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Rush backs down: "Support the President but not his policies". - Bowser - 2/3/2009 10:33:58 PM
- Didn't he just get renewed for another year for $37 million? (n/t) - Lindy - 2/4/2009 4:08:30 PM
- That was Rush's stance the day he said it - SteveS - 2/4/2009 2:30:44 PM
- Rush needs a brain transplant. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 2/4/2009 3:06:31 AM
  - Nah..he has created a niche for himself. - Jody - 2/4/2009 1:55:23 PM
- Attack of the Zombie Republicans - z - 2/4/2009 12:37:36 AM
  - Not to bust up a good tirade... - TB - 2/4/2009 12:58:25 AM
    - The economics are pretty simple, actually - z - 2/4/2009 1:45:51 PM
      - Bigger government is not stimulas - SteveS - 2/5/2009 3:04:44 AM
      - It isn't 1930 any more. - TB - 2/4/2009 5:33:54 PM
        
        Honestly, the Republicans need to stop getting their economic advice from Joe the Plumber - z - 2/5/2009 1:10:08 AM
        
        Serious economists - TB - 2/5/2009 1:21:23 AM
        
        This list is more impressive - z - 2/5/2009 1:43:28 AM
        
        re: why more impressive? - TB - 2/5/2009 1:53:57 AM
        
        You have to admit there's been a major paradigm shift - z - 2/5/2009 1:12:27 PM
        
        Wouldn't be the first time economic panic was used by a government to take control. - TB - 2/5/2009 5:33:26 PM
- You really need to actually listen to him. - Lee - 2/4/2009 12:17:10 AM
  - You noticed that parallel. They can't see it. (n/t) - TB - 2/4/2009 12:47:36 AM
    - Let's remember this post by you - azstrummer - 2/4/2009 2:04:41 PM
      - Boy, that hit a bit close to home. - Lee - 2/5/2009 12:25:28 AM
      - re: Let's remember - TB - 2/4/2009 5:40:08 PM
        
        Uh....Tom - Lindy - 2/5/2009 4:49:55 AM
        
        The only people who keeps mentioning that myth are on the left. - Lee - 2/5/2009 12:58:15 PM
        
        It's in the red No. 3 (n/t) - SteveS - 2/5/2009 3:26:54 PM
    - He made a joke of it last week. - Lee - 2/4/2009 3:04:03 AM
      - You really should read his website, my only source on him. - Bowser - 2/4/2009 3:21:15 AM
- Rush Limbaugh is the best leader of the Republican obstruction, uh, opposition, that Obama could ever dream of having - z - 2/4/2009 12:10:13 AM

Dems to introduce controversial card check bill â€˜soonâ€™ - SteveS - 2/5/2009 3:48:29 PM

Republican car buying tax breaks need to be tied to improved fuel efficiency in vehicles purchased - E.P. - 2/4/2009 10:07:46 PM
- Barbara Mikulski is a Republican? - Lee - 2/5/2009 12:50:47 PM

Five day rule out the window - TB - 2/5/2009 3:06:49 AM

What do you think would happen to any of us should we not pay $100+K in taxes? - Lee - 2/3/2009 3:22:27 AM
- Geithner, Daschle, Killefer...anyone else see a pattern emerging? - Lee - 2/4/2009 12:13:08 AM
  - Yes, the Obama administration has set very high standards and not everyone can meet them - z - 2/4/2009 2:36:40 PM
    - No, Obama has lowered the standard - SteveS - 2/5/2009 12:56:04 AM
    - Unfortunately the "high standards" seem to be mostly after the fact. - TB - 2/4/2009 6:33:45 PM
- Depends on the $100K. (n/t) - et - 2/3/2009 9:41:14 PM
  - Sort of. - Bowser - 2/4/2009 3:58:36 AM
- IRS Came after DAD for 15 BUCKS!!! - carl - 2/3/2009 6:17:34 PM
  - They should make a movie about a government that came near collapse cause it needed $15. [grin] ;-) (n/t) - Jacob - 2/3/2009 10:11:58 PM
- I think that we would be making federal license plates. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 2/3/2009 8:56:45 AM
- I think that we would be making federal license plates. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 2/3/2009 8:56:39 AM

