How are you going to have honest debate if to hold a dissenting opinion equals an accusation of treason?

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How are you going to have honest debate if to hold a dissenting opinion equals an accusation of treason?

Mary Anne — 8/31/2005 3:29:10 AM (archived)

Treason is a crime.

Nobody has gone to jail -- yet. First the ground has to be prepared. Such as knocking the slats out from under the meaning of the law.

Thanks for helping.

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I can't help but wonder... - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/30/2005 7:54:54 PM
- Who wrote the book of love... (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/31/2005 7:57:40 AM
  - Lieutenant Brosz, you've interrupted my thread. I'm sorry... there'll be no ice cream for you tonight. - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/31/2005 3:15:55 PM
    - My My, aren't you modest.... (n/t) - DL - 8/31/2005 6:00:00 PM
      - You're a bit young...it's lost in translation. (n/t) - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/1/2005 12:42:05 AM
        
        Hey, I remembered. Must be a geek shortage around here... - Tom Brosz - 9/1/2005 4:36:30 AM
        
        Yipes. I take it back. Just saw the rest of the thread. - Tom Brosz - 9/1/2005 4:38:05 AM
        
        I think paraphrasing Star Trek now is "old school" geek. - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/1/2005 5:20:47 AM
  - All you need is love. (n/t) - Mary Anne - 8/31/2005 12:50:05 PM
    - Love... you're better off without it, and I'm better off without mine. - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/31/2005 3:20:30 PM
      - "Love, Is A Many Splendored Thing."...... (n/t) - Publius - 8/31/2005 3:31:40 PM
        
        re: "Love, Is A Many *Splintered* Thing."...... (n/t) - DL - 8/31/2005 3:44:09 PM
        
        "What's LOVE got to do with it?" (n/t) - Lindy - 8/31/2005 5:12:30 PM
- You also can't help but be predictable - Fox - 8/31/2005 3:53:22 AM
  - Just another talent... - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/31/2005 5:08:08 AM
    - re: "come and gone" - Fox - 8/31/2005 3:04:56 PM
      - You know what Joe's mistake was? He wasn't born an lrishman (n/t) - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/31/2005 3:43:23 PM
        
        One more time! (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/1/2005 8:58:55 PM
        
        Why, that's rational of you SDAI........ (n/t) - Lindy - 8/31/2005 5:37:36 PM
    - how can you tar Fox, Robert et al with the same brush as 'go insurgents'? - Daniel - 8/31/2005 2:00:26 PM
      - Easy: tar -czpf insurgents /root/worthy/fox /root/worthy/fox - DL - 8/31/2005 3:49:43 PM
        
        hey bro, me big mojo, you get mine ponitifications serious-like .. - not that DL - 8/31/2005 5:21:36 PM
        
        oops:tar -czpf go_insurgents.tar /root/worthy/fox /root/worthy/fox (n/t) - DL - 8/31/2005 3:51:11 PM
        
        re: oops:tar -czpf go_insurgents.tar /root/worthy/fox /root/worthy/robert - DL - 8/31/2005 3:58:32 PM
        
        LOL...suh-weet! (n/t) - McFly - 8/31/2005 5:22:44 PM
        
        A ClearCase can be made that you should ZIP it and SIT (n/t) - Robert - 8/31/2005 4:00:12 PM
        
        ant, um, it is clear now that this is the prologue to a flame war.... (n/t) - DL - 8/31/2005 5:15:33 PM
        
        The post is prologue as we stack flames and pop the caller (n/t) - Robert - 8/31/2005 5:31:45 PM
        
        Don't push it too far, though. Our buffer here only goes so far... (n/t) - DL - 8/31/2005 5:33:30 PM
        
        That's why I implemented TOC paging (n/t) - Robert - 8/31/2005 5:35:31 PM
        
        LOL! good comeback. (n/t) - DL - 8/31/2005 5:47:17 PM
        
        Ohh, maybe I should have said 'good callback'! (n/t) - DL - 8/31/2005 5:58:49 PM
        
        Your right, Robert- I am only the Shell of the geek that you were bourne as. But please don't bash me too hard. (n/t) - DL - 8/31/2005 4:02:07 PM
        
