Apples and oranges
I understand where you're coming from, and we've come to an impasse.
You are speaking of using fear and violence to raise kids (which I don't agree with), but there is nothing wrong with raising your voice, slapping their behind or flicking a finger on their noggin.
I raised my kids patiently, firmly and with a lot of love, and I came as close to a saint as I could. Mine survived, and if they want to raise my grandchildren the same way, more power to them! My kids think I am excellent mother and let me know it all the time.
I am very proud of them both.
