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gbaikie — 3/18/2004 5:51:00 AM (archived)

As for it being "relatively easy" for Truman, his Secretary of State, George Marshall, probably the most popular man in America at the time, was adamantly against the U.S. supporting Israel's statehood, as were the Joint Chiefs of Staff. According to them, Truman was turning his back on U.S. stategic interests, alienating the oil-producing Arab countries and pushing them into the arms of the Soviets.

It was easy, he simply ordered it. The President is the boss regarding US foreign policy. If the President had to enter into some treaty that would different- he would need to get the Senate to approve. Or if the President needed money, he would have to go through Congress. But as you make the point, everyone who knew anything about US foreign policy was against the idea.

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Terrorists and the vote - Tom Brosz - 3/15/2004 1:29:47 AM
- Protect the US??!! GWB was Prez when 9-11 happened!!! - Bowser - 3/16/2004 3:34:36 AM
  - Of course you don't have the integrity to respond to the chronology of clintoon's screw offs on CE (n/t) - ebnelson - 3/17/2004 4:25:04 AM
  - And thanks for the laugh - REB - 3/16/2004 1:07:48 PM
    - Really. Clinton was NOT President. - Bowser - 3/16/2004 5:33:20 PM
      - He was during 3 Al Qaeda attacks that killed Americans. - REB - 3/16/2004 6:03:41 PM
        
        re: He was during 3 Al Qaeda attacks that killed Americans. - pa krause - 4/7/2004 7:24:37 AM
        
        And GWB tried to cut Clinton's counter-terrorism budget. - Bowser - 3/16/2004 6:53:13 PM
        
        re: Really serious . . . ? - D. Spires - 3/16/2004 9:07:34 PM
        
        How can you KNOW that? - Bowser - 3/17/2004 4:48:01 AM
        
        re: Too funny . . . - D. Spires - 3/18/2004 8:00:15 PM
        
        Perhaps 9/11 could have been stopped, back in 1993 - REB - 3/17/2004 1:12:32 PM
        
        Memory lane - R.L. - 3/18/2004 9:13:55 AM
  - Not that spin again- sigh - REB - 3/16/2004 1:02:49 PM
- re: Terrorists and the vote - Mary Anne - 3/16/2004 1:56:42 AM
  - You really shouldn't be reading Tom's language, Mary Anne. - Bowser - 3/16/2004 3:31:53 AM
- dont get how you could think it would not be a major campaign issue - alcaray - 3/15/2004 11:25:38 PM
  - re: a major campaign issue - Tom Brosz - 3/15/2004 11:52:23 PM
    - I'd be embarrassed to make points like that (n/t) - alcaray - 3/16/2004 5:34:25 PM
    - I don't care what the entire membership of al Qaeda think about my Presidential election! - Mary Anne - 3/16/2004 2:13:16 AM
      - It doesn't matter at all what you think Mary Anne. - Tom Brosz - 3/16/2004 6:48:30 AM
        
        Oh, *that's* interesting . . . - Fox - 3/16/2004 4:10:45 PM
        
        Oh, but it does. - Mary Anne - 3/16/2004 12:51:07 PM
        
        re: Oh, but it does. - Tom Brosz - 3/17/2004 3:33:56 AM
        
        Things that don't make the headlines... - Mary Anne - 3/17/2004 12:22:23 PM
        
        re: Things that do - Fox - 3/18/2004 5:56:48 AM
        
        Excellent Post Mary Anne........ - Lindy - 3/17/2004 6:16:05 PM
    - Actually, Tom - Al Queda - 3/16/2004 1:51:35 AM
      - re: Actually, Tom - gbaikie - 3/16/2004 3:22:03 AM
        
