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AMAZING!!One EGYPTIAN Twin offa coma DRUG!!!!!!! - Sam - 10/17/2003 6:43:27 PM

Three U.S. military police killed in Iraq - Don - 10/17/2003 1:11:22 PM
- Where was the announcement about three Americans killed in Gaza? - Tom Brosz - 10/17/2003 3:20:14 PM
  - What? This one? - Tony - 10/17/2003 3:32:35 PM
    - Oops. My bad. - Tom Brosz - 10/17/2003 3:53:58 PM
- Meanwhile: Senate GOP rebuffs Bush Iraq aid package - Don - 10/17/2003 1:14:34 PM
  - And: 'Morale slides' for US troops - Don - 10/17/2003 1:17:04 PM
    - From the Washington Post story... - Larry J - 10/17/2003 6:19:10 PM
    - You are, of course, aware that first-term reenlistment rates have always been about 50 percent. - Tom Brosz - 10/17/2003 3:28:02 PM
    - Another U.S. casualty - Don - 10/17/2003 1:20:34 PM

School Apologizes for Nazi Display by Band . . . - D. Spires - 10/1/2003 8:48:03 PM
- still trying to figure out.... - Tony - 10/2/2003 6:40:50 AM
  - re: Let's see . . . - D. Spires - 10/2/2003 10:55:22 PM
  - It was probably meant as a memorial to the fallen soldiers on all sides. - Lee - 10/2/2003 6:14:47 PM
- Wouldn't be the first time the Nazi flag has flown over Paris... - Tom Brosz - 10/1/2003 9:13:51 PM
  - re: Paris, Texas, that is (n/t) - Raoul - 10/2/2003 5:38:39 AM
    - "If you have to explain a joke, there is no joke!" - The Joker (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 10/2/2003 6:15:20 AM
  - Especially in light of what the Nazi symbol is... - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/2/2003 2:06:37 AM
    - re how much is it worth? - AnnMarie - 10/17/2003 2:28:54 AM
      - re: re how much is it worth? - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/17/2003 6:07:25 PM
    - The swastika belongs to all of us. - Lee - 10/2/2003 2:57:02 AM
      - I would not have pegged you for a Jungian - alcaray - 10/2/2003 7:56:08 PM
        
        re: I would not have pegged you for a Jungian - tex - 10/14/2003 12:05:57 AM

Talk of Democracy Emerges in Arab World - SteveS - 10/17/2003 5:05:21 PM

Just wondering - Tom Brosz - 10/17/2003 1:54:12 AM
- As one "liberal"... - Don - 10/17/2003 2:22:34 AM
- As one "liberal"... - Don - 10/17/2003 2:22:26 AM
  - re: As one "liberal"... - Tom Brosz - 10/17/2003 2:50:06 AM
    - The Kennedy speech - Tom Brosz - 10/17/2003 3:48:40 PM
    - "Ted Kennedy went completely berserk today on the floor" - p - 10/17/2003 1:23:25 PM
- The antiBush cult is reducing rapidly to a fringe science - ebnelson - 10/17/2003 2:02:17 AM

Curses, foiled again! - LJ - 10/16/2003 3:31:21 PM
- What is so great about Dowd - ebnelson - 10/17/2003 2:05:04 AM
  - re: What is so great about Dowd - Raoul - 10/17/2003 9:53:03 AM
    - What a great point - ebnelson - 10/17/2003 12:35:25 PM
- re: foiled again - Tom Brosz - 10/16/2003 5:16:32 PM
- daily Dowd fisking - p - 10/16/2003 4:32:11 PM
  - As a child, I was puzzled by the NYT's lack of a funnies page. - ebnelson - 10/17/2003 2:13:06 AM

