Not really.

TB — 4/4/2011 4:04:37 AM (archived)

We have representation. Taxation without receiving direct benefit is a long-standing precedent. Most of us pay taxes for things we'll never get directly, or even things we don't support, especially at the Federal level. It's not really supposed to be that way, but it's nothing new.

Means-testing just finally recognizes "entitlements" for what they've actually been for a long time.

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Eating the rich, day by day - TB - 4/1/2011 2:23:33 AM
- You are cute when you say *sheesh* - Jody - 4/2/2011 1:32:52 AM
- 40- Love. - Jody - 4/2/2011 1:07:48 AM
- Re: That guy sinks to a new level - TB - 4/2/2011 1:05:53 AM
- Hell's Bell's... - Jody - 4/2/2011 12:59:40 AM
- Re: Start by punching your pals in Washington - TB - 4/2/2011 12:47:05 AM
  - If you start borrowing money for your everyday expenses on a permanent basis in real life, you're dead. - Jody - 4/2/2011 7:21:52 PM
    - Re: Been there, did that too. - TB - 4/5/2011 4:01:05 AM
    - Been there, did that, many years ago - Eri - 4/5/2011 3:54:53 AM
  - Re: punching - TB - 4/2/2011 4:27:34 PM
  - Re: Re: Start by punching your pals in Washington - buckgalaxy - 4/2/2011 9:56:45 AM
- That guy sinks to a new level - Eri - 4/2/2011 12:46:15 AM
- I want to punch you in the face - buckgalaxy - 4/1/2011 11:25:40 PM
- Humorous? - mcfly - 4/1/2011 5:53:44 PM
- Re: Re: Re: Tortured false choice - TB - 4/1/2011 4:46:46 PM
  - Then why do you guys put so much effort into scanning his every word and refuting the worst you can find? n/t - alcaray - 4/1/2011 7:52:01 PM
    - Re: PS: 90%of the time - TB - 4/1/2011 8:27:42 PM
      - Re: No. Palin is in the news all the time. - ER - 4/2/2011 12:02:24 AM
      - No. Palin is in the news all the time. - alcaray - 4/1/2011 11:04:39 PM
    - PS: 90%of the time I hear about either of them... - alcaray - 4/1/2011 8:17:31 PM
- Re: Re: Tortured false choice - ER - 4/1/2011 4:39:50 PM
- Re: Tortured false choice - TB - 4/1/2011 2:37:21 PM
  - That's the false choice, all right. - alcaray - 4/1/2011 7:49:18 PM
    - Re: "Must?" - TB - 4/1/2011 8:39:42 PM
      - Re: Re: No, he didn't did he. - TB - 4/2/2011 1:10:37 AM
      - Re: And, of course... - TB - 4/2/2011 1:08:21 AM
        
        Re: Just shut up? - TB - 4/4/2011 2:51:15 AM
        
        Not really. - TB - 4/4/2011 4:04:37 AM
        
        Wouldn't that be akin to taxation without representation? - Lee - 4/4/2011 3:20:58 AM
        
        Just shut up - Eri - 4/3/2011 11:43:45 PM
        
        Re: No, you're wrong. - TB - 4/3/2011 10:33:50 PM
        
        You are so much in denial - Eri - 4/3/2011 9:12:05 PM
      - Re: No, he didn't did he. - Eri - 4/2/2011 12:56:03 AM
      - And, of course... - Eri - 4/2/2011 12:51:49 AM
      - No, he didn't did he. - TB - 4/2/2011 12:21:01 AM
        
        With both houses and the president moving in the direction of Republican solutions... - alcaray - 4/2/2011 12:54:51 AM
        
        Bets? - TB - 4/2/2011 1:33:42 AM
        
        Two points: - TB - 4/2/2011 2:34:04 AM
        
        ERI!!!! - Jody - 4/2/2011 9:18:17 PM
        
        What can I say? - Eri - 4/5/2011 3:55:50 AM
        
        Wrong. - TB - 4/2/2011 8:50:23 PM
        
        No, you're wrong. - Eri - 4/3/2011 9:15:32 PM
        
        Where our money really goes. - Eri - 4/2/2011 8:31:51 PM
        
        Is this the pee and poo thread? (n/t) - Eri - 4/2/2011 8:24:45 PM
        
        could be n/t - alcaray - 4/3/2011 10:33:16 PM
        
        Number One - TB - 4/2/2011 4:39:22 PM
        
        Re: So according to you, it is ok to tax business then. - TB - 4/3/2011 10:46:18 PM
        
        It's the most important government issue right now. - TB - 4/4/2011 10:22:29 PM
        
        You're refusing to get the point. - TB - 4/5/2011 1:16:47 AM
        
        "Here's a point for you to ignore" - Jody - 4/5/2011 11:17:22 PM
        
        If so, I learned that tactic from a master. - alcaray - 4/5/2011 11:05:17 PM
        
        CBO report - TB - 4/5/2011 11:41:49 PM
        
        RE: "You'd almost think the spending was the problem." - alcaray - 4/5/2011 12:57:17 AM
        
        Re: 10% unemployment to 5% - TB - 4/4/2011 11:48:10 PM
        
        q1: What happens to gdp when we go from 10% unemployment to 5%? - alcaray - 4/4/2011 10:29:55 PM
        
        I guess your every thread has to be about this. - alcaray - 4/4/2011 9:22:41 PM
        
        So according to you, it is ok to tax business then. - alcaray - 4/3/2011 10:28:12 PM
        
        Number Two - TB - 4/2/2011 4:32:59 PM
        
        Re: the idea of buying something on credit is anathema - TB - 4/3/2011 11:01:56 PM
        
        You are blaming a debt of 87 percent of GDP on Obama, too? - alcaray - 4/4/2011 9:31:08 PM
        
        Why yes, you do need to explain why the idea of buying something on credit is anathema. n/t - alcaray - 4/3/2011 10:32:25 PM
        
        Re: Two points: - alcaray - 4/2/2011 6:59:42 AM
        
        "At some point you need private businesses making lots of money to get economic growth..." - alcaray - 4/2/2011 2:10:34 AM
      - Bush did not need to deal with unemployment rates greater than 10% - alcaray - 4/1/2011 11:01:35 PM
- Tortured false choice extended beyond all rationality... - alcaray - 4/1/2011 4:42:55 AM

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