It's inane to try and float the notion that the American Left of the 60s and early 70s did not have an enormous hostility to all things military, including people in uniform. I didn't spend that period of time living in a cave.
That they were a minority among Americans doesn't change that. And trying to isolate the hostility to a specific physical act (spitting) is misleading, to put the best face on it.
It would be like trying to isolate and quantify racism in the Old South by only counting the number of lynchings, and ignoring all other lesser behaviors.
A much more prevalent attitude among moderate Americans after Vietnam was discomfort, and trying to pretend it would all go away if nobody paid attention to it. This was a lot better than hostility, but not much help for many troubled veterans, who tended to find that their problems were being ignored.
The military personnel of the current conflict are getting a better general reception from most Americans than the veterans of Vietnam did. However, the hostility of the Far Left is still there.
I also don't think the more moderate liberals, who are not hostile toward the troops, quite understand the ramifications of demanding that our forces abdicate the battle, and the effect this would have on those same troops. They honestly believe that the average soldier or Marine wants nothing more than to come home, regardless of the circumstances under which it happens, including defeat. For most of them, this is not true.
This latter issue is much more significant than a few banners in a protest march.
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Remember "perspective?"
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- Garrison Keillor gets ripped a new one
- I wonder what he would think of an Irish wake? (n/t)
- Amazing!
- What did Keillor say? Your link doesn't go there.
- Once again, TB, you've done your part to heal our divisions and bring us together as a nation. (n/t)
- Garrison Keillor is right.
- re: Garrison Keillor
- There you do, generalizing again.
- Musings on memorial day
- veterans
- re: veterans
- Lies, damned lies, and statistics
- Ah. The "not increasing as fast as we think it should be" cut. A classic.
- Try to hold on to a little perspective
- From the other post you ignored...
- But PTSD isn't real.
- re: But PTSD isn't real.
- re: But PTSD isn't real. (n/t)
- Having trouble keeping track of the thread, Banjo Boy?
- I prefer a steel guitar. (n/t)
- Huh, So he did.
- Want to know why I ignored it?
- But PTSD isn't real.
- Ah. The "not increasing as fast as we think it should be" cut. A classic.
- Lies, damned lies, and statistics
- "the dispiriting lie"
- That reporter is wrong.
- Prove it
- For the record.
- Where do you get off...
- Oh gee, I dunno...
- Not a lie.
- But not the truth, either
- And it's not just about spit
- The site that is from has a vietnam veteran's story where he specifically says "I never had anyone spit on me upon my return from Vietnam."- any particular reason you didnt mention that fact? (n/t)
- And you want vindication of your side by ignoring an ugly truth.
- Not a lie.
- Yeah, Robert!!! His uncles could be decent human beings, nothing like Lee at all.... (n/t)
- Oh gee, I dunno...
- Prove it
- re: veterans
- re: Garrison Keillor
- What a pile of slanderous crap...
- ER
- re: Garrison Keillor
- Er...did your links lead to the intended destinations? (n/t)
- He's so far ahead in that department he'll never be caught. (n/t)