If Bill Clinton were an addict, here's how Rush might spin it - Don - 10/15/2003 4:48:29 AM
- It was great untilt he part where clinton sez" I take full responsibility" - ebnelson - 10/15/2003 12:50:04 PM
- re: If Bill Clinton were an addict - Tom Brosz - 10/15/2003 6:08:05 AM
  - Spin - Mary Anne - 10/15/2003 12:30:47 PM
    - re: Spin - Tom Brosz - 10/15/2003 4:03:05 PM
      - ZOOOM! goes the point right by Toms head - Davin L. - 10/15/2003 6:12:56 PM
        
        Whoosh - ebnelson - 10/16/2003 3:15:15 AM
        
        Clinton the ex-president - Tom Brosz - 10/15/2003 6:53:20 PM
        
        The same song in a new verse... - Davin L. - 10/15/2003 7:46:00 PM
        
        When will it end? - Tom Brosz - 10/16/2003 3:57:47 PM
        
        re: When will it end? - LJ - 10/16/2003 5:06:18 PM
        
        re: When will it end? - Tom Brosz - 10/17/2003 1:15:04 AM
        
        LMAO! My god! Either you are putting on a play, or you are just pathological on this! - Davin L. - 10/16/2003 4:35:01 PM
        
        The great liberal conceit: - ebnelson - 10/17/2003 2:09:37 AM
        
        Ah. Yes. Mr Nelson chimes in. - Davin L. - 10/17/2003 5:04:26 AM
        
        Mr. L cruises past the point - ebnelson - 10/17/2003 12:25:54 PM
        
        Hello? You paying attention at all? - Tom Brosz - 10/16/2003 5:27:49 PM
        
        Again, another post about the Clinton boogeyman... - Davin L. - 10/16/2003 8:42:51 PM
        
        Go ahead, laugh it up. - Tom Brosz - 10/16/2003 9:30:07 PM
        
        Or Reagan, for that matter. Was lucid until 1998. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 10/16/2003 4:02:19 PM
        
        Hummm. Sure, I'll bite Tom! I'm bored anyway - Davin L. - 10/17/2003 5:21:06 AM
        
        If Carter had been reelected, the Berlin Wall would still be there. - Tom Brosz - 10/17/2003 6:56:18 AM
        
        re: Gorbachev - Raoul - 10/17/2003 10:02:10 AM

Norht Korea to world: Pay attention to me or I will whip out my new toy! - ebnelson - 10/17/2003 2:24:46 AM

U.S.-drafted resolution receives unanimous Security Council approval - Tom Brosz - 10/16/2003 5:33:32 PM
- Its good news, but... - Don - 10/17/2003 1:31:06 AM
  - re: Its good news, but... - Tom Brosz - 10/17/2003 1:43:54 AM
    - The question to ponder... - Don - 10/17/2003 2:06:25 AM
- Text of resolution 1511 - Tom Brosz - 10/16/2003 6:02:58 PM

Someone finally asked the Iraqis what they think - ebnelson - 10/16/2003 1:42:55 AM
- Some perspective - Don - 10/16/2003 1:28:38 PM
  - Some good points - ebnelson - 10/17/2003 1:22:17 AM
  - Bush has lost control of his team; in-fighting. - Jack Herer - 10/16/2003 3:37:21 PM
- Gallup poll - Tom Brosz - 10/16/2003 1:52:23 AM
  - Just seeing what it is like - ebnelson - 10/16/2003 2:22:52 AM

Report: Portion of Roy's Skull Removed . . . - D. Spires - 10/16/2003 11:19:44 PM

Senators visit Iraq - Tom Brosz - 10/16/2003 10:13:05 PM

25 years for the Pope John Paul II - Raoul - 10/16/2003 4:34:18 PM

Cubans burning books. Like anyone cares. - Tom Brosz - 10/14/2003 6:07:33 PM
- re: Cubans burning books. Like anyone cares. - McFly - 10/15/2003 3:07:18 PM
  - Seconded. Anyone else approve the motion? (n/t) - Tony - 10/16/2003 2:06:50 PM
    - Aye! (n/t) - LJ - 10/16/2003 3:59:39 PM
- Waiting on defenders of books to the sound of crickets chriping (n/t) - ebnelson - 10/15/2003 3:22:13 AM
  - *chrip* - Mary Anne - 10/15/2003 3:50:03 AM
    - *chrip* - is that related to Tom's *cripes* ;-) (n/t) - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/15/2003 4:05:42 AM
      - Nope: to "the sound of crickets chriping" (n/t) - Mary Anne - 10/15/2003 4:08:13 AM
        
