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Robert — 8/28/2003 3:48:07 PM (archived)

What makes you think my concern over gerrymandering is a new thing? I've seen the practice as corrupt ever since I learned about it, years ago. I see it as a symptom of a flaw in the system, one too tempting for politicians to ignore. Human nature won't change, so the only way to address the problem is to remove the temptation by eliminating the need for it. The need to periodically adjust district boundaries is a clear indication that the concept of geographical voting districts is a sloppy one that needs constant tweaking.

When you assert that Republicans are exercizing a "legitimate" power, again you're confusing what's right with what's legal. A legal power that's so easily and frequently abused certainly lacks legitimacy as far as I'm concerned. When politicians abuse a legal power then we the people have a duty to figure out how to take that power away from them.

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Run away...run far, far away (and please never return) - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/25/2003 6:31:14 AM
- The respect of the voters towards the democrats on this - ebnelson - 8/26/2003 4:30:07 AM
  - The Democratic voters... - alcaray - 8/26/2003 5:48:05 PM
    - When the pie is cut - ebnelson - 8/27/2003 3:44:20 AM
      - Yeah They Need To Be More Like Republican Roy Moore (n/t) - Mark Eby - 9/1/2003 9:31:07 PM
- And now, the rest of the story - Robert - 8/25/2003 1:22:29 PM
  - If you think you are perceiving it correctly - ebnelson - 8/26/2003 4:42:42 AM
  - "power-mad fascist pigs", "typical jack-booted heavy-handed thuggish way" - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/25/2003 10:20:29 PM
  - Get serious. - Tom Brosz - 8/25/2003 6:05:24 PM
    - Late to my own party; and some thoughts on the phenomenon of gerrymandering - Robert - 8/26/2003 9:34:54 PM
      - Oops, I fell down (& other excuses for not voting) - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/28/2003 2:18:45 AM
        
        re: Oops, I fell down (& other excuses for not voting) - Robert - 8/28/2003 3:40:16 PM
        
        Decisive versus democratic. - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/28/2003 5:04:32 PM
        
        re: Decisive versus democratic. - Robert - 8/28/2003 5:47:44 PM
        
        Missing the big picture - Tom Brosz - 8/29/2003 4:28:37 AM
        
        re: Decisive versus democratic - Deathmatch, Tonight at 9, on CNN! - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/28/2003 6:47:50 PM
      - Comments on your plan, and my plan - alcaray - 8/26/2003 10:21:49 PM
        
        Who programs the robot? ;) (n/t) - Mary Anne - 8/27/2003 4:06:23 AM
        
        OOH!!! Me Me!! Pick Me!!! ;-) (n/t) - Davin HonestMan L. - 8/27/2003 8:28:01 PM
        
        One reason I'm suspicious of computerized voting schemes (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/27/2003 7:04:54 PM
        
        I imagine there would be huge battles over it's creation - alcaray - 8/27/2003 4:02:42 PM
        
        That's the problem - Robert - 8/27/2003 4:31:53 PM
        
        I don't see that your "interest group" plan... - alcaray - 8/27/2003 6:50:52 PM
        
        And the problem would be? - Robert - 8/27/2003 9:04:18 PM
        
        Example - Robert - 8/27/2003 9:12:28 PM
        
        I didn't think you were defining "interest group"... - alcaray - 8/27/2003 9:54:22 PM
        
        I wasn't - Robert - 8/27/2003 11:46:06 PM
        
        I like alcaray's idea - Tom Brosz - 8/26/2003 11:17:43 PM
        
        re: I like alcaray's idea (lol) - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/28/2003 8:56:28 PM
        
        That's "libertarian" to you, buddy. - Tom Brosz - 8/29/2003 4:34:12 AM
        
        re: That's "He-Man, Master of the Universe" to you, buddy. - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/31/2003 1:39:47 AM
        
        Government power - Tom Brosz - 8/31/2003 10:11:29 PM
        
        Capital Flight - JN - 9/1/2003 1:34:36 AM
        
        re: Capital Flight - Tom Brosz - 9/1/2003 5:36:24 AM
        
        re: Capital Flight - JN - 9/1/2003 5:54:17 AM
        
        Giving business a seat at the table - Robert - 8/27/2003 4:50:40 PM
        
        Stuck inside the box - Robert - 8/27/2003 4:06:24 PM
    - I wonder what Robert meant - ebnelson - 8/26/2003 4:57:43 AM
      - re: I wonder what Robert meant - Robert - 8/26/2003 9:40:44 PM
        
