hadn't witnessed this kind of behavior first-hand, it might not have occurred to me. - Mary Anne - 10/8/2004 12:12:25 AM
    - Skepticism is healthy. Everyone should apply it. (n/t) - alcaray - 10/7/2004 4:57:46 PM
      - Preferably consistently. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 10/7/2004 5:41:16 PM
        
        And who found the link to the Orlando incident? (n/t) - Fox - 10/8/2004 12:48:05 AM
- Kinda reminds one of the Rs preventing Fla vote counting, doesn't it? - Bowser - 10/7/2004 4:27:35 AM
  - R's were against selective recounting. - REB - 10/7/2004 4:03:59 PM
  - YOu mean where the dems were going to selectively recount only democrat precincts and exclude republican ones? - ebnelson - 10/7/2004 3:47:12 PM
- Links. - Tom Brosz - 10/7/2004 4:01:47 AM
  - re: The Republican Party of Wisconsin website? - Chris Vancil - 10/7/2004 6:05:00 AM
    - I looked for it there last night and didn't find it - Fox - 10/8/2004 12:57:13 AM
    - A bit more... - Tom Brosz - 10/7/2004 6:24:41 AM
      - This looks like the Orlando incident... - Mary Anne - 10/7/2004 1:12:12 PM
- Party of Lincoln update: Nelson joins Cheney in distortion and disinformation (n/t) - Fox - 10/7/2004 12:07:18 AM
  - More like, 'democrats seek to rationalize thuggery when it is expedient' (n/t) - ebnelson - 10/7/2004 12:22:52 AM
- So you guys still claim there's no polarizing of the nation? - Art Martin - 10/6/2004 10:57:33 PM
  - "Pacifist left." Now I've got to clean the Pepsi out of my keyboard again. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 10/7/2004 3:53:33 AM
    - Just using a label that your bunch has insinuated many times. - Art Martin - 10/7/2004 7:36:45 PM
    - There is such thing as the pacifist left - alcaray - 10/7/2004 5:53:23 PM
  - Yes, yes, blame the victim. The dems are sewing the wind. (n/t) - ebnelson - 10/7/2004 12:23:48 AM
    - The way you keep breaking wind, it *needs* sewing. - Fox - 10/8/2004 12:52:15 AM
    - Link first. "Victim" later. - Mary Anne - 10/7/2004 12:43:34 AM
- re: BTW where is the link. I don't find it in news or with google. (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 10/6/2004 9:43:10 PM
  - search terms: (+milwaukee +republican +graber +"west allis") comes up empty on the incident. - Mary Anne - 10/7/2004 12:38:08 AM
    - I get the feeling searching Snopes is more appropriate - Fox - 10/7/2004 2:06:30 AM
      - I did, however, find this - Fox - 10/7/2004 3:05:51 AM
        
        re: I did, however, find this - gbaikie - 10/7/2004 5:47:49 AM
- re: Ransack? Where was that in the article? (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 10/6/2004 9:31:06 PM

Ex-key aide to McCain gives support to Kerry - Bowser - 10/7/2004 7:44:01 PM
- Odd that he refers to 'Bull Moose' (n/t) - ebnelson - 10/7/2004 8:19:17 PM
  - Lots of interest in that old election lately. - Mary Anne - 10/8/2004 1:03:05 AM
    - Nostalgia for the days ......... - Publius - 10/8/2004 8:07:36 PM
- Bush and Cheney have "waged an unprecedentedly cynical and divisive campaign." Who could disagree with that. - Chris Vancil - 10/7/2004 8:09:17 PM

Bush ahead in the "bean" poll. - RobVG - 10/8/2004 3:09:36 AM
- Does this imply that Bush is a has-bean?.......... (n/t) - Publius - 10/8/2004 7:51:10 PM

Bremer speaks out about Pers. Bush and the war on terror - ebnelson - 10/8/2004 4:04:34 PM
- And there you have it - FrankC - 10/8/2004 4:55:29 PM
  - re: Hugo Grotius: De jure belli ac Pacis - Raoul - 10/8/2004 7:11:59 PM
  - The decision to go to war was moral and arguably correct. Hmmm? I didn't realize that Bremer was God. (n/t) - LJ - 10/8/2004 6:02:12 PM
    - Geez, he was a genius when what he said fit your agenda... (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 10/8/2004 6:34:05 PM
      - Geez, he was a genius when what he said fit your reality. - Bowser - 10/8/2004 6:52:47 PM
    - Part time god - FrankC - 10/8/2004 6:29:02 PM
      - re: Part time god - LJ - 10/8/2004 7:20:48 PM
  - Not enough troops - overruled at the "highest levels". (n/t) - Bowser - 10/8/2004 5:17:18 PM