        Crickets chirp... Chrickets chrip ;-) (n/t) - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/15/2003 4:13:57 AM
    - Ed, Mary Anne says to tell you she's not speaking to you. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 10/15/2003 4:04:08 AM
      - As predicted (n/t) - ebnelson - 10/15/2003 1:21:46 PM
      - Thank you. (n/t) - Mary Anne - 10/15/2003 4:06:13 AM
- Painting with a mile wide brush again, Tom? - R.L. - 10/14/2003 10:17:23 PM
  - You missed a pleasant conversation or two regarding the librarians' professional organization - ebnelson - 10/15/2003 3:24:08 AM
  - re: Painting - Tom Brosz - 10/15/2003 1:12:24 AM
- I'm curious - LJ - 10/14/2003 8:52:20 PM
  - Travel to Cuba is restricted, not prohibited - Larry J - 10/14/2003 9:23:52 PM
    - re: Travel to Cuba is restricted, not prohibited - LJ - 10/15/2003 2:14:20 AM
      - Who ever said government policies had to make sense, Part II - Larry J - 10/15/2003 2:06:47 PM
- re: Cubans burning books. Like anyone cares. - Don - 10/14/2003 8:06:21 PM
  - Listen to Pacifica radio - ebnelson - 10/15/2003 3:27:26 AM
  - re: "If we are smart and engage in wise diplomacy, we could very well see Cuba become free without bloodshed or acrimony" . . . - D. Spires - 10/15/2003 12:01:25 AM
  - Castro apologists - Tom Brosz - 10/14/2003 8:58:40 PM
    - Not exactly - Don - 10/15/2003 2:18:10 AM
      - The one difference - Tom Brosz - 10/15/2003 3:08:30 AM
        
        Good cripes - Don - 10/15/2003 3:42:11 AM
        
        re: Good cripes indeed. - Tom Brosz - 10/15/2003 4:03:09 AM
        
        Tom - Don - 10/15/2003 4:27:19 AM
        
        re: Don - Tom Brosz - 10/15/2003 5:21:52 AM
        
        re: Weird . . . - D. Spires - 10/15/2003 10:03:19 PM
        
        Tom - Don - 10/15/2003 12:37:11 PM
        
        Wrong again, Don - Larry J - 10/15/2003 9:51:39 PM
        
        I stand corrected - Don - 10/16/2003 12:26:32 PM
        
        Fine. Have it your way. - Tom Brosz - 10/15/2003 3:53:21 PM
        
        re: Good cripes indeed. - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/15/2003 4:23:43 AM
        
        re: In all fairness, Tech1 . . . - D. Spires - 10/15/2003 9:38:15 PM
    - 57 to be exact - FrankC - 10/14/2003 10:43:38 PM
    - re:What it basically means... - Marcia - 10/14/2003 10:34:15 PM
      - re: An interesting example, Marcia . . . - D. Spires - 10/15/2003 12:06:52 AM
      - re: Whether they burn them or not. (n/t) - Marcia - 10/14/2003 10:35:58 PM

Damn Cubs... - Scott Evil - 10/16/2003 2:00:14 PM

Ex-Aide: Powell Misled Americans - Don - 10/16/2003 1:11:37 PM
- Meanwhile: Many troops in Iraq dissatisfied - Don - 10/16/2003 1:13:40 PM

