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Joe_Nietzsche — 8/27/2003 6:30:19 PM (archived)

LJ,

Oops,... Looks like Iâ€™m going to have to fire my research team lead,...
the son-of a.... *urf*

In representative democracy, the goal is representation. With 57.62% commanding 98% of the seats in the legislature there is little question regarding whether or not itâ€™s actually representative. However, to be very clear, it is not. It is about 40% over representative. Which begs the question, who is representing that 40% whoâ€™s votes were essentially thrown out by our utterly brilliant FPTP system?

Note to ebnelson,
You may want to pay attention to this odd little concept, REPRESENTATION... as it is at the core of our political system.

Urgumph,... feel profanity coming on,... must re--sist,...urg!

You can thank Bobby the Mooderator (he likes gaudy rings from the 70s) for that bit of restraint on my part there, Mr. Nelson.

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Run away...run far, far away (and please never return) - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/25/2003 6:31:14 AM
- The respect of the voters towards the democrats on this - ebnelson - 8/26/2003 4:30:07 AM
  - The Democratic voters... - alcaray - 8/26/2003 5:48:05 PM
    - When the pie is cut - ebnelson - 8/27/2003 3:44:20 AM
      - Yeah They Need To Be More Like Republican Roy Moore (n/t) - Mark Eby - 9/1/2003 9:31:07 PM
- And now, the rest of the story - Robert - 8/25/2003 1:22:29 PM
  - If you think you are perceiving it correctly - ebnelson - 8/26/2003 4:42:42 AM
  - "power-mad fascist pigs", "typical jack-booted heavy-handed thuggish way" - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/25/2003 10:20:29 PM
  - Get serious. - Tom Brosz - 8/25/2003 6:05:24 PM
    - Late to my own party; and some thoughts on the phenomenon of gerrymandering - Robert - 8/26/2003 9:34:54 PM
      - Oops, I fell down (& other excuses for not voting) - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/28/2003 2:18:45 AM
        
        re: Oops, I fell down (& other excuses for not voting) - Robert - 8/28/2003 3:40:16 PM
        
        Decisive versus democratic. - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/28/2003 5:04:32 PM
        
        re: Decisive versus democratic. - Robert - 8/28/2003 5:47:44 PM
        
        Missing the big picture - Tom Brosz - 8/29/2003 4:28:37 AM
        
        re: Decisive versus democratic - Deathmatch, Tonight at 9, on CNN! - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/28/2003 6:47:50 PM
      - Comments on your plan, and my plan - alcaray - 8/26/2003 10:21:49 PM
        
        Who programs the robot? ;) (n/t) - Mary Anne - 8/27/2003 4:06:23 AM
        
        OOH!!! Me Me!! Pick Me!!! ;-) (n/t) - Davin HonestMan L. - 8/27/2003 8:28:01 PM
        
        One reason I'm suspicious of computerized voting schemes (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/27/2003 7:04:54 PM
        
        I imagine there would be huge battles over it's creation - alcaray - 8/27/2003 4:02:42 PM
        
        That's the problem - Robert - 8/27/2003 4:31:53 PM
        
        I don't see that your "interest group" plan... - alcaray - 8/27/2003 6:50:52 PM
        
        And the problem would be? - Robert - 8/27/2003 9:04:18 PM
        
        Example - Robert - 8/27/2003 9:12:28 PM
        
        I didn't think you were defining "interest group"... - alcaray - 8/27/2003 9:54:22 PM
        
        I wasn't - Robert - 8/27/2003 11:46:06 PM
        
        I like alcaray's idea - Tom Brosz - 8/26/2003 11:17:43 PM
        
        re: I like alcaray's idea (lol) - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/28/2003 8:56:28 PM
        
        That's "libertarian" to you, buddy. - Tom Brosz - 8/29/2003 4:34:12 AM
        
        re: That's "He-Man, Master of the Universe" to you, buddy. - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/31/2003 1:39:47 AM
        