Fund raising in Iraq - E.P. Grondine - 10/8/2004 3:41:01 PM
- Service Industry making a comeback too - E.P. Grondine - 10/8/2004 6:46:22 PM

"September job growth weaker" - in spite of massive deficit spending. - Bowser - 10/8/2004 3:12:48 PM
- Haven't seen that "2 million" number for a while. - Tom Brosz - 10/8/2004 6:46:06 PM
- And let us forget about the disruption of four hurricanes in Florida. - ebnelson - 10/8/2004 4:06:16 PM
  - If you'd read the citation: (Hurricanes) "But the Labor Department said it couldn't find a measurable impact on employment, despite extra sampling efforts." - Bowser - 10/8/2004 4:31:28 PM

A truly insignificant event - Daniel L - 10/7/2004 10:58:51 PM
- Good luck! - Tony - 10/8/2004 4:09:27 PM
  - What? - surely you know the best leader for this country! - Daniel - 10/8/2004 6:09:55 PM

Take 'em out - Eric - 10/7/2004 2:49:44 AM
- Video I posted here: - MrPex - 10/8/2004 6:49:11 AM
  - thanks for the warning - no offense taken - Daniel - 10/8/2004 5:44:39 PM
- Any other site that clip is posted? - Art Martin - 10/7/2004 9:03:56 PM
  - re: Any other site that clip is posted? - Eric - 10/8/2004 12:18:03 AM
- re: I love that video... - Scott Evil - 10/7/2004 9:01:00 PM
  - You're sick - Daniel L - 10/7/2004 10:34:19 PM
    - re: the people on that video want to kill american soldiers. - Scott Evil - 10/8/2004 3:44:19 PM
      - I'm not preaching to you about diplomacy, but about salivating over murder - Daniel - 10/8/2004 3:59:11 PM
        
        re: I understand. - Scott Evil - 10/8/2004 4:12:01 PM
        
        So 'Scott Good' would be your evil twin? ;) (n/t) - Daniel - 10/8/2004 5:12:45 PM
    - You're objections are noted, but... - Lee - 10/8/2004 2:41:03 AM
      - Point taken. However, keep this in mind: - Daniel - 10/8/2004 4:06:29 PM
- son of spam strikes again. - ebnelson - 10/7/2004 3:45:19 PM
- This was answered the last time you posted this. - Tom Brosz - 10/7/2004 3:32:18 AM

The Poll Tax, Updated - "If we do not suppress the Detroit vote, we're going to have a tough time in this election cycle." - Bowser - 10/8/2004 12:41:55 AM
- I'm sorry, are these the same Latino voters the Republicans were tryiing to favor in the last Evil Plan? - Tom Brosz - 10/8/2004 5:42:02 PM

Nobel Peace Prize - "George Bush and Tony Blair are known to have been nominated- - - " - Bowser - 10/8/2004 3:42:08 AM
- When pigs fly. - Tom Brosz - 10/8/2004 5:34:11 PM
- Maybe next year. - Bowser - 10/8/2004 11:11:11 AM
  - Home cooking (n/t) - FrankC - 10/8/2004 4:58:34 PM

Booklet That Upset Mrs. Cheney Is History - Bowser - 10/8/2004 5:27:43 PM

Duelfer on Saddam - alcaray - 10/7/2004 6:37:23 PM
- Hadn't thought of that. Who would he have wanted to deter? - Bowser - 10/7/2004 7:48:18 PM
  - First guess: Iran - Fox - 10/8/2004 1:21:18 AM
    - Makes sense. (n/t) - Bowser - 10/8/2004 5:18:45 PM
- re: Duelfer on Saddam - REB - 10/7/2004 7:41:10 PM
  - An extension on your thoughts - Art Martin - 10/7/2004 10:37:55 PM

FACTBOX-Bush administration statements on Iraq WMD - Bowser - 10/8/2004 3:50:10 AM
- Sounds just like what Kerry said, before he decided he didn't say it. (n/t) - ebnelson - 10/8/2004 2:59:13 PM