Fact-Free News - Don - 10/15/2003 4:18:47 AM
- Report was discussed here in a previous thread - Tom Brosz - 10/15/2003 3:36:07 PM
- You desperately wish the facts show the NYT to be 0 cal version of the issues - ebnelson - 10/15/2003 1:19:22 PM
  - Who said anything about the NYT?!? - Don - 10/15/2003 2:01:50 PM
    - Exactly the point. Thank you so very much. - ebnelson - 10/16/2003 1:29:59 AM
- re: Fact-Free News - gbaikie - 10/15/2003 11:33:19 AM
  - Facts are facts, Geoff - Don - 10/15/2003 12:50:34 PM
    - Facts are facts and propaganda is propaganda - ebnelson - 10/16/2003 3:19:45 AM

Toys for Iraqi kids - Tom Brosz - 10/14/2003 4:09:20 PM
- A great and worthwhile effort - LJ - 10/14/2003 4:42:11 PM
  - re: A great and worthwhile effort - Betsy - 10/14/2003 5:20:11 PM
    - Boys give toys... - Mary Anne - 10/15/2003 3:55:59 AM
      - re: Boys give toys... - Betsy - 10/16/2003 3:14:27 AM
    - re: A great and worthwhile effort - Tom Brosz - 10/14/2003 5:51:09 PM

Paved roads and armored vehicles - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/16/2003 12:08:25 AM

Entitlements sinking the country - Tom Brosz - 10/15/2003 4:15:47 PM
- If the prescription drug benefit passes How much more will be withheld from our paychecks - Scott Evil - 10/15/2003 5:06:36 PM
  - Once upon a time - FrankC - 10/15/2003 7:54:53 PM
    - re: Once upon a time - Tom Brosz - 10/15/2003 11:08:14 PM
      - Imagine how much auto insurance would cost... - Larry J - 10/15/2003 11:46:56 PM

Things just got worse - Don - 10/15/2003 1:09:09 PM
- And Now Aamericans ordered to leave the Gaza Strip - Scott Evil - 10/15/2003 2:27:15 PM
- Meanwhile: Iraq War Swells Al Qaeda's Ranks, Report Says - Don - 10/15/2003 1:12:23 PM
  - And: Rival Shiite factions clash in Iraq - Don - 10/15/2003 1:15:50 PM
    - Good. Looks like Sadr has finally gone too far. (n/t) - Pete - 10/15/2003 8:03:02 PM

The Promise and the Threat - Greg - 9/3/2003 2:34:39 PM
- You've got to doubt the authanticity of this blog - Scott Evil - 9/3/2003 9:31:27 PM
  - re: You've got to doubt the authanticity of this blog - lina - 10/15/2003 5:59:45 PM
  - If you like listening to an American reporter posing - it's fine. - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/4/2003 4:29:02 AM
    - re: If you like listening to an American reporter posing - it's fine. - SDG - 9/4/2003 7:00:34 PM
      - also - SDG - 9/4/2003 7:56:14 PM
        
        Only a reporter from the NY Times or thereabouts... - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/4/2003 11:44:17 PM
        
        re: Only a reporter from the NY Times or thereabouts... - Dan - 9/11/2003 11:19:18 AM
        
        I agree entirely - Scott Evil - 9/5/2003 1:26:02 PM
    - Amazing - LJ - 9/4/2003 4:17:15 PM
      - Why did she report that her brother found himself in a crowd of "angry iraqi's" - Scott Evil - 9/4/2003 9:56:17 PM
        
        There are a few Americans in Iraq - LJ - 9/4/2003 11:39:35 PM
  - I think it's authentic. - Tom Brosz - 9/3/2003 11:21:10 PM
  - Sure, Scott - LJ - 9/3/2003 9:48:54 PM
    - re: Sure, Scott - Scott Evil - 9/3/2003 10:27:50 PM
      - disagree - SDG - 9/4/2003 12:08:42 AM
        