        Government power - Tom Brosz - 8/31/2003 10:11:29 PM
        
        Capital Flight - JN - 9/1/2003 1:34:36 AM
        
        re: Capital Flight - Tom Brosz - 9/1/2003 5:36:24 AM
        
        re: Capital Flight - JN - 9/1/2003 5:54:17 AM
        
        Giving business a seat at the table - Robert - 8/27/2003 4:50:40 PM
        
        Stuck inside the box - Robert - 8/27/2003 4:06:24 PM
    - I wonder what Robert meant - ebnelson - 8/26/2003 4:57:43 AM
      - re: I wonder what Robert meant - Robert - 8/26/2003 9:40:44 PM
        
        So when dems are in the majority, anything goes - ebnelson - 8/27/2003 3:39:25 AM
        
        Zzzzzzzzzzz.... - Robert - 8/27/2003 4:59:27 PM
        
        re: Zzzzzzzzzzz.... - ebnelson - 8/28/2003 3:00:37 AM
        
        re: Zzzzzzzzzzz.... - Robert - 8/28/2003 3:48:07 PM
        
        Democracy is the worst form of government - ebnelson - 8/30/2003 1:19:22 AM
        
        re: I wonder what Robert meant - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/27/2003 1:26:09 AM
        
        re: I wonder what Robert meant - LJ - 8/27/2003 6:07:26 PM
        
        re: I wonder what Jesus meant? - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/27/2003 6:30:19 PM
        
        re: I wonder what ebnelson meant? - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/27/2003 6:58:23 PM
        
        So Joe is from the modern math school of politics - ebnelson - 8/27/2003 12:52:51 PM
        
        Moderator, are vulgarities and abuse acceptable on this board? - skeptical - 8/27/2003 6:00:15 AM
        
        lol, "teeacherr, Joey's using baad words!" - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/27/2003 7:24:10 AM
        
        Actually, 'skeptical' has a point - Robert Shepherd, Moderator - 8/27/2003 4:16:12 PM
        
        Not a problem, really - Tom Brosz - 8/27/2003 9:25:40 PM
        
        Do I see the Bowser pattern playing itself out? - alcaray - 8/27/2003 11:36:41 PM
        
        re: Do I see the Bowser pattern playing itself out? - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/30/2003 1:35:53 AM
        
        re: Do I see the Bowser pattern playing itself out? - Tom Brosz - 8/28/2003 7:01:20 AM
        
        Cling to that one Tom, cause it's all you're gonna get. (n/t) - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/28/2003 8:03:27 PM
        
        No - alcaray - 8/28/2003 3:46:04 PM
        
        For the record... - Tom Brosz - 8/29/2003 4:43:56 AM
        
        re: Do I see the Bowser pattern playing itself out? Probably,... but - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/28/2003 12:23:33 AM
        
        In case you didn't have the pleasure of knowing Bowser... - alcaray - 8/28/2003 4:10:07 PM
        
        And a similar debating technique! ;) (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/29/2003 4:45:00 AM
        
        re: In case you didn't have the pleasure of knowing Bowser... - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/28/2003 6:53:39 PM
        
        Wouldn't know (and I shudder to think of it). But he did a lot of barking! - alcaray - 8/28/2003 8:26:58 PM
        
        Sourcing Standards A Benefit Of A Generally Pro-Science Crowd - Mark Eby - 8/28/2003 2:16:02 PM
        
        re: Sourcing Standards A Benefit Of A Generally Pro-Science Crowd - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/28/2003 5:34:29 PM
        
        ROTFLMAO! - Davin L. - 8/28/2003 12:14:41 AM
        
        re: Not a problem, really ,... no, no, REALLY! - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/27/2003 9:49:05 PM
        
        Bob der Modereetor - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/27/2003 5:55:10 PM
    - re: Get serious. (Indeed) - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/25/2003 6:31:37 PM
      - re: Indeed - Tom Brosz - 8/25/2003 6:57:12 PM
        
        re: Indeed - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/25/2003 7:18:54 PM
        
        That's why Ralph Nader is the true left's only hope N/T (n/t) - Anne Leftleaner - 8/25/2003 11:24:02 PM
  - moo - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/25/2003 2:49:09 PM
  - moo - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/25/2003 2:49:00 PM
    - Great minds think alike - Robert - 8/26/2003 9:43:36 PM
  - Here, here - Don - 8/25/2003 1:42:13 PM
- re: Run away...run far, far away (and please never return) - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/25/2003 7:29:47 AM
- The link was ashamed and ran away too. ;-) - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/25/2003 6:34:14 AM

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