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Jill Stewart on the L. A. Times again - Tom Brosz - 10/15/2003 3:26:17 AM
- At least... - Don - 10/15/2003 4:21:36 AM

Economy - as goes the US.... a Wile E. coyote moment coming? - LJ - 10/14/2003 4:29:20 PM
- Rehashing Krugman's failed prediciton to aignore the real news of the economy is y - ebnelson - 10/15/2003 3:38:50 AM
- Projections... - Larry J - 10/14/2003 9:45:17 PM
  - re: Projections... - Tom Brosz - 10/15/2003 1:33:56 AM
- Worried about oil? - Tom Brosz - 10/14/2003 5:49:21 PM
  - re: Worried about oil? - LJ - 10/14/2003 6:09:31 PM
- Try this for fast relief - FrankC - 10/14/2003 5:19:57 PM
  - re: Try this for fast relief - LJ - 10/14/2003 5:59:15 PM
    - If you think they are playing with the numbers - FrankC - 10/14/2003 7:54:29 PM
    - Another economy suggestion... - Tom Brosz - 10/14/2003 6:17:23 PM
      - re: Another economy suggestion... - LJ - 10/14/2003 6:45:13 PM
        
        re: Another economy suggestion... - gbaikie - 10/14/2003 11:44:37 PM

Source: Saddam's Money May be in Syria . . . - D. Spires - 10/15/2003 2:24:02 AM

Army letter from Iraq creates national stir - Don - 10/14/2003 1:42:25 PM
- Take a hint - Justin Kelly - 10/15/2003 12:58:11 AM
- From ABC News - Larry J - 10/14/2003 9:49:35 PM
- Telnaes' take - LJ - 10/14/2003 4:31:14 PM
  - re: Telnaes' take - Tom Brosz - 10/14/2003 6:34:25 PM
- re: Army letter from Iraq--the rest of the story - Tom Brosz - 10/14/2003 3:34:10 PM
- Meanwhile: Suicide Bomb at Turkey Embassy in Baghdad; 2 Hurt - Don - 10/14/2003 1:45:25 PM
  - And: Iraqi Shiite Factions Clash in Karbala - Don - 10/14/2003 2:16:07 PM

Animal Experts Say Tiger Meant to Kill Roy . . . - D. Spires - 10/11/2003 1:05:48 AM
- If it had meant to kill him, he would be dead (n/t) - LJ - 10/11/2003 4:27:22 AM
  - Point of fact, he was quite dead!!! - Davin L. - 10/11/2003 8:43:06 PM
    - re: Point of fact, he was quite dead!!! - LJ - 10/14/2003 4:10:05 PM
      - re: Point of fact, he was quite dead!!! - Davin L. - 10/15/2003 12:00:31 AM
    - CORRECTION - Davin L. - 10/11/2003 8:46:01 PM
- Ya think!?! - Lee - 10/11/2003 3:26:12 AM
  - As a cat lover......... - Lindy - 10/12/2003 2:09:06 AM
    - Why can't we tinker with evolution a little? - Lee - 10/12/2003 3:36:09 AM
      - Great idea! Then you can try moving rabbits to Australia! (n/t) - LJ - 10/13/2003 4:45:27 PM
      - re: I'd rather you didn't move tigers to northern Canada - Success_Machine - 10/13/2003 12:31:17 AM
        
        re: I'd rather you didn't move tigers to northern Canada - LJ - 10/14/2003 5:00:31 PM

Working to Spin Distrust of Media Into Votes . . . - D. Spires - 10/14/2003 11:32:51 PM

Bush Unveils Measures to Weaken Cuba's Castro . . . - D. Spires - 10/11/2003 1:19:53 AM
- When is that lunatic going to get the boot?. (n/t) - LJ - 10/11/2003 4:30:07 AM
  - re: Never . . . - D. Spires - 10/13/2003 7:11:46 PM
    - Interesting reply - LJ - 10/14/2003 3:54:45 PM
      - re: Sorry -- didn't know this was a comedy skit . . . (n/t) - D. Spires - 10/14/2003 11:29:09 PM
- Doing well while doing good is always ok. . - ebnelson - 10/11/2003 1:52:45 AM