        Here's another one for you to add to you're daily reading list. - Scott Evil - 9/4/2003 3:29:40 PM
        
        no thanks I have plenty of reading material as it is - SDG - 9/4/2003 8:02:19 PM
- Bremer Is An Idiot & So Is The Bush Team If They Don't Fix Things Faster - Mark Eby - 9/3/2003 5:02:19 PM
- Thanks Greg - LJ - 9/3/2003 4:04:29 PM
- That's Obscene - Lindy - 9/3/2003 3:49:55 PM
  - She referred to Saddam as a "brutal leader". Sounds oppressive to me. (n/t) - alcaray - 9/12/2003 4:10:03 PM
  - P.S. - Tom Brosz - 9/3/2003 4:19:30 PM
  - War - Iraq - LJ - 9/3/2003 4:15:02 PM
  - Speaking of obscene - Tom Brosz - 9/3/2003 4:08:11 PM
    - Wow She Really Fooled You - Mark Eby - 9/3/2003 4:51:12 PM
    - re: Speaking of obscene - LJ - 9/3/2003 4:26:35 PM
      - re: Speaking of obscene - Tom Brosz - 9/3/2003 6:20:04 PM
        
        re: Tiring - Raoul - 9/3/2003 7:54:33 PM
        
        re: Tiring - gbaikie - 9/4/2003 1:21:56 AM
        
        re: Tiring - Tom Brosz - 9/3/2003 11:36:29 PM
        
        re: Tiring (I'll Say!!) /FACT CHECK - Davin L. - 9/4/2003 1:29:18 AM
        
        Fact check. - Tom Brosz - 9/4/2003 2:41:13 AM
        
        re: Fact check. - Greg - 9/4/2003 4:54:19 AM
        
        So by 'left' you mean - Davin L. - 9/4/2003 3:45:05 AM
        
        re: So by 'left' you mean - Tom Brosz - 9/4/2003 4:37:55 AM
        
        re: So by 'left' you mean - gbaikie - 9/4/2003 6:21:20 AM
        
        re: So by 'left' you mean - Davin L. - 9/4/2003 5:44:08 AM
        
        Intelligence - Tom Brosz - 9/5/2003 12:33:57 AM
        
        re: Intelligence - Davin L. - 9/5/2003 3:27:18 AM
      - re: Speaking of obscene - Tom Brosz - 9/3/2003 6:15:38 PM
        
        re: Speaking of obscene - LJ - 9/3/2003 8:14:09 PM
        
        Reading between the lines?? - Tom Brosz - 9/3/2003 11:47:03 PM
        
        Some info - LJ - 9/3/2003 8:35:33 PM
        
        Wars are bad? No kidding. - Scott Evil - 9/3/2003 10:33:40 PM
- re: The Promise and the Threat - Tom Brosz - 9/3/2003 3:47:53 PM
  - re: The Promise and the Threat - Greg - 9/3/2003 4:52:37 PM

Argh!! Cubs not only screw pooch, they buy it dinner first. - Tom Brosz - 10/15/2003 3:11:50 AM
- Is there no quiet refuge from the stultifying boredom of MLB? - p - 10/15/2003 12:32:46 PM
  - re: Is there no quiet refuge from the stultifying boredom of MLB? - Betsy - 10/15/2003 3:35:55 PM
- re: Damn rookie fan - SteveS - 10/15/2003 5:00:36 AM
  - Last I heard he was heading for Baffin Island. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 10/15/2003 5:23:48 AM
    - Judging from what my Cubs-fan co-workers are saying, he needs to go a lot farther... (n/t) - McFly - 10/15/2003 5:59:17 PM
    - If the Cubs don't make the World Series... - Larry J - 10/15/2003 1:58:52 PM
      - He will survive as will the Cubs...there's always next year! - Scott Evil - 10/15/2003 2:08:32 PM

U.N. May Change U.S. Proposal on Iraq . . . - D. Spires - 10/15/2003 2:41:41 AM
- Odd since most UN Operations are based on results, not calendars - ebnelson - 10/15/2003 12:52:39 PM

