re: Reality check

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re: Reality check

Tom Brosz — 3/9/2004 8:02:41 AM (archived)

I spent a day at the Louvre last summer, a place that really needs about a month to visit properly. I spent another day at the Musee d'Orsay, across the river.

I saw art.

None of it involved rotting meat, dead flies, urine, feces, or wanking mechanisms.

None of it was something that could just as easily have been done by an anacephalic chimp.

In the same way, Beethoven creates symphonies, not somebody sitting on a stage and banging the same key on a piano for an hour.

There are some fine modern artists, but quite a number of them bring an attitude to art that is similar to a little boy who comes in and drops his pants in front of the company just to get a reaction.

The mental state of those who declare that these "artists" are doing Fine and Profound things, and hand them awards, is probably best left to psychiatric professionals. If you really want to haul politics into it, fine. When you run into one of these worshipers of depravity, ask them if they're Republicans.

That's my "right wing" opinion. No nuances, sorry.

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Anyone seen the new Mel Gibson flick - FrankC - 2/29/2004 6:04:31 AM
- As soon as it comes out here I will. . . - Justin Kelly - 3/9/2004 4:43:53 AM
  - I agree with you about violence in films - Mary Anne - 3/10/2004 5:52:06 AM
    - Baseline American anti-Semitism - Fox - 3/11/2004 5:27:48 AM
      - (read this one instead, please) Baseline American anti-Semitism - Fox (with no HTML preview) - 3/11/2004 5:38:41 AM
    - Non-Gospel material - Tom Brosz - 3/11/2004 12:30:11 AM
      - Memories of a Catholic childhood - Mary Anne - 3/11/2004 2:47:26 PM
        
        PS - Mary Anne - 3/11/2004 3:19:31 PM
        
        re: PS - SDG - 3/11/2004 8:18:50 PM
        
        I wouldn't call it doctrine. It's certainly nowhere near official. - Mary Anne - 3/12/2004 11:12:18 PM
        
        re: PS - Tom Brosz - 3/12/2004 1:55:24 AM
        
        re: "talking the basics" - Fox - 3/13/2004 5:31:16 AM
        
        good post Fox, but - - daniel - 3/13/2004 12:29:24 PM
        
        thanks, Daniel - Fox - 3/13/2004 6:18:08 PM
        
        re: thanks, Daniel - Daniel - 3/14/2004 2:50:30 AM
        
        re: "talking the basics" - Tom Brosz - 3/13/2004 7:57:07 AM
        
        re: PS - SDG - 3/12/2004 7:24:03 PM
  - excellent post Justin (n/t) - SDG - 3/9/2004 8:43:02 PM
    - re: Very good, Justin. (n/t) - Marcia - 3/10/2004 3:37:16 AM
- interesting, balanced article - recommended - Daniel - 3/8/2004 2:17:26 PM
  - Thank you, Daniel. - Mary Anne - 3/9/2004 1:28:29 PM
    - well, thanks .. - Daniel - 3/9/2004 9:11:50 PM
  - Completely bigoted article, not recomended at all - Justin Kelly - 3/9/2004 5:16:27 AM
    - -sigh- I must have read it too quickly, actually not that bad of an articfle (n/t) - Justin Kelly - 3/9/2004 7:01:39 AM
      - thanks Justin. I thought it was balanced, as it really just 'describes the scenery' (n/t) - Daniel - 3/9/2004 10:48:54 AM
- $200 million plus, and counting... (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 3/8/2004 7:27:02 AM
  - "If money is all that you love, that is what you will receive." -- Princess Leia - Mary Anne - 3/8/2004 1:27:54 PM
    - I'm not counting money. I'm counting people. - Tom Brosz - 3/8/2004 6:46:55 PM
      - [puzzled] Did you post an article attached to the money reference? - Mary Anne - 3/9/2004 12:05:10 AM
      - selective vision---seeing what you want to see...per ususal - Publius - 3/8/2004 11:32:19 PM
- Reality check: what DOES qualify as "art" to the cultural elite - Tom Brosz - 3/8/2004 2:24:42 AM
  - re: Reality check: what DOES qualify as "art" to the cultural elite - Publius - 3/8/2004 11:58:53 PM
    - re: Reality check - Tom Brosz - 3/9/2004 8:02:41 AM
      - cash the Reality check....before it bounces. - Publius - 3/9/2004 6:12:41 PM
        
        some explanation - Daniel - 3/9/2004 9:50:06 PM
        
        re: some explanation - Publius - 3/10/2004 1:25:56 AM
      - Good post Tom! Funny! (n/t) - Lindy - 3/9/2004 5:48:05 PM
      - Only genius survives. - Mary Anne - 3/9/2004 2:01:46 PM
        