Newsweek on Limbaugh - FrankC - 10/12/2003 9:22:11 PM
- Limbaugh admitted being a junkie. It must be the first time in his life that he actually told the truth. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 10/14/2003 3:06:15 AM
- Revealing excerpts of a pathetic personality - Don - 10/13/2003 2:07:39 PM
  - You desperately wish it were so - ebnelson - 10/14/2003 6:39:44 AM
  - You must be the world expert on pathetic personality N/T (n/t) - Scott Evil - 10/13/2003 9:15:14 PM
    - Now THERE is a case of the POT calling the Kettle 'dope'. - Davin L. - 10/14/2003 3:50:08 AM
  - Laugh it up while you can, while the guy is off the air. - Tom Brosz - 10/13/2003 4:09:00 PM
    - re: Laugh it up while you can, while the guy is off the air. - Davin L. - 10/14/2003 3:15:43 AM
      - re: "He was the king of cherry pickers and mis-quoters, with a fantastic speaking voice and a very literate look-and-feel. He could have made a great TV preacher, or a great car salesman." - Scott Evil - 10/14/2003 2:17:53 PM
      - Confident, well-read liberals - Tom Brosz - 10/14/2003 4:50:28 AM
        
        re: Confident, well-read liberals - Davin L - 10/14/2003 2:07:28 PM
        
        re: Confident, well-read liberals - Tom Brosz - 10/14/2003 3:41:48 PM
        
        Oh good god, give me a break. - Davin L. - 10/14/2003 5:31:25 PM
        
        re: give me a break. - Tom Brosz - 10/14/2003 6:55:59 PM
        
        And since Howard Dean is on the record as hating Rush so much... (n/t) - ebnelson - 10/14/2003 6:47:10 AM
- "A hero is only a lonely boy when he comes home alone" Carly Simon (n/t) - ebnelson - 10/12/2003 10:10:07 PM

Stocks at 16 month high... - Tom Brosz - 10/13/2003 5:45:36 PM
- Just as employment is a lagging indicator, stocks are a leading indicator - ebnelson - 10/14/2003 11:36:18 AM
- Nah, it couldn't be - Lee - 10/14/2003 6:51:27 AM
  - Maybe coincidence, maybe not. - Tom Brosz - 10/14/2003 6:38:18 PM
    - Just to let you know - Lee - 10/14/2003 6:50:02 PM

We must stop immigration to the United States before the environment is destroyed. - A. L. - 10/14/2003 2:57:59 PM

Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? Bush knows! - Tom Brosz - 10/13/2003 6:39:50 PM
- I watched him interviewed. He came across as weak, irresolute - ebnelson - 10/14/2003 6:37:03 AM
- re: Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? Bush knows! - Jason - 10/13/2003 7:27:37 PM
  - Yeah, right. The Moscow Times is going to tell us how it is. - Tom Brosz - 10/13/2003 9:43:15 PM
  - re: Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? Bush knows! - Scott Evil - 10/13/2003 9:24:45 PM
    - The point of the disinformation excdrcise has been to keep democratic partisans from facing truth (n/t) - ebnelson - 10/14/2003 11:43:10 AM
    - Fourth paragraph in his speach..."no doubt" - Jason - 10/13/2003 9:53:34 PM
      - As the Kay Report shows - ebnelson - 10/14/2003 6:49:10 AM
      - As the Kay Report shows - ebnelson - 10/14/2003 6:49:01 AM
      - The statement was true. - Scott Evil - 10/13/2003 10:13:50 PM

You might think the unions in CA are punishing the people - ebnelson - 10/14/2003 6:59:20 AM

Attacks on troops in Iraq leave U.S. soldier dead - Don - 10/13/2003 1:20:45 PM
- meanwhile, did you see the President's latest poll numbers... - Scott Evil - 10/13/2003 9:09:03 PM
- That's it, you bastard, Don! You're reducing dead to statistics. - Jacob - 10/13/2003 7:06:14 PM
  - Your anger is misdirected Jacob - Don - 10/14/2003 12:01:05 AM
    - Your weakness sustains our enemies - ebnelson - 10/14/2003 3:20:45 AM
    - A third GI was killed today - Don - 10/14/2003 12:15:00 AM
  - re:Ask Richard Roth - Raoul - 10/13/2003 9:00:46 PM
- Irrelevant to the larger issues - Tom Brosz - 10/13/2003 3:49:35 PM
  - Wrong - Buster - 10/13/2003 5:22:08 PM
    - re: Wrong - Don - 10/14/2003 12:08:39 AM
      - It's you that are wrong. - Tom Brosz - 10/14/2003 2:22:26 AM
        