        Oh, I wouldn't bash you, though I might hash you and /bin you (n/t) - Robert - 8/31/2005 4:05:36 PM
        
        Hmmm, I compute a key collision in this attempt to hash this thing out. I think we should not cast the object of this disagreement too strongly, I'm not sure I could, er, find the class in my library… (n/t) - DL - 8/31/2005 4:22:56 PM
        
        It's a matter of using the framework and respecting the class hierarchy, through which one inherits authority (n/t) - Robert - 8/31/2005 4:54:54 PM
        
        Although, through reflection, one can free oneself from the class hierarchy, and undermine its protections and the privacy of its members. (n/t) - DL - 8/31/2005 5:05:14 PM
        
        Worker threads of the world, interrupt! You have nothing to lose but your call chain! (n/t) - Robert - 8/31/2005 5:28:17 PM
        
        hey, I take exception() to, umm, Calls like that! Watch where you pointer that thing! Referncing things ut of memory like that could lead to global insecurity! (n/t) - DL - 8/31/2005 5:31:26 PM
        
        I try to buffer overruns, but sometimes I register a pointer overrun do to invalid memory, and it's all my fault (n/t) - Robert - 8/31/2005 5:34:50 PM
        
        Robert, its okay, we forgive your segmentation faults. don't feel better after such a core dump? Getting all of that corrupted memory off your chest? (n/t) - DL - 8/31/2005 5:48:57 PM
        
        It may be a corrupted memory, but I feel as though I was born of a General Protection Fault (n/t) - Robert - 8/31/2005 6:12:43 PM
        
        So it ends where it begins? Back at inheritance? Its an endless loop, eh? (n/t) - DL - 8/31/2005 6:16:12 PM
        
        do while( nature > nurture ) (n/t) - Robert - 8/31/2005 8:05:36 PM
        
        You Glib cat's need to be less object oriented and more interpretive before this thread turns into a huge Python. (n/t) - et - 8/31/2005 4:46:05 PM
        
        lisp-en up, Ecto... I know, ummm, smalltalk bores you, but maybe we can take a more functional approach? (n/t) - DL - 8/31/2005 5:10:06 PM
        
        A Perl of wisdom! (n/t) - Robert - 8/31/2005 4:55:19 PM
        
        Eiffel over tying to read this (n/t) - McFly - 9/1/2005 5:28:59 PM
        
        But then, some people like Hewlett-Packard so much they start to PHP (n/t) - Robert - 9/1/2005 6:47:33 PM
        
        Start preparing scripting. - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/31/2005 4:14:31 PM
        
        Shhhh! Stick with the script! (n/t) - Robert - 8/31/2005 4:55:54 PM
        
        or did you mean: 'Schtick with the script!' (n/t) - DL - 8/31/2005 5:10:54 PM
        
        Ohhhh null! (n/t) - Robert - 8/31/2005 5:36:20 PM
        
        What are you de-referencing with that remark? (n/t) - DL - 8/31/2005 5:49:40 PM
        
        I was trying to give Techie a pointer, but he overwrote it and returned null (n/t) - Robert - 8/31/2005 6:09:49 PM
        
        Maybe thats why he only returns garbage when I call him. (n/t) - DL - 8/31/2005 6:14:30 PM
        
        if( reply_humor < previous_humor ) return false; (n/t) - Robert - 8/31/2005 8:07:49 PM
        
        re: if( reply_humor < previous_humor ){ doFlame(currSubject)}; (n/t) - DL - 8/31/2005 8:31:24 PM
        
