And it is a lie, a deliberate and malignant one. The first time I crossed swords with TB on this forum was when he sneeringly questioned my assertion that upon returning from Naval duty in Vietnam I experienced no disrespect from the students at my college because of my service. Neither had any of my fellow veterans, and neither did they report it from any of the veterans they knew. It simply was not an issue anywhere at the time. In fact, it was the veterans, mostly ex-grunts, who were LEADING the anti-war movement, not the comfortable stay- at-homes and draft-dodgers. I personally am convinced it was a malicious meme started by supporters of the war to discredit the anti-war movement: A Rightist tactic we've seen perfected in this administration and in this war.
Well, I can't blame anyone for swallowing an urban myth that was repeated as often as that one was, but to be publicly dismissed for feeling that way when I had actually experienced those times first-hand is a personal insult I still have not fully recovered from, and which I'm not inclined to forgive soon.
"the dispiriting lie"
The whole thread (112 posts)
- Garrison Keillor gets ripped a new one
- I wonder what he would think of an Irish wake? (n/t)
- Amazing!
- What did Keillor say? Your link doesn't go there.
- Once again, TB, you've done your part to heal our divisions and bring us together as a nation. (n/t)
- Garrison Keillor is right.
- re: Garrison Keillor
- There you do, generalizing again.
- Musings on memorial day
- veterans
- re: veterans
- Lies, damned lies, and statistics
- Ah. The "not increasing as fast as we think it should be" cut. A classic.
- Try to hold on to a little perspective
- From the other post you ignored...
- But PTSD isn't real.
- re: But PTSD isn't real.
- re: But PTSD isn't real. (n/t)
- Having trouble keeping track of the thread, Banjo Boy?
- I prefer a steel guitar. (n/t)
- Huh, So he did.
- Want to know why I ignored it?
- But PTSD isn't real.
- Ah. The "not increasing as fast as we think it should be" cut. A classic.
- Lies, damned lies, and statistics
- "the dispiriting lie"
- That reporter is wrong.
- Prove it
- For the record.
- Where do you get off...
- Oh gee, I dunno...
- Not a lie.
- But not the truth, either
- And it's not just about spit
- The site that is from has a vietnam veteran's story where he specifically says "I never had anyone spit on me upon my return from Vietnam."- any particular reason you didnt mention that fact? (n/t)
- And you want vindication of your side by ignoring an ugly truth.
- Not a lie.
- Yeah, Robert!!! His uncles could be decent human beings, nothing like Lee at all.... (n/t)
- Oh gee, I dunno...
- Prove it
- re: veterans
- re: Garrison Keillor
- What a pile of slanderous crap...
- ER
- re: Garrison Keillor
- Er...did your links lead to the intended destinations? (n/t)
- He's so far ahead in that department he'll never be caught. (n/t)