        So when dems are in the majority, anything goes - ebnelson - 8/27/2003 3:39:25 AM
        
        Zzzzzzzzzzz.... - Robert - 8/27/2003 4:59:27 PM
        
        re: Zzzzzzzzzzz.... - ebnelson - 8/28/2003 3:00:37 AM
        
        re: Zzzzzzzzzzz.... - Robert - 8/28/2003 3:48:07 PM
        
        Democracy is the worst form of government - ebnelson - 8/30/2003 1:19:22 AM
        
        re: I wonder what Robert meant - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/27/2003 1:26:09 AM
        
        re: I wonder what Robert meant - LJ - 8/27/2003 6:07:26 PM
        
        re: I wonder what Jesus meant? - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/27/2003 6:30:19 PM
        
        re: I wonder what ebnelson meant? - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/27/2003 6:58:23 PM
        
        So Joe is from the modern math school of politics - ebnelson - 8/27/2003 12:52:51 PM
        
        Moderator, are vulgarities and abuse acceptable on this board? - skeptical - 8/27/2003 6:00:15 AM
        
        lol, "teeacherr, Joey's using baad words!" - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/27/2003 7:24:10 AM
        
        Actually, 'skeptical' has a point - Robert Shepherd, Moderator - 8/27/2003 4:16:12 PM
        
        Not a problem, really - Tom Brosz - 8/27/2003 9:25:40 PM
        
        Do I see the Bowser pattern playing itself out? - alcaray - 8/27/2003 11:36:41 PM
        
        re: Do I see the Bowser pattern playing itself out? - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/30/2003 1:35:53 AM
        
        re: Do I see the Bowser pattern playing itself out? - Tom Brosz - 8/28/2003 7:01:20 AM
        
        Cling to that one Tom, cause it's all you're gonna get. (n/t) - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/28/2003 8:03:27 PM
        
        No - alcaray - 8/28/2003 3:46:04 PM
        
        For the record... - Tom Brosz - 8/29/2003 4:43:56 AM
        
        re: Do I see the Bowser pattern playing itself out? Probably,... but - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/28/2003 12:23:33 AM
        
        In case you didn't have the pleasure of knowing Bowser... - alcaray - 8/28/2003 4:10:07 PM
        
        And a similar debating technique! ;) (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/29/2003 4:45:00 AM
        
        re: In case you didn't have the pleasure of knowing Bowser... - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/28/2003 6:53:39 PM
        
        Wouldn't know (and I shudder to think of it). But he did a lot of barking! - alcaray - 8/28/2003 8:26:58 PM
        
        Sourcing Standards A Benefit Of A Generally Pro-Science Crowd - Mark Eby - 8/28/2003 2:16:02 PM
        
        re: Sourcing Standards A Benefit Of A Generally Pro-Science Crowd - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/28/2003 5:34:29 PM
        
        ROTFLMAO! - Davin L. - 8/28/2003 12:14:41 AM
        
        re: Not a problem, really ,... no, no, REALLY! - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/27/2003 9:49:05 PM
        
        Bob der Modereetor - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/27/2003 5:55:10 PM
    - re: Get serious. (Indeed) - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/25/2003 6:31:37 PM
      - re: Indeed - Tom Brosz - 8/25/2003 6:57:12 PM
        
        re: Indeed - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/25/2003 7:18:54 PM
        
        That's why Ralph Nader is the true left's only hope N/T (n/t) - Anne Leftleaner - 8/25/2003 11:24:02 PM
  - moo - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/25/2003 2:49:09 PM
  - moo - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/25/2003 2:49:00 PM
    - Great minds think alike - Robert - 8/26/2003 9:43:36 PM
  - Here, here - Don - 8/25/2003 1:42:13 PM
- re: Run away...run far, far away (and please never return) - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/25/2003 7:29:47 AM
- The link was ashamed and ran away too. ;-) - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/25/2003 6:34:14 AM

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