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Why harrass the citizenry in the name of Homie Security? - phil - 7/27/2005 1:35:33 AM
- Racial profiling won't work - Larry J - 7/28/2005 1:57:29 PM
  - Agreed. - Scott Evil - 7/28/2005 5:10:18 PM
    - If I were trying to smuggle a weapon... - Larry J - 7/28/2005 6:25:10 PM
- Fixed strategies - Robert - 7/27/2005 7:20:29 PM
  - re: Fixed strategies - phil - 7/27/2005 11:39:12 PM
    - What do you have against librarians, Phil? - Robert - 7/28/2005 2:53:14 AM
      - re: What do you have against librarians, Phil? - p - 7/28/2005 1:31:43 PM
        
        Trust the government, Phil, they're looking out for your best interests - Robert - 7/28/2005 4:30:04 PM
      - Remember "Loose lips sink ships"? - Lee - 7/28/2005 5:46:44 AM
        
        Defending the City article in the New Yorker - PETB - 7/28/2005 5:44:09 PM
- Homie Security - Lindy - 7/27/2005 3:37:25 AM

NYT "Government Defies an Order to Release Iraq Abuse Photos" - phil - 7/26/2005 10:16:48 PM
- Pentagon Blocks Release of Abu Ghraib Images: Shame is Why - Eric - 7/27/2005 2:59:19 AM
  - Why? Maybe to avoid inciting easily crazed jihadists - p - 7/27/2005 3:01:58 PM
    - I'm starting to think that the get Bush crowd would be willing to lose a major American city and its inhabitants just to "get Bush" - Scott Evil - 7/28/2005 5:21:55 PM
      - Terrorist attacks are on the rise exponentially - Lindy - 7/28/2005 5:34:03 PM
- Well, that's kind of embarrassing... - Tom Brosz - 7/27/2005 1:32:33 AM
  - "The leftist blogosphere went into a day-long primal scream about that." - Lindy - 7/27/2005 3:41:17 AM
    - Lindy... - Tom Brosz - 7/27/2005 9:01:04 AM
      - You are absolutely correct........... - Publius - 7/27/2005 3:50:39 PM
        
        re: You are absolutely correct........... - Tom Brosz - 7/27/2005 8:26:40 PM
      - For one........ - Lindy - 7/27/2005 3:02:43 PM
      - you really are patient, I'll grant you that (n/t) - Daniel - 7/27/2005 2:47:16 PM

Throwing a very small book... - Tom Brosz - 7/28/2005 6:43:56 AM
- re: Throwing a very small book... - p - 7/28/2005 1:25:47 PM
  - He'll be out in 14 years with good behavior. - Scott Evil - 7/28/2005 5:02:58 PM
    - Opps, I forgot...It is wrong to attack a sitting judge. Their decision are always to be respected. - Scott Evil - 7/28/2005 5:27:29 PM

Qatar buys off Al-Qaeda attacks with oil millions - David F Mayer - 7/27/2005 3:06:18 PM
- The Saudis found out that deal is subject to, as Vader might put it, "alteration." (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 7/27/2005 8:10:07 PM
  - "... alteration at any time without prior notice." (n/t) - David F Mayer - 7/28/2005 1:36:00 PM
- Qatar is probably playing it shrewd - Gary - 7/27/2005 3:59:52 PM
  - consequences - p - 7/27/2005 4:18:23 PM
    - re: consequences - Raoul - 7/27/2005 6:06:22 PM
    - nightmares - Gary - 7/27/2005 5:01:20 PM
      - Yes. the war on terror would be lost in that senario. - Scott Evil - 7/28/2005 4:45:15 PM
      - re: nightmares - p - 7/27/2005 11:42:55 PM
        
        There are lots of historical parallels along these lines - Gary - 7/28/2005 4:47:01 AM
        
        Yeap. - Scott Evil - 7/28/2005 4:50:58 PM

Islam in Indonesia - p - 7/28/2005 2:26:06 PM

CAFTA squeaks through the House, 217-215 - Tom Brosz - 7/28/2005 7:28:00 AM

Jane Fonda in her vegetable powered vehicle tour......... - Publius - 7/27/2005 2:10:20 PM
- A leopard doesn't change its spots. (n/t) - Gary - 7/27/2005 4:02:55 PM

DNC touts Amerisave program - p - 7/27/2005 2:38:59 PM

Former agents criticize Bush over CIA leak - Donald - 7/23/2005 12:41:30 AM
- re: Former agents - Tom Brosz - 7/23/2005 3:31:49 AM
  - Typical - Donald - 7/23/2005 5:04:49 AM
    - Donald, the "breaking" story is 2 years old. Wake up. (n/t) - Sam F. - 7/23/2005 5:44:50 PM
      - You want it to go away and it won't - Donald - 7/23/2005 9:01:39 PM
        
        Actually... - Tom Brosz - 7/23/2005 10:17:57 PM
        
        Downing Street Memos? - Tony - 7/26/2005 4:47:50 PM
        
        It isn't about sympathy with Bush - Tom Brosz - 7/26/2005 6:28:54 PM
        
        Nice try - Tony - 7/26/2005 6:35:30 PM
    - Oh, please. - Tom Brosz - 7/23/2005 6:52:35 AM
      - There you go ahead - Donald - 7/23/2005 4:02:50 PM
        