Poll on the "stimulus" package - TB - 2/4/2009 6:36:46 PM
- All the other polls show much stronger support for the stimulus package - z - 2/4/2009 9:34:36 PM
  - The support goes up as you go back in time. - TB - 2/4/2009 9:58:31 PM

Army is condemned for shelling a hospital, killing civilians and UN personnel. - Jacob - 2/3/2009 10:09:31 PM
- Ain't no Jews to hate in Sri Lanka. Meanwhile, UN admits Gaza "School massacre" was total BS: - FZ - 2/4/2009 3:05:40 PM

"Gearing Up For A Drawdown In Iraq" - Bowser - 2/3/2009 10:25:53 PM

"Don't Mourn for Daschle " - Bowser - 2/3/2009 9:02:56 PM

Bush debt $4,000,000,000,000 (Four Trillion Dollaars) (n/t) - E.P. - 2/3/2009 6:58:43 PM
- re: Bush debt $4,000,000,000,000 (Four Trillion Dollaars) - Jack Herer - 2/3/2009 8:54:57 PM

Exxon Mobil posts record $45.2 billion profit - Lindy - 1/30/2009 2:51:02 PM
- They are one of the few oil exploration companies still around. - REB - 2/3/2009 4:16:34 PM
- Let's Give Exxon Mobil a Bailout to Raise Its Stock Price! Poor guys. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 2/3/2009 8:58:35 AM
- ANY TARP Money for Them????? - carl - 1/30/2009 4:43:24 PM
  - re: $18 billion in bonuses for Wall Street Exec's - Jack Herer - 1/30/2009 9:15:30 PM
    - Idiots - TB - 1/30/2009 11:39:02 PM
      - Sorry Tom - RobVG - 1/31/2009 3:38:17 AM
        
        What does Madoff have to do with Wallstreet bonuses? - Lee - 1/31/2009 3:59:11 PM
        
        "Everyone Else" - RobVG - 1/31/2009 8:58:17 PM
        
        Wallstreet bonuses..."Just don't throw him in with everyone else." - Lindy - 1/31/2009 4:24:13 PM
        
        And one wonders where you get your reading skills from. - Lee - 1/31/2009 6:08:45 PM
        
        You too? I guess it is easier. (n/t) - TB - 1/31/2009 6:33:40 AM
        
        It's definitely not easy. - RobVG - 2/1/2009 12:55:21 AM
        
        re: not easy. - TB - 2/1/2009 4:13:54 AM
        
        gettin' easier... - Jody - 2/1/2009 1:21:27 PM
        
        Personal Best. - Jody - 1/31/2009 2:25:03 PM
        
        More Kipling - TB - 1/31/2009 7:02:16 PM
        
        :) (n/t) - Jody - 1/31/2009 7:22:18 PM
      - They came for the rich...and I did nothing. - Lee - 1/30/2009 11:57:21 PM
        
        They came for the poor - and you cheered them on. They came for the minorities - etc. (n/t) - Bowser - 1/31/2009 2:06:08 AM
        
        From someone who use to be poor. - Lee - 1/31/2009 5:14:05 AM
        
        re: From someone who use to be poor. - Bowser - 1/31/2009 6:12:25 AM
        
        re: From someone who use to be poor. - daveg - 2/2/2009 3:29:28 PM
        
        What does that say about your prejudices against successful people? - Lee - 1/31/2009 3:54:38 PM
  - Exxon Mobil paid about $116 billion in total taxes in 2008. - TB - 1/30/2009 7:09:20 PM

