Yeah, and as much as you'd like to THINK it has something to do with mis-direction on his part because of the economy, I can tell you it has nothing to do with it.
What it has got to do with is an ugly and gruesome legacy that's hanging over the US, thanks to Bush and Cheney. And it's not just strictly about "waterboarding" ("oh for pete's sake, they've been doing it for centuries"). It has to do with Abu Garaib and the horrid and abusive techniques that were ALLOWED there. Remember? Detainees thrown naked on top of each other four high, feces smeared all over them. Detainees forced to fellate other detainees. Chained naked with women's underwear on their heads near aggressive dogs.
Forced to stand for hours hooded on a small box with electrodes attached to sensitive body parts. In your mind, all that is allright? It's nothing new, move on?
Rumsfeld KNEW about this for months, and still no charges were brought, not did he stop it.
>"Obama is dying on the economy, and they have to revive some of the old Bush-era attack standbys to try and halt potential Republican gains. "
There ARE no Republican gains. Even Republicans are splitting from their own party because there's not that much left they can identify with except for the Rovian or Limaugh fans.
And Obama is doing a pretty damn good job bringing some sanity and morality back to the homefront, where there is much to repair, and much more to be offered to bring us back to that country that leads the world.
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- The elephant in the living room.
- I'll side with TB on this one
- If Everbody's talking about it, then it cannot be 'The elephant in the living room.'
- re: The elephant in the living room.
- You know...
- PS Re: Animal Love (Pet owners do NOT read - oops that excludes the entire Zone!)
- Life 101...seriously
- "The more our society decays the more it turns to pets for pseudo unconditional love and affirmation."
- I love my puppy
- This is so pathetic
- SDAI needs to go to the vet to be fixed.
- You're one sick bastard (n/t)
- I am sorry SDAI said that to you Bowser. (n/t)
- re: You know...
- You should have left the dog out of it. (n/t)
- PS Re: Animal Love (Pet owners do NOT read - oops that excludes the entire Zone!)
- More like a big, smelly fish
- Cheney says torture's no big deal - we learned a few things!
- I guess there really was an Axis of Evil after all.
- More of a red herring than an elephant.
- "- - - live with the burden of knowing that we have plumbed the shallows of their credibility, honesty and integrity." (n/t)
- Distraction or not....it's important to our Zoners Tom... (n/t)
- My turn...
- I don't have a porch. Sniff. (n/t)
- re: My turn...
- "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm." - attributed to Churchill
- My turn...
- re: More of a red herring than an elephant. (you should be ashamed of yourself Tom)
- It's not Bush Derangement,
