re: I'm sure you believe and have faith that it is so.

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re: I'm sure you believe and have faith that it is so.

Johannes — 6/2/2006 4:29:22 AM (archived)

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Genesis in terms of physics - Johannes - 5/30/2006 3:28:35 AM
- You might want to go to one of the sources that does this - alcaray - 6/3/2006 5:49:26 PM
  - re: Can you suggest a source - Johannes - 6/4/2006 3:37:28 AM
    - Many - alcaray - 6/5/2006 10:40:03 PM
      - re: Thank you, the math concept becomes more vivid with the Hebrew version. - Johannes - 6/6/2006 4:53:13 AM
        
        Try Tolkien's creation from the Silmarillian, just for fun. - alcaray - 6/6/2006 11:30:00 PM
        
        Tolkien's creation myth - Fox - 6/9/2006 1:55:37 AM
        
        re: Silmarillian - Johannes - 6/7/2006 3:45:10 AM
        
        re: Silmarillian - Laurie Street - 6/8/2006 3:37:24 PM
- Observations. - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/1/2006 4:50:19 AM
  - re: Thank you for your input. - Johannes - 6/2/2006 12:23:42 AM
  - A definitional quibble - Robert - 6/1/2006 4:25:20 PM
    - re: A definitional quibble - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/1/2006 10:58:00 PM
      - quibbles and bits - Robert - 6/2/2006 1:35:58 AM
        
        Polarity Versus Binary & Existence & Nonexistence - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/2/2006 6:00:50 AM
- Please don't do this... - Mary Anne - 5/30/2006 1:45:14 PM
  - I don't follow that reasoning - SDF - 5/31/2006 1:32:10 AM
    - You follow the rational way. - Mary Anne - 5/31/2006 2:47:23 AM
      - Nobody's perfect - SDF - 5/31/2006 3:38:27 AM
        
        There's a big difference between institutionalizing a belief system... - Mary Anne - 5/31/2006 3:52:11 AM
        
        There is no god. (n/t) - SDF - 5/31/2006 8:01:02 AM
        
        re: I'm sure you believe and have faith that it is so. (n/t) - Johannes - 6/2/2006 4:29:22 AM
        
        There is man. - Mary Anne - 5/31/2006 12:44:12 PM
        
        She summed it up far more eloquently than I did below. - RNE - 5/31/2006 4:55:41 PM
        
        "Divine imminence" is terminology - SDF - 5/31/2006 5:21:56 PM
        
        ...and btw, it's "immanence"... - Mary Anne - 6/1/2006 5:07:00 PM
        
        Yeah, *people* cause measurable effects. - SDF - 6/1/2006 7:46:04 PM
        
        The people in question would disagree. - Mary Anne - 6/1/2006 10:42:01 PM
        
        They started it. - SDF - 6/2/2006 5:34:52 AM
        
        So you're an "eye-for-an-eye" man... - Mary Anne - 6/2/2006 1:19:51 PM
        
        Yes. - SDF - 6/2/2006 4:10:55 PM
        
        A pound of flesh - Mary Anne - 6/2/2006 8:58:51 PM
        
        I understand both sides - azstrummer - 6/2/2006 12:07:40 AM
        
        I'm not sure we have ever had a culture in which religion *hasn't* been a component. - Mary Anne - 6/2/2006 12:49:39 AM
        
        re: I'm not sure we have ever had a culture in which religion *hasn't* been a component. - azstrummer - 6/2/2006 4:49:20 AM
        
        Sacred - Mary Anne - 6/3/2006 12:56:36 AM
        
        re: Sacred - azstrummer - 6/4/2006 11:07:49 PM
        
        I understand from experience what I mean. - Mary Anne - 5/31/2006 8:28:54 PM
        
        Oh, never mind - RNE - 5/31/2006 7:02:59 PM
        
        Why shouldn't I? They think their beliefs are immutable and the supremacy of their religion is a birthright (n/t) - SDF - 6/1/2006 3:38:22 AM
        
        re: "Divine imminence" is terminology - REB - 5/31/2006 5:41:07 PM
        
        re: "Divine imminence" is terminology - azstrummer - 5/31/2006 11:40:12 PM
        
        re: "Divine imminence" is terminology - REB - 6/1/2006 12:29:41 PM
        
        re: "Divine imminence" is terminology - azstrummer - 6/1/2006 7:00:41 PM
        
        re: "Divine imminence" is terminology - REB - 6/1/2006 8:54:38 PM
        
        Pretty much demonstrates that religion is utterly irrational (n/t) - SDF - 6/1/2006 7:04:08 AM
        
        Imagining something doesn't make it real. (n/t) - SDF - 5/31/2006 1:20:09 PM
        
        Really? - Robert - 5/31/2006 5:51:23 PM
        
        Well, different religions wrote whole books on the subject. - SDF - 6/1/2006 7:26:59 AM
        
        Not being able to imagine something doesn't make it false. - Mary Anne - 5/31/2006 1:31:24 PM
        