Gaza ceasefire is in effect. - Lee - 1/18/2009 11:48:40 PM
- Medium-range rocket from Gaza hits Israeli city - Lee - 2/3/2009 2:26:41 PM
- Hamas continues to fire rockets into Israel....SAY IT AIN'T SO! - Lee - 2/2/2009 12:38:21 AM
- Well that didn't last long. - Lee - 1/27/2009 6:23:01 PM
- Israel stops attack (n/t) - E.P. - 1/19/2009 4:29:40 PM
  - Now if Hamas could just do the same (n/t) - Buck Galaxy - 1/19/2009 8:24:56 PM
    - Solution remains the same: massive UN deployment to West Bank and Gaza - E.P. - 2/2/2009 4:55:26 PM

New Candidate for Federal Bailout. This company has been severely hurt - David F Mayer - 2/2/2009 3:10:15 AM
- heh... - Jody - 2/2/2009 3:12:01 PM
- Why not? After all, the Democrats are making an offer the taxpayers can't refuse. (n/t) - The Silent Majority - 2/2/2009 3:37:01 AM
  - You noisy conservatives... - Lindy - 2/2/2009 5:09:50 AM
    - "DFM, your suggestion is absurd." No? Really? I would never have guessed that. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 2/2/2009 1:57:37 PM
      - Then why is it on Current Events? - Lindy - 2/2/2009 3:44:57 PM
        
        Because it is a satire on the subject of huge bailouts of questionable companies. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 2/2/2009 5:57:36 PM
        
        Some people don't seem to understand the concept of satire. (n/t) - Lee - 2/3/2009 12:08:13 AM
    - "DFM, your suggestion is absurd. " Wasn't it supposed to be? - RobVG - 2/2/2009 6:12:17 AM
      - They're looking more and more like sore winners every day. (n/t) - TSM - 2/3/2009 9:36:03 AM

Topic two: How Prez Obama is getting too friendly with labor unions.. - Jacob - 1/31/2009 5:52:30 PM
- Standing neck-deep in the world-wide shambles of capitalistic excesses - Bowser\ - 2/1/2009 12:38:27 AM
  - It's not just the rich capitalists who are greedy. - Jacob - 2/1/2009 10:20:17 PM
    - Unions need healthy businesses. And they know it. - Bowser - 2/2/2009 5:09:55 AM
  - Mine isn't a government job. - Lee - 2/1/2009 3:19:21 AM
    - Believe it or not, hard though it may be, an unvarnished truth. - Bowser - 2/1/2009 3:44:16 AM
      - I'm sure you don't. - Lee - 2/1/2009 4:11:50 AM
      - I'm sure you don't. - Lee - 2/1/2009 4:11:48 AM
  - Numbers - TB - 2/1/2009 12:47:19 AM
    - I don't know about that, Tom. - Lee - 2/1/2009 3:26:47 AM
    - Citation, includes RobVGs numbers - Bowser - 2/1/2009 2:46:12 AM
    - Pay under $16/hr, not over. - RobVG - 2/1/2009 1:26:20 AM
      - I see, it's the total combination of the three categories. - TB - 2/1/2009 4:10:29 AM
- SPEEA to advise members to reject Boeing offer. - RobVG - 1/31/2009 8:25:44 PM
- I see you don't work for a living (n/t) - E.P. - 1/31/2009 5:56:55 PM
  - Not now. - Jacob - 1/31/2009 6:17:25 PM

What is this national reconciliation of which you speak? - Lee - 2/2/2009 4:11:39 AM

Topic Three: President Obama must STOP this "protectionist" rhetoric! - Jacob - 1/31/2009 6:14:28 PM
- it is really annoying the rest of the world... - nick hoffman - 2/1/2009 12:41:10 PM
  - re: it is really annoying the rest of the world... - Jacob - 2/1/2009 10:13:52 PM
    - We're (almost) as deep in the doo-doo as you are - Nick Hoffman - 2/2/2009 1:41:25 AM
  - I kon't think you meant to say the US economy is responsible for the rest of the world. - Bowser - 2/1/2009 8:21:51 PM
    - National economies are becomng more and more entwined, Bowser. - Jacob - 2/1/2009 10:33:24 PM
  - Protectionism is a knee-jerk reaction - TB - 2/1/2009 4:58:00 PM
    - I don't see a problem with it. - Lee - 2/1/2009 11:53:37 PM
    - I'm glad you agree. - Jacob - 2/1/2009 10:10:57 PM