        } (n/t) - Robert - 8/31/2005 9:17:50 PM
        
        backspace backspace left-arrow ; - DL - 8/31/2005 10:00:34 PM
        
        No.... - Robert - 8/31/2005 10:50:31 PM
        
        Oh, sorry. My ParseError (n/t) - DL - 8/31/2005 11:05:22 PM
        
        That's quite a list you two have compiled. - et - 9/1/2005 4:22:50 AM
        
        Yeth, ithn't it? ... and they didn't Lisp onthe - Fox - 9/1/2005 2:46:35 PM
    - Your "talent" - Lindy - 8/31/2005 12:14:42 PM
      - Looks like... - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/31/2005 4:01:55 PM
        
        Or Godiva chocolates..... (n/t) - Lindy - 8/31/2005 5:43:22 PM
    - Treason is not protected by the First Amendment. - Mary Anne - 8/31/2005 11:56:59 AM
- you really should see an opthalmologist about that winking problem - Daniel - 8/31/2005 2:24:28 AM
  - Ah, that's just part of my comforting predictability. ;-) (n/t) - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/31/2005 7:06:12 AM
- "Nazis...in the HabitableZone...shrieking 'treason!'" - Robert - 8/30/2005 10:26:00 PM
- Sky: not falling. Calling your friends treasonous scumbags: likely to stir up some resistance. - alcaray - 8/30/2005 10:08:07 PM
- I Was Thinking Something Similar Today - Mark Eby - 8/30/2005 9:48:43 PM
  - Because it is a fine line they play with. - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/30/2005 11:50:43 PM
    - Compassion has nothing to do with it. - Mary Anne - 8/31/2005 12:35:12 AM
      - Depends on the situation - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/31/2005 2:50:32 AM
        
        "We need no new leftist martyrs"? - Lindy - 8/31/2005 3:40:04 AM
      - Please Explain - Mark Eby - 8/31/2005 2:00:39 AM
        
        Only when it's "your" Libeerty - Lindy - 8/31/2005 3:44:06 AM
        
        re: Only when it's "your" Libeerty - ID - 9/1/2005 2:35:55 PM
        
        I would agree with your first statement - Lindy - 9/2/2005 12:34:31 AM
        
        A nation of laws - Mary Anne - 8/31/2005 2:13:03 AM
        
        How About A Nation Of Laws and Honest Debate? - Mark Eby - 8/31/2005 2:28:36 AM
        
        "Are you defending the right to lie and mislead?" - Lindy - 8/31/2005 3:45:51 AM
        
        How are you going to have honest debate if to hold a dissenting opinion equals an accusation of treason? - Mary Anne - 8/31/2005 3:29:10 AM
        
        I Thought Way Better Of You Mary Anne - Mark Eby - 9/1/2005 2:32:08 AM
        
        Listen, Mr. Corkscrew: - Mary Anne - 9/1/2005 3:54:20 AM
        
        Very Easy Proof - ID - 9/1/2005 2:24:07 PM
        
        No proof at all. - Mary Anne - 9/1/2005 3:39:29 PM
        
        Side Note - ID - 9/1/2005 2:28:59 PM
        
        One more time... - Mary Anne - 9/1/2005 3:49:15 PM
        
        Ok, if you insist. I'll take you home Kathleen... (n/t) - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/1/2005 9:46:24 PM
        
        Do you think SDAI's started drinking again?? (n/t) - Lindy - 9/2/2005 12:44:48 AM
        
        Let Me Clarify One Sentence - Mark Eby - 9/1/2005 2:41:56 AM
        
        What he seeks is not debate - Fox - 8/31/2005 4:22:05 AM
        
        So Counting Is Also A Problem For You? - ID - 9/1/2005 2:58:26 PM
        
        What he seeks is not debate - Hence my lone contribution to the thread......... ;-) - Tony - 8/31/2005 3:11:51 PM
        
        Aw nuts again - Tony - 8/31/2005 3:13:19 PM
        
        [ Hysterical Laughter ] (n/t) - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/31/2005 4:26:11 PM
- wonder away... (n/t) - Tony - 8/30/2005 9:28:17 PM

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