        An exercise of faith is required........... - Publius - 5/31/2006 6:03:56 PM
        
        re: I wonder.... - Raoul - 6/1/2006 4:21:28 PM
        
        All that is required is........ - Publius - 6/6/2006 3:28:24 PM
        
        There is a psychological basis for your fundamentalist neighbors' behavior - SDF - 5/31/2006 4:21:11 PM
        
        We don't know that for certain. - REB - 5/31/2006 12:19:14 PM
        
        "We don't know everything yet." - SDF - 5/31/2006 1:05:07 PM
        
        re: "We don't know everything yet." - REB - 5/31/2006 1:18:04 PM
        
        Imagining something doesn't make it real. (n/t) - SDF - 5/31/2006 1:21:52 PM
        
        Not seeing something doesn't mean it is not there. - REB - 5/31/2006 1:28:40 PM
        
        Actually, I think it does. - SDF - 5/31/2006 3:53:41 PM
  - re: Thank you Mary Ann for that wonderful reply. - Johannes - 5/30/2006 6:14:16 PM
    - Religion and truth (or some facsimile thereof) - McFly - 5/31/2006 1:30:56 AM
      - re: Religion and truth (or some facsimile thereof) - Johannes - 5/31/2006 3:36:19 AM
        
        re: Religion and truth (or some facsimile thereof) - azstrummer - 6/1/2006 12:06:13 AM
        
        re: Interesting - Johannes - 6/1/2006 10:44:09 PM
        
        re: Interesting - azstrummer - 6/2/2006 12:12:12 AM
        
        re: Such is life :-) (n/t) - Johannes - 6/2/2006 12:20:26 AM
        
        re: Are you hinting that creativity or creation is absurd? (n/t) - Johannes - 6/1/2006 3:48:40 AM
        
        Oops, Freudian slip there. Absurd = Observed (n/t) - azstrummer - 6/1/2006 7:11:36 PM
        
        Hmmm, yer a wiley one! - McFly - 5/31/2006 5:03:01 PM
        
        re: Faith in science is a good start - Johannes - 6/1/2006 3:35:19 AM
        
        re: Faith in science is a good start - RNE - 6/6/2006 5:32:07 PM
        
        re: Faith in science is a good start - Johannes - 6/7/2006 3:29:48 AM
        
        Faith in Humanity's ability to step back from the edge of the Abyss. - RNE - 6/8/2006 12:39:29 PM
    - The knowable - Robert - 5/30/2006 11:13:51 PM
      - re: Thank you for pointing that out. - Johannes - 5/31/2006 4:07:04 AM
        
        Cosmology - Robert - 5/31/2006 4:52:45 PM
        
        re:The concepts that Leonard Susskind is advocating seem interesting. - Johannes - 6/1/2006 3:24:36 AM
        
        Genesis as metaphor - Robert - 6/1/2006 11:42:02 PM
        
        re: Sounds fair to me - Johannes - 6/2/2006 3:35:06 AM
        
        The problem with Genesis - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/2/2006 12:17:57 AM
        
        But what about Genesis? - Robert - 6/2/2006 2:08:28 AM
        
        re: But what about Genesis? - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/2/2006 4:58:01 AM
        
        re: Yes - Johannes - 6/2/2006 4:21:50 AM
        
        "Stage of development" - azstrummer - 6/2/2006 7:39:55 PM
        
        re: Let me try and understand your view point. - Johannes - 6/3/2006 4:12:42 AM
        
        re: Let me try and understand your view point. - azstrummer - 6/4/2006 11:21:11 PM
        
        re: Thank you for the compliment. - Johannes - 6/5/2006 5:55:46 AM
        
        re: Correction - Johannes - 5/31/2006 4:14:18 AM
      - tiny correction - Robert - 5/30/2006 11:15:37 PM
        
        re: tiny correction - Johannes - 5/31/2006 3:52:46 AM
        
        Yes - Robert - 5/31/2006 4:22:07 PM
        
        re: Thank you. (n/t) - Johannes - 6/1/2006 12:13:56 AM
  - I think along the same lines as Johannes here. - REB - 5/30/2006 5:40:35 PM
    - Poetry - Mary Anne - 5/31/2006 2:20:09 AM
      - re: Poetry - Fox - 5/31/2006 3:04:10 AM
  - Quite so - Robert - 5/30/2006 3:31:16 PM
  - A comment worthy of engraving on Stone. - RNE - 5/30/2006 1:51:38 PM
    - Can't we all just get along? - ljk - 5/30/2006 7:58:18 PM
      - If the leave me be, I'll leave them be. - RNE - 5/31/2006 4:47:09 PM
        
        re: If the leave me be, I'll leave them be. - ljk - 6/1/2006 2:41:45 PM
        
        Evolution in action? African fish could be providing rare example of forming two separate species, Cornell scientists speculate - LJK - 6/1/2006 7:07:49 PM
        
        re: Evolution in action? - RNE - 6/6/2006 5:21:01 PM

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