        Don thinks that since he is desperate to prove Bush wrong - ebnelson - 10/14/2003 6:45:15 AM
        
        Don thinks that since he is desperate to prove Bush wrong - ebnelson - 10/14/2003 6:45:04 AM
      - re: Wrong - gbaikie - 10/14/2003 1:57:31 AM
- Its now two U.S. soldiers killed - Don - 10/13/2003 2:21:43 PM
  - Add to that a rapid increase in suicides of our troops due to the stress of combat and long deployments of an unjust war. - Jason - 10/13/2003 3:09:37 PM
    - rapid increase? - Tom Brosz - 10/13/2003 3:53:30 PM
- Meanwhile: Iraqis oppose Turkish troops - Don - 10/13/2003 1:33:51 PM
  - And: Bush begs for UN help - Don - 10/13/2003 1:38:09 PM

Where the real WMDs can be found - Don - 10/14/2003 4:59:47 AM
- Or especially distgracted like in the prior administration - ebnelson - 10/14/2003 6:31:46 AM
- re: Where the real WMDs can be found - Tom Brosz - 10/14/2003 5:13:33 AM

Wedding Party Shoots Down Plane . . . - D. Spires - 10/13/2003 10:39:14 PM
- Firing guns into the air is how idiots celebrate. - David F Mayer - 10/14/2003 3:04:24 AM

Whoa...Limbaugh heading for Betty Ford - Tom Brosz - 10/10/2003 7:03:33 PM
- So Rush was getting stoned - ebnelson - 10/11/2003 1:30:34 AM
  - re: No . . . - D. Spires - 10/11/2003 3:17:17 AM
    - good point - ebnelson - 10/11/2003 3:45:50 AM
- This has been the headliner on the radio news every hour (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 10/10/2003 9:00:57 PM
- Whaddaya know...he DID have half his brain tied behind his back. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 10/10/2003 8:48:51 PM
- What goes around, comes around - Don - 10/10/2003 8:47:03 PM
  - The huge difference - ebnelson - 10/11/2003 1:32:45 AM
    - The hypocrit got caught - Don - 10/11/2003 4:18:11 AM
      - re: Actually . . . - D. Spires - 10/13/2003 10:42:49 PM
      - re: The hypocrite got caught - Tom Brosz - 10/11/2003 4:20:57 AM
        
        re: I doubt his "new outlook" will be much different, Tom . . . - D. Spires - 10/13/2003 10:47:01 PM
  - The Hell it isn't! - RobVG - 10/11/2003 1:15:41 AM
  - Do you have more information than me? - FrankC - 10/10/2003 9:10:53 PM
    - re: Check out MSNBC . . . - D. Spires - 10/11/2003 3:11:35 AM
  - re: What goes around, comes around - Tom Brosz - 10/10/2003 8:59:54 PM
    - re: What goes around, comes around - Greg - 10/11/2003 4:05:19 AM
      - re: What goes around, comes around - Tom Brosz - 10/11/2003 4:19:17 AM
        
        re: What goes around, comes around - Greg - 10/11/2003 4:37:36 AM
        
        re: The drugs he takes are not illegal . . . - D. Spires - 10/14/2003 12:38:16 AM
- re: Whoa...Limbaugh heading for Betty Ford - p - 10/10/2003 7:06:27 PM

Dowd on Cheney - Raoul - 10/13/2003 12:32:15 PM
- she's at her best when she deliberatly inserts & drops words to misquote (n/t) - p - 10/13/2003 10:08:47 PM
- Go Dowd - Don - 10/13/2003 2:35:04 PM

Bush disinfo campaign uncovered. - Jason - 10/12/2003 2:28:31 PM
- My bet is its a mid to low level effort. - ebnelson - 10/12/2003 10:43:03 PM
  - That's my bet as well... - Gary - 10/13/2003 4:29:32 PM
- Its all about public relations and getting re-elected - Don - 10/12/2003 2:41:36 PM
  - Oh, please, PLEASE, Democrats: run with this one. - Tom Brosz - 10/13/2003 5:21:13 AM