        Okay, shorter version: they're political hacks. - Tom Brosz - 7/23/2005 6:37:03 PM
        
        Speaking of hacks.... - Tom Brosz - 7/24/2005 2:01:43 AM
        
        re: Speaking of hacks.... - Lindy - 7/26/2005 8:34:17 PM
        
        More on Larry Johnson - Tom Brosz - 7/26/2005 7:02:01 AM
        
        CIA was the problem pre 911 & needs massive purging - p - 7/26/2005 11:01:12 AM
        
        "They missed the entire paradigm shift to the 21st century. " - Lindy - 7/26/2005 8:48:53 PM
        
        "go for the red herrings and eat it up". - Tony - 7/26/2005 8:51:43 PM
        
        3 strikes between p and Tom. Yer out. - Tony - 7/26/2005 2:18:06 PM
        
        Nice try. - Tom Brosz - 7/26/2005 3:40:42 PM
        
        Business as usual - Tony - 7/26/2005 4:20:03 PM
        
        I'm sorry. Are we living on the same planet? - Tom Brosz - 7/26/2005 6:39:23 PM
        
        "It's a non-issue?" - Lindy - 7/26/2005 8:57:05 PM
        
        Apparently not - Tony - 7/26/2005 7:54:03 PM
        
        FWIW - Tony - 7/26/2005 8:07:32 PM
        
        try reading before responding - p - 7/26/2005 3:17:33 PM
        
        As do you - Tony - 7/26/2005 3:28:43 PM
        
        Johnson is pulling a Plame... - Scott Evil - 7/26/2005 1:26:11 PM
      - Ouch! - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/23/2005 7:07:09 AM
  - re: Former agents - Chris Vancil - 7/23/2005 4:17:54 AM
    - re: Former agents - Tom Brosz - 7/23/2005 4:35:12 AM
      - Question for you on the NYT outing - Tony - 7/26/2005 5:20:23 PM
        
        And how do they do that without blowing the rest of the operation? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 7/26/2005 6:52:49 PM
        
        What rest of the operation? - Tony - 7/26/2005 8:47:33 PM
      - Bush's dad fire Rove for being a leak before. How things change! (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 7/23/2005 8:14:09 AM
      - re: Former agents - Chris Vancil - 7/23/2005 8:11:52 AM
        
        Your second sentence reveals the motivations. - Tom Brosz - 7/23/2005 6:39:01 PM
        
        re: Nope! You're wrong it does matter and you don't get. - Chris Vancil - 7/23/2005 8:00:36 PM
        
        Give it a rest. I don't know who you think you're trying to convince. - Tom Brosz - 7/23/2005 10:16:43 PM
        
        re: Give it a rest? Sure when you ask Bush to do what he said he would then you help promote the prosecution of Rove...then I will give it a rest. (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 7/24/2005 6:21:11 AM
        
        re: Give it a rest - Tom Brosz - 7/24/2005 6:44:20 AM
        
        No Tom! You don't get it and I suspect won't ever. It was an agent he outed. - Chris Vancil - 7/25/2005 3:40:26 AM
        
        Give it up Chris - Tony - 7/26/2005 6:01:35 PM
        
        re: Rove has harmed the nation's security for some petty machiavellian nonsense! He deserves conviction and prison, but Bush will pardon him... - Chris Vancil - 7/26/2005 9:29:12 PM
        
        re: Give it a rest. I don't know who you think you're trying to convince. - p - 7/23/2005 10:47:48 PM

1,782 - Donald - 7/26/2005 12:49:47 PM

Great article on terrorisim's strategy - p - 7/26/2005 12:47:39 PM

An Iraqi soldier - Tom Brosz - 7/25/2005 5:21:07 AM
- I don't know......... - Publius - 7/25/2005 7:53:48 PM
  - It's a popular name on the internet. - Tom Brosz - 7/25/2005 10:43:36 PM
- But Tom, some here avoid blogs like crabs - Sam F. - 7/25/2005 1:18:49 PM

1,777 - Donald - 7/25/2005 2:00:22 PM
- Today in history - Sam F. - 7/25/2005 3:46:45 PM

Hewitt fisks Tancredo - Tom Brosz - 7/25/2005 2:32:56 AM

First they came for the Teapot, and I did nothing. - Lee - 7/25/2005 1:09:53 AM

1,770 - Donald - 7/20/2005 1:51:42 PM
- And here's what they've been doing. - Tom Brosz - 7/20/2005 10:15:26 PM
- Probably in large part due to bad WMD intellegence given by CIA agent Valarie Plame (n/t) - Scott Evil - 7/20/2005 10:06:52 PM
  - A cheap shot that... - Donald - 7/21/2005 12:54:34 AM
    - re: A cheap shot that... BALONEY - p - 7/21/2005 2:08:10 PM
      - I'm sorry - alcaray - 7/21/2005 8:09:54 PM
        