Governor Groper - a study in contrasts - Don - 10/12/2003 3:04:18 PM
- Irrelevant: He will still have to settle with Enron - E.P. Grondine - 10/14/2003 5:33:02 PM
- Don't look at me, I voted for McClintock. - Tom Brosz - 10/13/2003 4:52:09 AM
  - Winners and losers - Gary - 10/13/2003 5:00:00 PM
    - Bi-partisan cooperation - FrankC - 10/13/2003 6:14:11 PM
- So adultery by a President in office is supposed to equate to immature flirtations by an unmarried actor / bodybuilder? - RobVG - 10/12/2003 6:31:22 PM
  - "Immature flirtations?!?" - Don - 10/12/2003 7:29:56 PM
    - re: "Unwanted foddling of a woman's breast in a public setting?!?" - D. Spires - 10/13/2003 10:07:09 PM
    - The problem with the charges - ebnelson - 10/12/2003 9:15:47 PM
      - re: The problem with the charges - Don - 10/13/2003 2:30:02 PM
        
        If you choose to ignore the news go ahead (n/t) - ebnelson - 10/14/2003 11:41:32 AM
        
        "right wing radio gossip." You wish. - Tom Brosz - 10/13/2003 5:41:58 PM
    - Sorry, I wasn't keeping abreast of the accusations. - RobVG - 10/12/2003 8:20:35 PM
    - considering the delayed reaction - FrankC - 10/12/2003 8:16:17 PM
      - How many guys here have been groped by a woman's breasts? - Lee - 10/12/2003 9:08:37 PM
        
        Imagine your girlfriend, if you have one... - Mary Anne - 10/12/2003 9:40:26 PM
        
        To be fair to all positions.... Including the women in question, Arnold, and his ardent fans here on the Zone - Davin L - 10/13/2003 1:27:03 AM
        
        Aren't we the knight in shining armor... - RobVG - 10/13/2003 2:23:37 AM
        
        I said I'd be fair, not yield to all sides. - Davin L. - 10/13/2003 3:16:49 AM
        
        It goes on a lot in big cities too. - Lee - 10/13/2003 4:31:25 AM
        
        And don't ever let us forget it. - RobVG - 10/12/2003 10:45:31 PM
        
        Ah, male bonding. - Mary Anne - 10/12/2003 11:30:38 PM
        
        Nothing funny about any of those things - FrankC - 10/12/2003 10:09:08 PM
        
        What should a woman do? - Lindy - 10/13/2003 3:43:46 AM
        
        "Can't imagine why anyone would wait years to complain" - Tom Brosz - 10/13/2003 4:58:13 AM
        
        Wow, reality seldom phases your political machine. You should get paid for your crap! - Davin L. - 10/13/2003 3:24:26 PM
        
        Two things - FrankC - 10/13/2003 6:01:25 PM
        
        No merit - Mary Anne - 10/15/2003 4:57:47 AM
        
        You make my point for me. - Tom Brosz - 10/13/2003 5:01:48 PM
        
        No, I don't. At least not on planet earth. - Davin L - 10/13/2003 11:46:16 PM
        
        re: No, I don't. At least not on planet earth. - Tom Brosz - 10/14/2003 3:05:08 AM
        
        The dog with only right legs will hunt in endless circles, finding nothing... - Davin L. - 10/14/2003 3:34:31 AM
        
        "All of this ONLY means that the LA times has an agenda it does NOT mean that Arnold S is pure as the driven snow" Well, friggin' DUH. - Tom Brosz - 10/14/2003 5:00:48 AM
        
        Oh come on tom! - Davin L. - 10/14/2003 1:59:50 PM
        
        First, a woman should say STOP! - Lee - 10/13/2003 4:47:37 AM
        
        That is a favorite of some women - FrankC - 10/12/2003 9:33:15 PM

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