Bush's illegal spying targeted non-terrorists and US journalists. - Bowser - 1/30/2009 3:55:34 AM
- Bush is out, gone, history. - The Silent Majority - 1/30/2009 6:15:14 AM
  - Yes, I'm sure you'd rather forget. And have everyone else forget. - Mary Anne - 1/30/2009 5:18:55 PM
    - Time for you to move on, too. (n/t) - TSM - 1/31/2009 1:45:16 PM
      - Thank you for your totally worthless opinion. (n/t) - Mary Anne - 1/31/2009 6:21:49 PM
        
        I said that because I expect better discernment from you than a rabid canine with rudimentary internet skills. - TSM - 2/1/2009 5:15:31 AM
        
        Shouldn't this be on Flame?. - Lindy - 2/2/2009 1:11:19 AM
        
        Well, thank you, I think. - Mary Anne - 2/1/2009 4:56:17 PM
        
        Tell ya what... - TB - 2/1/2009 5:04:05 PM
        
        Taxes vs. waterboarding - Mary Anne - 2/1/2009 5:20:29 PM
        
        re: Taxes vs. waterboarding - TB - 2/1/2009 6:49:23 PM
        
        I find it fascinating that the conservatives don't even want an investigation. - Mary Anne - 2/1/2009 7:12:38 PM
        
        Frankly, I don't care one way or the other. - TB - 2/1/2009 8:03:19 PM
    - Here's his inspiration. "The Bush years are in the past. The future starts now." Rush Limbaugh - Bowser - 1/30/2009 6:27:35 PM
      - Thanks. I don't listen to Mr. Limberger, so his pronouncements always come as something of a surprise. - Mary Anne - 1/30/2009 6:40:17 PM
  - PS - The effects of Bush will be felt for decades. There is no statute on crimes against humanity. - Bowser - 1/30/2009 6:55:38 AM
  - That's like saying a murderer is free after the murder. - Bowser - 1/30/2009 6:53:55 AM
    - You're just proving my point. Sad. (n/t) - TSM - 1/30/2009 8:35:17 AM
      - It's all they've got. (n/t) - TB - 1/30/2009 6:23:36 PM
        
        re: It's all they've got. - Lindy - 1/31/2009 2:44:42 AM

One (Australian) view on the financial mess - nick hoffman - 1/31/2009 2:08:14 AM
- Perestroika. - TB - 1/31/2009 6:41:20 AM
- " Kevin Rudd has declared a new era of financial reregulation and government intervention - - - " - Bowser - 1/31/2009 2:30:33 AM
  - re: liberal capitalism - nick hoffman - 2/1/2009 1:13:13 PM
  - USA Banker's Magazine, August 25 1924 - Lindy - 1/31/2009 3:08:17 AM
    - "Give me control of a nation's money, and I care not who makes the laws." (n/t) - Mayer Amschel Rothschild - 1/31/2009 3:21:53 AM