Blast rocks major hotel in Baghdad - Don - 10/12/2003 2:43:54 PM
- Some interesting changes in tactics - Tom Brosz - 10/13/2003 7:34:37 AM
- Iraqis stopping terror in their own homeland, with their own resources - ebnelson - 10/12/2003 3:14:08 PM
- Meanwhile: Violence in Iraq spreads to north - Don - 10/12/2003 2:46:12 PM
  - And: Washington muddled and befuddled - Don - 10/12/2003 2:51:56 PM
    - "God help us until 2004" - Tom Brosz - 10/13/2003 7:16:37 AM
    - More on this: Senators denounce Bush Iraq policy - Don - 10/12/2003 7:53:37 PM
      - Democrats think Bush sucks. Film at 11:00 - Tom Brosz - 10/13/2003 7:28:54 AM
    - No Spin Zone - Don - 10/12/2003 3:08:17 PM

vote fraud in Califormia - Greg - 10/11/2003 1:47:12 PM
- Nice try. A little pathetic, but nice try. - Tom Brosz - 10/11/2003 4:46:40 PM
  - re: Nice try. A little pathetic, but nice try. - Greg - 10/12/2003 3:36:01 AM
    - Voting machines - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2003 6:44:06 AM
      - re: Voting machines - Greg - 10/12/2003 7:33:44 AM
        
        It was quite clear to me - FrankC - 10/12/2003 4:48:03 PM
        
        re: It was quite clear to me - Greg - 10/13/2003 6:27:42 AM
- The Lizard People Are Doing This! (n/t) - p - trying for a date with L - 10/11/2003 2:57:09 PM
  - So, what are you doing later?.........n/t (n/t) - L - 10/12/2003 1:41:54 AM
  - No, it's the elephant people (n/t) - Greg - 10/11/2003 4:43:44 PM

Source Confirms Limbaugh Investigation - the hypocrite stumbles - Don - 10/11/2003 10:25:38 PM
- What do you expect to get out of this? - FrankC - 10/11/2003 11:07:40 PM
  - re: What do you expect to get out of this? -- Well, some recognition of the inequities of the justice system would be nice... - Mary Anne - 10/12/2003 2:25:58 PM
    - Don't think too many people here would argue with you on this one. - Tom Brosz - 10/13/2003 5:04:33 AM
    - MSNBC interview with Matt Drudge - FrankC - 10/12/2003 8:54:59 PM
    - Nuts. "Spelling counts". - Mary Anne - 10/12/2003 7:56:26 PM
    - The drug war is a failure, as has been discussed here many times - ebnelson - 10/12/2003 3:46:11 PM
  - Actually Frank... - Don - 10/12/2003 2:07:02 AM
- Repeating what was known a week ago - ebnelson - 10/11/2003 10:42:07 PM

Seized assets rebuilding Iraqi schools - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2003 7:00:58 AM

Report on Iraq from returning troops - Tom Brosz - 10/9/2003 5:21:07 PM
- just like these? - Greg - 10/12/2003 5:55:38 AM
  - Followup - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2003 6:52:02 AM
- Report on Iraq from troops on station - Tom Brosz - 10/9/2003 5:26:05 PM
  - re: Report on Iraq from one returning Marine - Tom Brosz - 10/9/2003 9:32:17 PM
    - This will be fairly reported when the NYT wants it to be reported - ebnelson - 10/10/2003 12:49:40 PM
      - Maybe not - Larry J - 10/10/2003 2:55:57 PM
      - Maybe not - Larry J - 10/10/2003 2:48:35 PM
    - re: Report on Iraq from one returning Marine - McFly - 10/10/2003 12:00:41 AM
      - Administration efforts - Tom Brosz - 10/10/2003 1:09:13 AM
    - Umm, until pigs fly, Tom? (n/t) - Betsy - 10/9/2003 11:42:45 PM

A Further Look At The Criminal ChargesThat May Arise From the Plame Scandal, In Which a CIA Agent's Cover Was Blown - Greg - 10/11/2003 5:40:17 AM
- This one's losing air fast, isn't it? Suggest inventing another one. - Tom Brosz - 10/11/2003 5:15:42 PM
  - Or so you THINK.............. - Lindy - 10/12/2003 1:48:35 AM

Deliberate Media Distortion Called to Task - p - 10/11/2003 2:36:15 PM
- The goal of the excercise, as exmplified here by Don's multimonth spamathon - ebnelson - 10/11/2003 10:45:51 PM
- I posted a lot more Democratic statements like that - Tom Brosz - 10/11/2003 4:37:14 PM

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