        How do you know my sources don't exist? - Scott Evil - 7/22/2005 10:09:54 PM
        
        Show me, then. - alcaray - 7/24/2005 8:13:48 PM
        
        My bad, if it's a joke against a rabid Bush hater, it's not funny (n/t) - p - 7/22/2005 2:11:06 AM
    - I'm sure Mrs. Plame is a nice lady. - Scott Evil - 7/21/2005 11:52:48 AM
      - Not entirely the CIA's fault. - RobVG - 7/22/2005 4:28:04 AM
        
        Maybe it was a ruse. If so, it was used by both the Clinton Administration and the Bush Administration - Scott Evil - 7/22/2005 12:23:05 PM
    - This from someone who keeps talking about Bush's "dirty little war" - Sam F. - 7/21/2005 7:28:15 AM

Explosions in Egypt - Tom Brosz - 7/22/2005 11:47:21 PM
- Didn't you read the last paragraph? - Mary Anne - 7/23/2005 8:54:03 PM
  - You are, of course, right. - Tom Brosz - 7/23/2005 10:20:01 PM
    - Oops. Missed the irony. My mistake. (n/t) - Mary Anne - 7/24/2005 5:28:18 PM
- Egypt must be paying the consequences for its troops occupying Iraq (n/t) - p - 7/23/2005 4:03:24 PM
- re: Explosions in Egypt - Mac - 7/23/2005 4:08:03 AM
  - Example: the assassination of Anwar Sadat (n/t) - Fox - 7/23/2005 5:29:37 PM
- Let me guess, done by Hindus? Buddists? Sephardic Jews? Unitarians? ... (n/t) - p - 7/23/2005 2:43:00 AM

Sweden next? - p - 7/23/2005 6:02:23 PM
- Sweden lost one of her sons - Alan G. Archer - 7/24/2005 1:20:16 PM
- As near as I can tell, Terrorists are equal opportunity murderers (n/t) - Eri - 7/24/2005 3:57:11 AM

London Bombings some initial thoughts - p - 7/21/2005 2:27:59 PM
- meanwhile .. - Daniel - 7/21/2005 2:58:48 PM
  - re: meanwhile .. - p - 7/21/2005 4:01:22 PM
    - yes I know - Daniel - 7/21/2005 4:57:05 PM
      - Howard's actual words - p - 7/22/2005 4:12:32 PM
        
        did you actually type that out yourself, verbatim? - Daniel - 7/23/2005 10:32:44 AM
        
        re: did you actually type that out yourself, verbatim? - p - 7/23/2005 3:54:46 PM
        
        fair enough .. - Daniel - 7/24/2005 3:28:56 AM

Some progress in the Iraqi constitution - Tom Brosz - 7/23/2005 8:37:30 PM

ACLU wins a big one - Tom Brosz - 7/21/2005 5:21:17 PM
- Boy Scouts - FrankC - 7/21/2005 7:06:59 PM
- Those evil boys scouts should stop planting bombs on subways. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 7/21/2005 6:25:45 PM
- re: "war against the Boy Scouts" - Fox - 7/21/2005 6:19:31 PM
  - re: "war against the Boy Scouts" - Tom Brosz - 7/21/2005 11:47:45 PM
    - re: "war against the Boy Scouts" - Fox - 7/22/2005 12:55:11 AM
      - re: "war against the Boy Scouts" - Tom Brosz - 7/22/2005 1:51:30 AM
        
        The establishment clause is used to combat government-funded religious discrimination. - Mary Anne - 7/22/2005 5:19:09 PM
        
        I am curious... - R.L. - 7/22/2005 6:46:37 AM
        
        Yes, I was. - Tom Brosz - 7/22/2005 5:32:16 PM
        
        They kick people out for their religious beliefs. - Mary Anne - 7/23/2005 8:27:04 PM
        
        Thank you Senator Santorum - Tony - 7/22/2005 6:37:23 PM
        
        You're welcome. - Tom Brosz - 7/23/2005 12:09:52 AM
        
        Nice try - tony - 7/23/2005 1:48:06 AM
        
        Environments - Tom Brosz - 7/23/2005 4:01:29 AM
        
        Could it be that places which ban crosses also embrace moral degenerates? - Lee - 7/23/2005 3:57:48 AM
        
        re: the Boy Scouts - Fox - 7/22/2005 2:34:04 AM

BBC News: UK boy wrongly labelled as bomber - Eric - 7/22/2005 3:32:44 PM
- Better that, than 5 caps to the head - p - 7/23/2005 6:58:29 PM
- re: BBC News: UK boy wrongly labelled as bomber - p - 7/22/2005 3:50:49 PM

Saddam & Al Quadea's roles creating Ansar Al Islam - p - 7/23/2005 5:18:49 PM

1,774 - Donald - 7/23/2005 4:06:43 PM

Pakistanis have caught al Qaeda scumbag behind London atrocities - Gary - 7/21/2005 2:13:33 AM
- And then I hope the Brits turn their backs... - Eri - 7/21/2005 2:53:25 AM
  - No (n/t) - tony - 7/23/2005 1:40:11 AM

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