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How could anyone call this man a liar? - alcaray - 7/18/2005 8:36:03 PM
- Iâ€™m not necessarily defending Bush here, butâ€¦ - Todd - 7/19/2005 1:00:03 AM
- Media in damage control mode - Tom Brosz - 7/18/2005 8:49:23 PM
  - can you say "Bommerang"? - Scott Evil - 7/18/2005 9:46:07 PM
    - yeah, but my German teacher tells me it's not a real word. (n/t) - Mac - 7/19/2005 6:37:52 AM
  - I take it you don't want to talk about what Bush said... - alcaray - 7/18/2005 9:32:14 PM
    - What Bush said verses what the Press claim he said - Larry J - 7/19/2005 3:09:17 AM
      - a few more quotes - alcaray - 7/19/2005 5:31:44 PM
      - From such small things are hopes hung - on both sides. (n/t) - Tony - 7/19/2005 1:37:00 PM
        
        And, the bottom line - FrankC - 7/19/2005 7:32:35 PM
        
        Because Republican character does not count (n/t) - alcaray - 7/19/2005 8:00:29 PM
        
        Republican character does not count - FrankC - 7/19/2005 8:34:09 PM
        
        Was I? - alcaray - 7/19/2005 8:55:09 PM
        
        ONE!!! ONCE!!! - FrankC - 7/19/2005 9:09:29 PM
        
        funny - alcaray - 7/19/2005 10:00:45 PM
        
        Remember "restoring honor and integrity to the White House"? - Tony - 7/19/2005 8:49:05 PM
        
        Still a lot more than before. - Tom Brosz - 7/19/2005 9:35:29 PM
        
        I am not particularly impressed.... - FrankC - 7/19/2005 9:00:01 PM
    - "Damage control" has a precise meaning. - Tom Brosz - 7/18/2005 10:35:23 PM
    - Cry about Bush. This whole thing is going to come back to haunt Clinton. - Scott Evil - 7/18/2005 10:07:48 PM
      - I heard Monica L. was......... - Publius - 7/19/2005 10:09:41 PM
      - Wow! The right wing is going crazy over this. (n/t) - alcaray - 7/18/2005 11:03:32 PM

US: Outsourcing Torture - Eric - 7/16/2005 3:21:25 AM
- Of course, we outsource EVERYTHING. - David F Mayer - 7/19/2005 3:56:35 PM
- re: US: Outsourcing Torture - R.L. - 7/16/2005 8:05:38 AM

Good news for Al Qaeda: Terrorist released in Germany - David F Mayer - 7/18/2005 9:56:31 PM
- To bad their aren't any predator drones flying above the point of release. - Scott Evil - 7/18/2005 10:13:25 PM
  - The USA should send agents to shadow him upon release - David F Mayer - 7/19/2005 3:51:30 PM

1,764 - Donald - 7/18/2005 1:23:49 AM
- Possibly all caused by bogus WMD reports Commissioned from Valarie Plume by the Clinton Administration (n/t) - Scott Evil - 7/18/2005 10:36:11 PM
  - Ah, Valerie Plume, the Smoke Woman. (n/t) - Mac - 7/19/2005 6:44:03 AM

When will we start closing the borders? - Tom Brosz - 7/17/2005 10:43:55 PM
- Scarey - Eri - 7/18/2005 3:00:14 AM
  - Military Bases along the border - REB - 7/18/2005 12:35:32 PM
  - Political correctness is a powerful force to overcome. - Lee - 7/18/2005 4:06:05 AM
    - Was this supposed to be a reply to Eri? (n/t) - alcaray - 7/18/2005 5:40:13 PM
      - Yes it was. - Lee - 7/18/2005 7:26:30 PM
        
        So 1500 miles of "very good fence" and 150 "small bases" and 20-30k new govt. employees... - alcaray - 7/18/2005 8:43:52 PM
        
        That's the bad news, they won't. - Lee - 7/19/2005 5:03:43 AM
        
        Don't hold your breath. - Tom Brosz - 7/18/2005 8:58:28 PM
        
        whattaya gonna do? - A. Leftleaner - 7/18/2005 9:19:19 PM

Nuking Mecca - Buck Galaxy - 7/18/2005 4:09:55 PM
- He never said "nuke," but, whatever. - Tom Brosz - 7/19/2005 1:34:43 AM
- re: Nuking Mecca - dtb - 7/18/2005 6:08:43 PM
  - We threatened to do the same to Kiev and Minsk. - Lee - 7/18/2005 7:26:48 PM
    - Mecca and Medina? Why stop there? - Mary Anne - 7/19/2005 12:14:10 AM
      - re: Mecca and Medina? Why stop there? - gbaikie - 7/19/2005 1:37:23 AM
        
        Well twenty 5,000 lb JDAMs on the Dome of the Rock would be in order as well. - Lee - 7/19/2005 4:57:50 AM
- Nuking Mecca?......Naw, but consideration could be given - Publius - 7/18/2005 5:58:47 PM
  - deja vu - Daniel - 7/18/2005 6:23:35 PM
    - re: deja vu all over again........... - Publius - 7/18/2005 10:05:14 PM
      - yep it is good enough for a rerun or three (n/t) - Daniel - 7/19/2005 4:21:47 AM