DeLay Draws Third Rebuke - Bowser - 10/7/2004 6:11:43 PM
- You might want to read the article. (n/t) - ebnelson - 10/8/2004 2:58:16 PM

French - gbaikie - 10/8/2004 2:08:36 AM
- re: Chiraq is a Moron. the Farsie and Arabic languages will be around long after the French language has died. - Scott Evil - 10/8/2004 1:29:11 PM
  - re: Mais oui, bien sur! - Raoul - 10/8/2004 1:42:42 PM
    - re: Mais oui, bien sur! - Scott Evil - 10/8/2004 2:43:57 PM

How to tell if you're winning - "Pentagon Sets Steps to Retake Iraq Rebel Sites" - Bowser - 10/8/2004 10:45:13 AM

Is there a plan for Iraq - gbaikie - 10/8/2004 2:19:36 AM
- re: Is there a plan for Iraq - gbaikie - 10/8/2004 2:51:58 AM
  - What does it say about a political party when they actively seek and court the felon vote? (n/t) - Lee - 10/8/2004 8:25:17 AM
    - Oops, should be under Chris's thread. - Lee - 10/8/2004 8:28:12 AM
  - Any websites on current Iraqi troop strength? (n/t) - Lee - 10/8/2004 8:20:24 AM

Operation Truth - Chris Vancil - 10/8/2004 8:12:01 AM

Stop Loss - Chris Vancil - 10/8/2004 8:08:39 AM

CD in Iraq said to have U.S. schools info - Lee - 10/8/2004 2:44:29 AM

What happens to our troops in Iraq if Sharon strikes Iran now? - E.P. Grondine - 10/7/2004 5:08:41 AM
- re: The Iranians would be insane to try to bring the US into a war. - Scott Evil - 10/7/2004 8:13:08 PM
  - Not if Kerry is President. - ebnelson - 10/7/2004 8:17:54 PM
    - re: Anything over 1,000 casualties and Kerry would think the war was going badly... - Scott Evil - 10/7/2004 8:31:20 PM
- speculative fiction - alcaray - 10/7/2004 6:17:11 PM
  - Extremely speculative fiction - Fox - 10/8/2004 1:42:05 AM
- If they (Iranians) are smart... - FrankC - 10/7/2004 5:50:15 AM

HMS Chicoutimi - Raoul - 10/7/2004 1:19:13 PM
- Not a pretty thought. - Art Martin - 10/7/2004 7:31:43 PM
  - re: Not a pretty thought. - Raoul - 10/7/2004 9:29:13 PM

What if the people of Iraq vote that their government oppose Israeli expansion? - E.P. Grondine - 10/7/2004 5:01:05 AM
- re: That would be good. - Scott Evil - 10/7/2004 8:54:47 PM
- without those damned typos this time - - E.P. Grondine - 10/7/2004 5:13:15 AM
  - If they do so what - Buck Galaxy - 10/7/2004 6:01:27 AM

Saddam's bribery strategy - phil - 10/7/2004 1:55:51 PM
- re: I wonder if any of Sadam's blood money made it to the campaign or savings account of Democrat David Bonier - Scott Evil - 10/7/2004 8:52:43 PM
- I wonder how many people will realize the implications of this. - Tom Brosz - 10/7/2004 5:40:24 PM
  - Seems a lot like the Bush strategy - Coalition of the Bribed. (n/t) - Bowser - 10/7/2004 6:17:49 PM
    - re: Chirac to bribes to cover up murder, rape, and genocide. - Scott Evil - 10/7/2004 8:46:03 PM
    - It was a ground ball and still went over your head. (n/t) - ebnelson - 10/7/2004 6:26:28 PM
- Was this what Kerry meant by the 'coalition of the bribed'? - ebnelson - 10/7/2004 3:43:43 PM
  - No - but Saddam thought it would work the same way (n/t) - E.P. Grondine - 10/7/2004 3:48:36 PM
    - Please explain. (n/t) - ebnelson - 10/7/2004 4:37:06 PM
- and while we're on the subject - E.P. Gorndine - 10/7/2004 3:26:39 PM
  - re: John McCain and Russ Fiengold fixed it. There is no more money in politics. - Scott Evil - 10/7/2004 8:47:30 PM
  - Freedom is such a pesky thing. (n/t) - ebnelson - 10/7/2004 6:27:42 PM
- didn't matter, and doesn't matter - W's team screwed up the post war - E.P. Grondine - 10/7/2004 2:49:56 PM

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