Our objective media - TB - 1/31/2009 11:10:07 PM

Stealth government growth in "stimulus" bill - TB - 1/31/2009 12:13:59 AM
- re: Stealth government growth in "stimulus" bill - E.P. - 1/31/2009 5:52:10 PM
- Well, if you don't like it, then you shouldn't have collapsed the economy in the first place - E.P. - 1/31/2009 4:40:25 PM
- More analysis - TB - 1/31/2009 6:59:32 AM
  - A detailed analysis of the tax policies in the bill - TB - 1/31/2009 7:04:18 AM
- Millions losing jobs = more millions losing health care. - Bowser - 1/31/2009 4:22:50 AM
- Either provide opportunity or services. A plutocracy doesn't provide opportunity. Ergo - - - - Bowser - 1/31/2009 2:04:55 AM
  - What suggestions do you have besides the Feds for doing anything at all? - TB - 1/31/2009 6:32:19 AM
    - re: What suggestions do you have besides the Feds for doing anything at all? - E.P. - 1/31/2009 5:54:44 PM
    - OK, so what would you do for them? - dtb - 1/31/2009 4:00:26 PM
      - re: OK, so what would you do for them? - TB - 1/31/2009 5:24:16 PM
        
        Individual policies - dtb - 1/31/2009 8:12:15 PM
        
        re: Individual policies - TB - 1/31/2009 10:00:47 PM
    - It's a simple matter of priorities. - Bowser - 1/31/2009 7:29:16 AM

Iraq erects statue memorializing Bush. - Bowser - 1/31/2009 8:08:26 AM
- Al Zaidi voted in prison on Wednesday - TB - 1/31/2009 4:54:06 PM
- re: Iraq erects statue memorializing Bush. - Lindy - 1/31/2009 4:07:35 PM
  - NSA - Flaged contents ;) - brian gyles - 1/31/2009 4:53:25 PM
    - Indeed! Brian! - Jody - 1/31/2009 5:36:17 PM
      - re: Indeed! Brian! - brian gyles - 1/31/2009 6:07:32 PM

Topic One: Obama's crew can't seem to file their taxes properly. - Jacob - 1/31/2009 5:27:05 PM

Limbaugh proposes self as co-President: "My Bipartisan Stimulus" - Bowser - 1/30/2009 3:07:03 PM
- It was a stroke of genius for Obama to tie Limbaugh around the neck of the GOP - z - 1/30/2009 5:48:14 PM
  - I'm not sure I understand. Limbaugh IS the voice of our Conservatives. They are proud of him. - Bowser - 1/30/2009 10:09:21 PM
    - His ratings are a lot higher than MSNBC's. - Lee - 1/30/2009 11:51:38 PM
- Could Limbaugh actually have a grudging respect for Prez Obama? ...It's a miracle! (n/t) - Jacob - 1/30/2009 4:25:53 PM

"Security Around Obama Alarms Some VIP Donors" - Bowser - 1/30/2009 8:26:33 PM

How We 'zoners Coping with the Economy? - carl - 1/27/2009 7:37:32 PM
- Surprisingly, there are opportunities. - Bowser - 1/29/2009 3:02:32 AM
- Using Excell And Scaring Myself Silly (n/t) - brian gyles - 1/29/2009 2:39:03 AM
  - Using Excel scares me silly too. (n/t) - Mary Anne - 1/30/2009 7:39:01 PM
- I'm just trying to figure out how to retire. (n/t) - Eri - 1/28/2009 12:56:06 AM
  - Just go to bed ;) (n/t) - Jody - 1/29/2009 1:32:16 AM
    - re: Just go to bed ;) - Eri - 1/29/2009 5:05:38 AM
- Very nervously - dtb - 1/27/2009 9:07:58 PM
- Watching every penny - RobVG - 1/27/2009 8:29:21 PM
  - Grew up With 2 REFRIGERATORS - carl - 1/27/2009 10:08:21 PM
    - Lettuce sandwiches - RobVG - 1/28/2009 12:25:02 AM
      - Kind of like wish sandwiches. - Lee - 1/28/2009 1:37:24 AM
        
        Soup. - RobVG - 1/28/2009 2:03:51 AM
        
        Thankfully - Lee - 1/29/2009 11:45:23 PM
        
        To hell with the turkey and swiss I say!! - Jody - 1/30/2009 2:01:47 AM
- I have started using coupons again. - Jody - 1/27/2009 7:54:12 PM

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