1,768 - Donald - 7/19/2005 4:14:27 AM

In Plame leaks, long shadows - Donald - 7/17/2005 2:55:37 PM
- Could it be that Plame made up Stories of Sadam's WMD program to give Clinton cover to bomb him anytime Clinton needed a distraction? - Scott Evil - 7/18/2005 9:27:24 PM
- Pushing a war, punishing dissent - Donald - 7/17/2005 3:13:25 PM
  - Follow the Uranium - Donald - 7/17/2005 3:23:30 PM
  - Man does that Seattle Times have it in for Bush or what? - p - 7/17/2005 3:18:24 PM
    - Typical neocon reaction... - Donald - 7/17/2005 3:29:11 PM
      - Face it, Donald, the Democrats hit the wall face first again. - Tom Brosz - 7/17/2005 9:19:56 PM
      - Meanwhile: Top Cheney Aide Among Sources in CIA Story - Donald - 7/17/2005 4:40:54 PM
        
        I suggest we add a Donald board where he can post with himself exclusively (n/t) - p - 7/17/2005 5:44:56 PM
        
        For shame - Sam F. - 7/17/2005 6:28:06 PM
        
        Oh come on... All Don does is tow the Al Frankin line. - Scott Evil - 7/18/2005 9:30:46 PM

Your US Military in action - phil - 7/15/2005 11:01:07 PM
- A point I'd overlooked the first time I read this. - Tom Brosz - 7/18/2005 7:43:46 PM

Walking through walls - gbaikie - 7/18/2005 6:36:28 PM

Unexplained Hot Spot Heats Up Ground In SoCal - Eric - 7/16/2005 1:16:36 PM
- My best guess: Another volcano arising from the ground, - David F Mayer - 7/17/2005 3:05:03 PM
  - Hope Tommy Lee Jones is around to help (n/t) - Tony - 7/18/2005 4:56:25 PM
- Portal to hell in SoCal? Why not? It's got everything else. - Eri - 7/16/2005 3:05:03 PM
  - Reminds me of a joke. - David F Mayer - 7/17/2005 3:06:33 PM
    - LOL! - Eri - 7/17/2005 6:20:20 PM

More from the "freedom fighters." - Tom Brosz - 7/18/2005 4:29:07 PM

Significant Number of Medical Studies Are Wrong - p - 7/18/2005 1:36:39 PM
- That is ALWAYS the way it is with Science. - David F Mayer - 7/18/2005 2:00:48 PM

More on "suicide" bombers. - Tom Brosz - 7/17/2005 9:46:50 PM
- Looks like the explosive was TATP... - R.L. - 7/17/2005 10:48:18 PM

Just a little bit of good news from Iraq - Tom Brosz - 7/15/2005 6:54:34 AM
- "good news from Iraq?!?" - Donald - 7/17/2005 3:57:52 PM
  - A bit more from the same source - Tom Brosz - 7/17/2005 10:00:31 PM
    - Now, think about it. - Tom Brosz - 7/17/2005 10:06:15 PM
  - News flash for Donald - Sam F. - 7/17/2005 6:39:47 PM
- My skepticism insists tht "good news from Iraq" - David F Mayer - 7/15/2005 8:35:59 PM
- re: Just a little bit of good news from Iraq - Doug Ellison - 7/15/2005 8:39:18 AM
  - Got it. - Sam F. - 7/15/2005 10:25:00 AM
    - re: Got it. - Doug Ellison - 7/15/2005 11:29:07 AM
      - You almost had it, just for a second..... - Sam F. - 7/15/2005 1:02:44 PM
        
        re: You almost had it, just for a second..... - Doug Ellison - 7/15/2005 1:06:03 PM
        
        The man who wrote that LIVES there. - Tom Brosz - 7/15/2005 6:23:51 PM
        
        re: The man who wrote that LIVES there. - Doug Ellison - 7/16/2005 9:06:45 AM
        
        It doesn't. - Tom Brosz - 7/16/2005 6:05:55 PM
        
        re: It doesn't. - Doug Ellison - 7/16/2005 7:13:54 PM
        
        It depends - Tom Brosz - 7/17/2005 8:11:59 AM
        
        It's A Complete Disaster - Mark Eby - 7/15/2005 10:58:38 PM
        
        Realistic outlook - Tom Brosz - 7/16/2005 4:57:12 AM
        
        And now for something completely different - Sam F. - 7/15/2005 7:18:15 PM

More bad news for Al Qaeda - David F Mayer - 7/17/2005 2:54:38 PM

Bush babes get down with the sistahs in Africer - p - 7/16/2005 1:17:36 AM
- The real story is Jena - SteveS - 7/17/2005 12:37:48 PM