        doesn't get the joke (n/t) - alcaray - 3/16/2004 5:36:14 PM
        
        re: doesn't get the joke (n/t) - gbaikie - 3/16/2004 7:58:20 PM
        
        lol be carefull - r.l. - 3/16/2004 8:05:46 AM
    - "It will make Democrats angry....' Tom says....BULLSHIT!! - Lindy - 3/16/2004 12:33:31 AM
- Except for that, what do you think of me? - Bowser - 3/15/2004 1:17:43 PM
- re: Terrorists and the vote - REB - 3/15/2004 1:10:07 PM
- re: Terrorists and the vote - Odin - 3/15/2004 4:21:45 AM
  - Childishness and blithering idiots - FrankC - 3/15/2004 4:41:35 AM
    - Candy Ass Weaklings? Blithering idiots? - Lindy - 3/15/2004 10:08:12 PM
    - Get control of your vitriolic diarrhea before you embarrass yourself further - Odin - 3/15/2004 8:19:55 AM
      - Your Naivety is the supreme self-embarrassment - FrankC - 3/15/2004 7:28:09 PM
    - It is always necessary to understand. - Bowser - 3/15/2004 6:26:38 AM
      - We already understand them. - Tom Brosz - 3/15/2004 6:47:23 AM
        
        With all due respect, I don't think we've got the first foggiest idea - McFly - 3/15/2004 3:31:12 PM
        
        Excellent Post McFly...........thanks (n/t) - Lindy - 3/15/2004 9:38:39 PM
        
        re: With all due respect, I think I've been tracking this closer than you have. - Tom Brosz - 3/15/2004 5:26:11 PM
        
        That's entirely possible - McFly - 3/15/2004 6:16:27 PM
        
        re: That's entirely possible - gbaikie - 3/16/2004 1:29:40 AM
        
        Why do approximately half the members here assume... - McFly - 3/16/2004 3:07:51 PM
        
        re: Why do approximately half the members here assume... - gbaikie - 3/16/2004 8:43:17 PM
        
        Re: your ignorance of history - Odin - 3/16/2004 11:16:17 PM
        
        re: Re: your ignorance of history - gbaikie - 3/17/2004 5:45:40 AM
        
        re: Re: your ignorance of history - Odin - 3/17/2004 6:49:04 AM
        
        re: Re: your ignorance of history - gbaikie - 3/17/2004 10:36:49 AM
        
        re: Re: your ignorance of history - Odin - 3/18/2004 3:33:36 AM
        
        re: Re: your ignorance of history - gbaikie - 3/18/2004 5:51:00 AM
        
        Suggestion - alcaray - 3/18/2004 5:17:12 PM
        
        re: Suggestion - gbaikie - 3/18/2004 8:32:06 PM
        
        Your argument isn't logically sound - Odin - 3/19/2004 12:31:51 AM
        
        re: Your argument isn't logically sound - gbaikie - 3/19/2004 7:58:15 AM
        
        re: That's entirely possible - Tom Brosz - 3/15/2004 7:01:12 PM
        
        human bombs - FrankC - 3/15/2004 6:49:44 PM
        
        And are you learning? That's the key. - Bowser - 3/15/2004 6:15:39 PM
        
        It's the extremists who're doing the bombing - Larry J - 3/15/2004 4:26:35 PM
        
        re: It's the extremists who're doing the bombing - Odin - 3/15/2004 10:52:01 PM
        
        As long as you believe that, alone, you're right. - Bowser - 3/15/2004 4:53:50 PM
        
        If by civilians, you mean people who are not part of an organized military... - Larry J - 3/15/2004 8:51:18 PM
        
        OK FrankC... - Lindy - 3/15/2004 9:51:20 PM
        
        re: OK FrankC... - Larry J - 3/16/2004 3:15:10 PM
        
        Reply to LarryJ - Lindy - 3/16/2004 9:29:13 PM
        
        Nice post Lindy (n/t) - Tony - 3/17/2004 5:17:09 PM
        
        Quite frankly... - SDG - 3/16/2004 12:27:47 AM
        
        re: Quite frankly...Lindy is confused (n/t) - gbaikie - 3/16/2004 1:05:17 AM
        
        Nothing new (n/t) - Todd - 3/16/2004 10:26:39 PM
        
        What Rumsfeld understands and you, Frank, and Steyn don't . . . - Odin - 3/15/2004 7:39:00 AM
- Well said (n/t) - ebnelson - 3/15/2004 4:06:30 AM

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