        re: Only genius survives. - gbaikie - 3/12/2004 10:10:58 AM
        
        Not only the morons are shocked. - Mary Anne - 3/13/2004 3:34:43 PM
        
        re: Only genius survives. - Tom Brosz - 3/10/2004 3:47:12 AM
        
        No one can remember art that isn't preserved. - Mary Anne - 3/10/2004 4:03:31 AM
        
        re: No one can remember art that isn't preserved. - Tom Brosz - 3/10/2004 8:39:33 AM
        
        would love to weigh in here - but must off to work. Maybe tonight .. (n/t) - daniel - 3/9/2004 9:52:41 PM
  - yeah .. - Daniel - 3/8/2004 2:25:18 PM
  - Oh, and don't forget this! - Mary Anne - 3/8/2004 3:24:11 AM
- Graphic violence - Tom Brosz - 3/1/2004 8:58:22 PM
  - The Passion - ebnelson - 3/7/2004 2:04:18 AM
    - Charles Krauthammer begs to differ with you. - Mary Anne - 3/7/2004 9:35:12 PM
      - They are both welcome to their opinions - ebnelson - 3/8/2004 12:33:45 AM
        
        Actually, I seldom remark on Charles Krauthammer's writing - Mary Anne - 3/8/2004 3:08:45 AM
        
        You have always had good taste - ebnelson - 3/8/2004 4:49:49 AM
        
        .. maybe - Daniel - 3/8/2004 9:51:18 AM
        
        You are very fortunate - ebnelson - 3/8/2004 1:40:22 PM
  - please clarify - Daniel - 3/2/2004 1:39:48 PM
    - re: please clarify - Tom Brosz - 3/2/2004 5:23:02 PM
      - partially but not completely clarified - Daniel - 3/3/2004 3:09:31 AM
      - Translation for Daniel: Tom decides (n/t) - alcaray - 3/2/2004 6:00:52 PM
        
        - yes .. and I wonder if he's also decided that I'm part of the 'asshat avalanche' and hence not worth engaging with? (n/t) - Daniel - 3/6/2004 3:42:50 PM
        
        re: part of the 'asshat avalanche' - Tom Brosz - 3/6/2004 10:49:11 PM
        
        your 'epithet' is obviously meant for 9/11 conspiracy-believers. But I was just wondering why you hadn't replied to my last Gibson post. No harm done :) (n/t) - Daniel - 3/7/2004 2:35:00 AM
        
        One more comment - Tom Brosz - 3/7/2004 11:42:41 PM
        
        re: One more comment - Daniel - 3/8/2004 10:16:19 AM
        
        What the blazes are you on about Tom? This is a discussion about Mel Gibson, not 9/11 - Daniel - 3/7/2004 2:02:23 AM
        
        Where did you first see the "avalanche" term? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 3/7/2004 11:15:34 PM
        
        from the 'Stopping Hitler' thread on Offtopic .. - Daniel - 3/8/2004 9:57:46 AM
- re: Anyone seen the new Mel Gibson flick - SDG - 3/1/2004 4:44:28 PM
- Richard Corliss of Time Magazine - Tom Brosz - 3/1/2004 6:33:11 AM
  - Bill Safire - Mary Anne - 3/3/2004 12:37:23 PM
- We need less Passion and more Life of Brian (n/t) - always look on the bright side of life - 2/29/2004 11:50:23 PM
- Another opinion, from someone who's seen it twice - Fox - 2/29/2004 8:29:44 PM
- I think it has a surprise ending - ebnelson - 2/29/2004 6:23:30 PM
- No, though I know some people who have. - Mary Anne - 2/29/2004 3:57:26 PM
  - difficult to watch - FrankC - 2/29/2004 6:25:14 PM
- dis-Passion-ate - Fox - 2/29/2004 3:54:09 PM
  - re: dis-Passion-ate - FrankC - 2/29/2004 6:33:03 PM
    - Mel's Aussie - Fox - 2/29/2004 8:08:46 PM
      - originally from the US - Daniel - 3/2/2004 1:22:58 PM
        
        That helps to explain how he does an American accent so well (n/t) - Fox - 3/7/2004 3:15:14 AM
      - I always thought he was an Aussie (n/t) - SDG - 3/1/2004 3:49:10 PM
        
        Can't believe I had forgotten. - FrankC - 3/1/2004 5:22:59 PM
- re: Anyone seen the new Mel Gibson flick - Lindy - 2/29/2004 6:26:43 AM

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