Has anyone noticed that in Middle East news coverage... - Tom Brosz - 7/15/2005 7:21:58 PM
- Here's one from the Washington Post - Tom Brosz - 7/17/2005 8:09:20 AM
- Jihad's battle cry: The Israelis started it. They shot back! (n/t) - David F Mayer - 7/15/2005 8:29:37 PM
- Link - Tom Brosz - 7/15/2005 7:27:26 PM

Cooper: It was Rove - Donald - 7/14/2005 5:12:08 AM
- re: Cooper: It was Rove - gbaikie - 7/14/2005 9:31:08 AM
  - Excuse me but.... - Donald - 7/14/2005 2:15:26 PM
    - It appears no crime was committed by revealing her name... - Larry J - 7/14/2005 7:34:12 PM
      - Then why all the lies? (n/t) - alcaray - 7/17/2005 12:02:08 AM
      - Covert or not covert, That is the question - Tony - 7/14/2005 8:25:56 PM
        
        From what I've read... - Larry J - 7/14/2005 8:39:16 PM
        
        Though to paraphrase something else I read........ - Tony - 7/14/2005 9:07:13 PM
    - "admitting to something he had previously denied" - Tony - 7/14/2005 4:09:19 PM
      - re: As if . . . - Mac - 7/14/2005 6:13:03 PM
- Bush's Promise - Mac - 7/14/2005 5:26:40 AM
  - The implications of Fox News running the story... - Donald - 7/14/2005 5:30:56 AM
    - re: The implications of Fox News running the story... - Mac - 7/14/2005 6:11:05 PM
- Meanwhile: Poll suggests drop in Bush's personal credibility - Donald - 7/14/2005 5:15:53 AM

ABC News links Bin Laden to Terrorists - p - 7/16/2005 5:28:33 PM
- Saddam, I assume you meant. - Tom Brosz - 7/16/2005 6:00:29 PM

1,762 - Donald - 7/16/2005 4:11:55 PM

From the National "Education" Association - Tom Brosz - 7/13/2005 7:04:46 PM
- The NEA's Representative Assembly (RA) addresses labor concerns. The "Captain" linked to *their* action items. - Mary Anne - 7/13/2005 10:30:15 PM
  - If truth in advertising laws applied to organization names... - Larry J - 7/14/2005 1:52:31 PM
    - I pointed out that the highlighted section is concerned with labor issues. - Mary Anne - 7/14/2005 2:35:06 PM
  - re: The NEA's Representative Assembly - Tom Brosz - 7/14/2005 1:01:27 AM
    - Yes, I read them. - Mary Anne - 7/14/2005 2:55:09 AM
      - NEA budget - Tom Brosz - 7/14/2005 7:26:52 AM
        
        PS re: NEA budget - Mary Anne - 7/14/2005 1:15:31 PM
        
        The NEA is not obliged to use their funds for improvements to institutions funded by taxes. - Mary Anne - 7/14/2005 1:07:16 PM
    - Thanks Tom... - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/14/2005 2:33:48 AM
      - I see you didn't read anything else the NEA does, either. - Mary Anne - 7/14/2005 2:58:22 AM
        
        That wasn't my point. - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/14/2005 3:57:57 AM
        
        You have a point re union power - dtb - 7/14/2005 1:34:58 PM
        
        I don't care. - Mary Anne - 7/14/2005 4:29:37 AM
        
        re: I don't care. - gbaikie - 7/15/2005 8:41:53 AM
        
        You're still in River Rouge in 1941. Time to move on. - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/14/2005 5:48:45 AM
        
        You're still in the Guilded Era of the late 1800s. Time to wake up. - Mary Anne - 7/14/2005 1:01:27 PM
        
        Actually it's more likely the Reagan/Thatcher era of the 1980s - Daniel - 7/16/2005 5:01:16 AM
        
        Love the unbiased source (n/t) - Sam F. - 7/16/2005 10:50:16 AM
        
        so do I (n/t) - Daniel - 7/16/2005 1:14:02 PM
      - It goes without saying... - Tom Brosz - 7/14/2005 2:36:54 AM

Anger At Government Grows In Bombings' Wake - p - 7/14/2005 5:40:52 PM
- this was satire? - Tony - 7/14/2005 6:02:59 PM
  - Possible revenge for the oxymoron known as "British humor" (n/t) - p - 7/14/2005 6:15:25 PM
    - re: Possible revenge for the oxymoron known as "British humor" - Doug Ellison - 7/15/2005 2:36:14 PM
      - intel - p - 7/15/2005 8:26:47 PM
        
        re: intel - Doug Ellison - 7/16/2005 9:11:40 AM

More Scrolls found in the Judean desert - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/16/2005 12:02:02 AM
- There are more interesting archeological treasures - Gary - 7/16/2005 5:36:34 AM
- reminds me of a line from a book .. - Daniel - 7/16/2005 4:40:54 AM

London Bombings "Bush's fault" - p - 7/15/2005 2:47:53 PM
- "Bush's fault?" You haven't seen anything yet. - Tom Brosz - 7/15/2005 7:55:10 PM
- Terrorists are friends we haven't appeased yet (n/t) - Sam F. - 7/15/2005 5:06:12 PM

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